Deluge Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 On 1/20/2025 at 6:29 PM, robosmith said: Trump Pardons 1500 MAGA CULT GOONS proving Trumpublicans are the Anti Law and Order Party. Trump pardons nearly all Jan. 6 rioters on first day of presidency His own personal army is now loose again and available to keep him in power. 🤮 As said before, these pardons prove that those convicted criminals did EXACTLY what Trump wanted. 🤮 That's right, pervert. So get behind this country and stop pissing Americans off. Quote
User Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I do not believe the rioters would have injured anyone. People standing guard do not have the luxury of presuming good intentions on a violent angry mob bashing their way through a barricade. 11 minutes ago, Nationalist said: At 30 seconds into the clip someone says "He's got a gun". At that point the rioters back off and THEN a shot is heard. No. I do not think shooting an unarmed woman was justified in that instance. She was still climbing through the broken window at that time. Also, you have no way of knowing if someone is armed or not. All you can say is that she did not have any weapons visible. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 (edited) 2 minutes ago, User said: People standing guard do not have the luxury of presuming good intentions on a violent angry mob bashing their way through a barricade. She was still climbing through the broken window at that time. Also, you have no way of knowing if someone is armed or not. All you can say is that she did not have any weapons visible. This is another instance where we 2 are never gonna agree. And as far as I can tell, she was not climbing anywhere at the time. Edited January 22 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: This is another instance where we 2 are never gonna agree. And as far as I can tell, she was not climbing anywhere at the time. Well, we don't have to rely on what you can tell or not, we have it on video. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I do not believe the rioters would have injured anyone. They inflicted multiple injuries on multiple people. Quote At 30 seconds into the clip someone says "He's got a gun". At that point the rioters back off and THEN a shot is heard. No. I do not think shooting an unarmed woman was justified in that instance. Everyone backs off but Babbitt who decides to climb through the window guarded by the man with a gun. RIP bozo, you won't be missed. Face it: if this was a case where a BLM protester was shot by someone for breaking a window, you'd be celebrating because your sympathy towards unarmed victims of state violence extends only to those with whom you share a political ideology. Edited January 22 by Black Dog 1 Quote
Hodad Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 27 minutes ago, Nationalist said: This is another instance where we 2 are never gonna agree. And as far as I can tell, she was not climbing anywhere at the time. Jeebus, man. You can WATCH her climbing through the window on video. He didn't shoot anyone until the mob started coming into the space with the trapped legislators. As legislators from both parties testified, the guy is a hero and likely saved their lives. Quote
robosmith Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 3 hours ago, West said: Many legal experts who you continue to disparage accurately predicted the outcome of the J6 cases at the Supreme Court. Perhaps it is you who are being radicalized and brainwashed to accept radical persecutions of people of differing views? Not perhaps, your amateur legal OPINIONS MEAN NOTHING. 1600 J6 rioters were convicted despite the SCOTUS ruling. AKA, it was inconsequential. LMAO 3 hours ago, West said: The left are clearly using the legal process as punishment even for people whove DONE NOTHING WRONG. Maybe if it were one or 2, but 1600 cases can't be "DONE NOTHING WRONG." Right after it happened, several RepubliCON Congressional leaders spoke out AGAINST what Trump DID. Sorry you MISSED THAT. LMAO 3 hours ago, West said: Cases are inevitably tossed but not until they take away everything from the people who oppose them including jobs, housing, etc. This is EXACTLY WHAT THE NAZIS DID TO ENSURE PEOPLE DID NOT SPEAK UP AS THEY MISTREATED AND ULTIMATELY MURDERED THE JEWS 1600 cases were NOT TOSSED, dummy. Invading the Capitol building to stop the certification of the EC vote is ILLEGAL and always will be. Quote
robosmith Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: None of whom were armed. IMO that cop should be dismissed from duty at the very least. Who told you none of them were armed? Many left the building long before being arrested and that means they had a chance to ditch their guns and could not be prosecuted for them. Several were caught with hand guns ON VIDEO. 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I do not believe the rioters would have injured anyone. At 30 seconds into the clip someone says "He's got a gun". At that point the rioters back off and THEN a shot is heard. No. I do not think shooting an unarmed woman was justified in that instance. You've already said if she (and her mob) were at your front door YOU WOULD SHOOT HER. Quote
West Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 21 minutes ago, robosmith said: Not perhaps, your amateur legal OPINIONS MEAN NOTHING. 1600 J6 rioters were convicted despite the SCOTUS ruling. AKA, it was inconsequential. LMAO Maybe if it were one or 2, but 1600 cases can't be "DONE NOTHING WRONG." Right after it happened, several RepubliCON Congressional leaders spoke out AGAINST what Trump DID. Sorry you MISSED THAT. LMAO 1600 cases were NOT TOSSED, dummy. Invading the Capitol building to stop the certification of the EC vote is ILLEGAL and always will be. You keep saying it's my legal opinion when in fact it's the legal opinion of several high profile respected legal minds in the US. You choose to disparage even though they are right and have accurately predicted everything from the J6 SC ruling to the nonsense of collusion with Russia. I'll trust them over you Quote
robosmith Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 53 minutes ago, Nationalist said: This is another instance where we 2 are never gonna agree. And as far as I can tell, she was not climbing anywhere at the time. She certainly was climbing through the broken window. It's ON VIDEO which has been posted here many times, but I guess FOS LIES never showed that to YOU. LMAO 1 minute ago, West said: You keep saying it's my legal opinion when in fact it's the legal opinion of several high profile respected legal minds in the US. You choose to disparage even though they are right and have accurately predicted everything from the J6 SC ruling to the nonsense of collusion with Russia. I'll trust them over you YOU HAVE POSTED NONE of the EVIDENCE you CLAIM TO HAVE. Do you even know how? LMAO Quote
robosmith Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, godzilla said: That's not the breach of the House chambers. Older videos which showed Babbitt climbing through the window have been supplanted by a video which stays on the cop too long and only catches her FALLING away from the window so quickly that it mainly shows her on the floor. Quote
robosmith Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 Trump Pardons the Jan. 6 Cop Beaters Quote Law and order? Back the blue? What happened to that GOP? Republicans are busy denouncing President Biden’s pre-emptive pardons for his family and political allies, and deservedly so. But then it’s a shame you don’t hear many, if any, ruing President Trump’s proclamation to pardon unconditionally nearly all of the people who rioted at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. This includes those convicted of bludgeoning, chemical spraying, and electroshocking police to try to keep Mr. Trump in power. Now he’s springing them from prison. This is a rotten message from a President about political violence done on his behalf, and it’s a bait and switch. Asked about Jan. 6 pardons in late November, Mr. Trump projected caution. “I’m going to do case-by-case, and if they were nonviolent, I think they’ve been greatly punished,” he said. “We’re going to look at each individual case.” Taking cues from the boss, last week Vice President JD Vance drew a clear line: “If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned.” So much for that. The President’s clemency proclamation commutes prison sentences to time served for 14 named people, including prominent leaders of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, who were organized and ready for violence. Then Mr. Trump tries to wipe Jan. 6 clean, with “a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all other individuals.” The conceit is that there are hundreds of polite Trump supporters who ended up in the wrong place that day and have since rotted in jail. Quote
Legato Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Trump Pardons the Jan. 6 Cop Beaters The conceit is that there are hundreds of polite Trump supporters who ended up in the wrong place that day and have since rotted in jail. Quote
robosmith Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 Just now, Legato said: The conceit is that there are hundreds of polite Trump supporters who ended up in the wrong place that day and have since rotted in jail. VERY FEW non-invaders were sentenced to jail. Exceptions are those WHO PLANNED the invasion. Duh Quote
Legato Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 1 minute ago, robosmith said: VERY FEW non-invaders were sentenced to jail. Exceptions are those WHO PLANNED the invasion. Duh That quote is from the WSJ are you saying the article is false? Quote
Nationalist Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 2 hours ago, User said: People standing guard do not have the luxury of presuming good intentions on a violent angry mob bashing their way through a barricade. She was still climbing through the broken window at that time. Also, you have no way of knowing if someone is armed or not. All you can say is that she did not have any weapons visible. She was not climbing through a windows when she was shot. She was standing. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Black Dog Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: She was not climbing through a windows when she was shot. She was standing. Where was she standing? Quote
Nationalist Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: They inflicted multiple injuries on multiple people. Everyone backs off but Babbitt who decides to climb through the window guarded by the man with a gun. RIP bozo, you won't be missed. Face it: if this was a case where a BLM protester was shot by someone for breaking a window, you'd be celebrating because your sympathy towards unarmed victims of state violence extends only to those with whom you share a political ideology. You have no idea what you're talking about. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Where was she standing? As far as I can tell, in front of the cop. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Black Dog Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 Just now, Nationalist said: As far as I can tell, in front of the cop. How did she get in front of him? 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You have no idea what you're talking about. LOl you're getting clowned on by people on your own side here, bud, maybe take a knee. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, Black Dog said: How did she get in front of him? LOl you're getting clowned on by people on your own side here, bud, maybe take a knee. Examining the clip, the shot came from the other side of the window. These are not the same videos I saw back then. However, I still contend the cop had no right to open fire. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Legato said: That quote is from the WSJ are you saying the article is false? You didn't even double quote it, NOR cite a link. Quote
robosmith Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Legato said: That quote is from the WSJ are you saying the article is false? I would say they were talking about Trump's conceit and HE WAS LYING. Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: She was not climbing through a windows when she was shot. She was standing. Why do you lie? I mean, really, why? It is on video. You can see her shot and falling back out of the window she was crawling through. 2 Quote
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