Whos really to blame for the LA wildfire? Donnie or Gavin Newscum who diverts water from its natural path into the ocean and refuses to do any sort of wildfire/forestry management because of faulty woke ideology?

[User]

Just now, impartialobserver said:

Lets stop here... we are not talking about the same thing. I do not like playing dumb games either and can realize that we are not even close to being on the same page. 

Yeah, you have made your argument twice now like this. Go back to the other page. 

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

$1.7m That could have gone into actual firefighting instead of a DEI agenda.

where did you get the 1.7 million number? 

1 minute ago, User said:

Yeah, you have made your argument twice now like this. Go back to the other page. 

We are not even close to talking about the same thing... how about you drop it?  Or do you need to beat the dead horse. 

[Legato]

Just now, impartialobserver said:

where did you get the 1.7 million number? 

goggle

[User]

2 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

We are not even close to talking about the same thing... how about you drop it?  Or do you need to beat the dead horse. 

No, you made this same dumb argument:

 

I will beat the dead horse as much as you keep saying you need evidence and ignore what I say. 

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

goggle

Well.. and with this, I conclude that you have no idea what I am talking about. I am talking about quantifiable job performance. Feel free to carry on. Someone has to care that you breathe. 

[User]

3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

where did you get the 1.7 million number? 

Are you for real? Enough of your dumb games. 

 

[impartialobserver]

Just now, User said:

No, you made this same dumb argument:

 

I will beat the dead horse as much as you keep saying you need evidence and ignore what I say. 

So then lets have you provide QUANTITATIVE metrics concerning JOB PERFORMANCE. The assumption is that these DEI hires (which you have no direct evidence of) performed worse than their previous counterparts. 

[User]

2 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

So then lets have you provide QUANTITATIVE metrics concerning JOB PERFORMANCE. The assumption is that these DEI hires (which you have no direct evidence of) performed worse than their previous counterparts. 

This argument was not about job performance. Stop creating straw men to argue against. 

 

[impartialobserver]

Just now, User said:

This argument was not about job performance. Stop creating straw men to argue against. 

 

So then lets have you provide QUANTITATIVE metrics concerning JOB PERFORMANCE. The assumption is that these DEI hires (which you have no direct evidence of) performed worse than their previous counterparts. 

That is my point... take it or leave it. Can you provide such information or not? Seems pretty simple. 

[godzilla]

5 minutes ago, User said:

This argument was not about job performance. Stop creating straw men to argue against. 

 

so job performance could have been enhanced? so that money was a good investment?

so if you have a work environment that traditionally only hires white men... then there is no way that DEI could improve performance by increasing the available work pool?

thats what you're saying?

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[User]

4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

So then lets have you provide QUANTITATIVE metrics concerning JOB PERFORMANCE. The assumption is that these DEI hires (which you have no direct evidence of) performed worse than their previous counterparts. 

That is my point... take it or leave it. Can you provide such information or not? Seems pretty simple. 

Again... the argument you demanded evidence for was not regarding job performance. I linked you to it. 

Stop with the dumb games. 

[impartialobserver]

3 minutes ago, godzilla said:

so job performance could have been enhanced? so that money was a good investment?

so if you have a work environment that traditionally only hires men... then there is no way that hiring women could improve performance by increasing the available work pool?

thats what you're saying?

Depending on one's source, they will say that there are four fire battalions in LA and supposedly all are ran by lesbians. That is easily debunked. There are 22 in Los Angeles county. 

1 minute ago, User said:

Again... the argument you demanded evidence for was not regarding job performance. I linked you to it. 

Stop with the dumb games. 

So then lets have you provide QUANTITATIVE metrics concerning JOB PERFORMANCE. The assumption is that these DEI hires (which you have no direct evidence of) performed worse than their previous counterparts. 

That is my point... take it or leave it. Can you provide such information or not? Seems pretty simple. 

[Deluge]

23 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Your zealousness takes you off the rails. First, LA is an urban environment so in this case you are talking apples to oranges. You have a point when it comes to the area in the central and northern parts of the state that are not urban. 

As for water diversion.. that is irrelevant. Their infrastructure was not ready. The reservoirs in their watersheds were doing fine as compared to years past. Had they been ready.. they could have had the necessary 12 to 13 million gallons ready. 

Now you're just babbling. The proof is in the policy and LA is swimming in it - that woman checks every f*cking box. 

Wrong. The LEADERS were not ready, and they weren't ready because of DEI. 

[godzilla]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

Depending on one's source, they will say that there are four fire battalions in LA and supposedly all are ran by lesbians. That is easily debunked. There are 22 in Los Angeles county. 

super fun. :[

Newsmax host hysterically rages that California wildfires are ‘death by DEI’

"The MAGA host went on to compare the apocalyptic situation in Los Angeles to the recent terror attack in New Orleans, noting that there was one common element at play: women were in charge of the response."

[User]

6 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

So then lets have you provide QUANTITATIVE metrics concerning JOB PERFORMANCE. The assumption is that these DEI hires (which you have no direct evidence of) performed worse than their previous counterparts. 

That is my point... take it or leave it. Can you provide such information or not? Seems pretty simple. 

This argument you demanded evidence for was not concerning job performance. 

That is my point. Stop playing your dumb games. Seems pretty simple. 

[godzilla]

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

The proof is in the policy...

except you don't know much about logical proof.

[User]

13 minutes ago, godzilla said:

so job performance could have been enhanced? so that money was a good investment?

so if you have a work environment that traditionally only hires white men... then there is no way that DEI could improve performance by increasing the available work pool?

thats what you're saying?

No, my argument is that they clearly prioritized hiring people based on diversity instead of qualifications. 

When was the last time the LA FD only hired white men?

The LA FD was having a problem with recruiting people so they had to enact DEI to get more?

 

 

[godzilla]

15 minutes ago, User said:

No, my argument is that they clearly prioritized hiring people based on diversity instead of qualifications.

"clearly"? feel free to cite your studies. otherwise its just pontification.

and actually its kind of disgusting to be honest.

unprecedented fire conditions. severe drought, wind and heat. millions of people living in the steep Hollywood hills where the tops of all of these hills are covered in fire material. its a bomb ready to go off.

a state that is under severe pressure to repress taxation because the millionaires who made their money from the largest economy in the US are able to just pick up and move to Texas.

and you blame the fire department.

all if this i can cite. let me know if you need it.

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[User]

5 minutes ago, godzilla said:

"clearly"? feel free to cite your studies. otherwise its just pontification.

I already provided the executive order. Catch up. 

[impartialobserver]

24 minutes ago, User said:

This argument you demanded evidence for was not concerning job performance. 

That is my point. Stop playing your dumb games. Seems pretty simple. 

So then lets have you provide QUANTITATIVE metrics concerning JOB PERFORMANCE. The assumption is that these DEI hires (which you have no direct evidence of) performed worse than their previous counterparts. 

That is my point... take it or leave it. Can you provide such information or not? Seems pretty simple. 

[User]

Just now, impartialobserver said:

So then lets have you provide QUANTITATIVE metrics concerning JOB PERFORMANCE. The assumption is that these DEI hires (which you have no direct evidence of) performed worse than their previous counterparts. 

That is my point... take it or leave it. Can you provide such information or not? Seems pretty simple. 

This argument you demanded evidence for was not concerning job performance. 

That is my point. Stop playing your dumb games. Seems pretty simple. 

[godzilla]

20 minutes ago, User said:

I already provided the executive order. Catch up. 

is an "executive order" a study of outcomes of public policy?

i'll answer for you. no.

but you're always going to suffer from the stress of cognitive dissonance when you are attempting to rationalize a political ideology, ideologies being fabricated belief systems. its particularly ironic that people who are so politically ideological attempt to use T Schemas to rationalize fabricated belief systems. talk about an uphill battle!

"an ideology is like a failed religion" - Jordan Peterson

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[Venandi]

56 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I do not like playing dumb games either and can realize that we are not even close to being on the same page. 

Thank you, my sentiments exactly... makes perfect sense no matter who is pre chewing cat food for Herb.

Sometimes, if you ride the land, look at a map, consider the prevailing winds and pretend you're a hungry forrest fire it all becomes clear.

If you fear fire, understand what fire eats... then remove its source of food.  

Write that one down Herb... I just made it up, sounds like an African proverb eh? 

 

Edited January 10 by Venandi

[User]

10 minutes ago, godzilla said:

is an "executive order" a study of outcomes of public policy?

i'll answer for you. no.

So, not only did they waste money, time, and resources on this... now you think it was a complete failure. 

 

[Nationalist]

OK...

Who's really to "blame" for the wild fires? If arson is found to be the cause...then it would be the arsonist. Is Greaceball Gavin to blame for the fires? Not unless he started the fires. Is that Tweenkie Bass responsible? She was out of town so...no. Should their policies be reviewed and perhaps adjusted? Fckin' eh, they should.

The blame for this inferno has to go to whoever started the fire and the wind.