robosmith Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 40 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Democrat plantation aristocracy traitors to the republic should all be hung from the nearest tree said Abraham Lincoln, Patron Saint of the Republic extra judicial supra constitutional Emancipation Proclamation FTW from Appomattox Court House to the Sea of Tranquility on the Moon Like all of the MAGA CULT, you are stranded in a fantasy invented before anyone alive today was born, denying all the progress and Constitutional amendments which ensued. Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 12 minutes ago, West said: Climate change or jackasses lighting fires and poor forest management, I'll take the jackasses lighting fires with poor forest management And you'll be wronger than ever before. It's all unprecedented EXTREME DROUGHT combined with EXTREME WINDS. Every year in the last 30 I've lived here, we've ALWAYS had AT LEAST ONE large rain storm in November. Until this year. That is the EXTREME weather caused by drying from EXTREME HEAT of climate change. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 Looks like Fort McMurray circa 2016. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 44 minutes ago, West said: Climate change or jackasses lighting fires and poor forest management, I'll take the jackasses lighting fires with poor forest management That explains why so many fires started in Canada 2 years ago, in the middle of nowhere, in places like Northwest territories. Definitely arsonists....🤣 1 Quote
Venandi Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, robosmith said: And you'll be wronger than ever before. It's all unprecedented EXTREME DROUGHT combined with EXTREME WINDS. Every year in the last 30 I've lived here, we've ALWAYS had AT LEAST ONE large rain storm in November. Until this year. That is the EXTREME weather caused by drying from EXTREME HEAT of climate change. If I were of that mindset, I'd be concerned about what my state was capable of doing (on the world stage) to offset the warming trend that was causing the fires. I'd probably acknowledge that it was limited at best and the trend toward dry conditions was likely to continue in the future. After acknowledging that as reality, I'd be looking at ways to mitigating the threat in every way possible. Wouldn't you? Isn't that what any sensible person with your mindset would be advocating for? If you didn't see that happening wouldn't you (logically) be outraged about the lack of preparation? So... if observed, constantly repeating reality suggests that the effects of global warming are real, that your ability to effect global solutions are limited, that the Santa Anna winds come every year, and that you're living in a brush pile of your own making wouldn't you do everything you could? Wouldn't you be making forestry management and fire suppression absolute priorities? Wouldn't you act on those priorities? This is the part I don't understand. The time and effort it takes to scream "MAGA HYINA" until you're hoarse might be better spent on managing / mitigating the threat IMO. Chanting "down, down, Santa Anna... down, down wind, isn't the approach I would be taking if I were a true believer. It wouldn't be the approach I'd take if I wasn't a true believer either. I get the fact that you're frustrated and you want the cause to be properly identified. Problem is, the Goddess of Reality doesn't care what you want, she has an agenda and narrative of her own... sound familiar? She see's a brush pile and knows that predictable winds and dry conditions bring predictable opportunities for her. She has a book of matches and she's confident you will be no more prepared to deal with her this year than you were last year. She knows that her success depends on it and every year she's pleased (pleasantly surprised even) that you don't get it. And every year she resolves to repeat the lesson until you do. Edited January 9 by Venandi Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 It's disgusting how the left celebrates tragedy. They celebrated NC getting hit by a hurricane because it might help Kamala. They celebrated the CEO being shot even though his children lost their dad. Now they celebrate a guy losing his home just because he's not on their side. Liberals are truly awful people. 3 1 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Hodad Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 27 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: It's disgusting how the left celebrates tragedy. They celebrated NC getting hit by a hurricane because it might help Kamala. They celebrated the CEO being shot even though his children lost their dad. Now they celebrate a guy losing his home just because he's not on their side. Liberals are truly awful people. Go fark yourself. A. There are outliers, but this is obviously untrue at scale. B. Conservative America rejoices in the misery of others as a damn platform position. Edited January 9 by Hodad Quote
West Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 28 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: It's disgusting how the left celebrates tragedy. They celebrated NC getting hit by a hurricane because it might help Kamala. They celebrated the CEO being shot even though his children lost their dad. Now they celebrate a guy losing his home just because he's not on their side. Liberals are truly awful people. Cult mindset Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Hodad said: Go fark yourself. A. There are outliers, but this is obviously untrue at scale. B. Conservative America rejoices in the misery of others as a damn platform position. The truth hurt you, didn't it? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
West Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 7 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: That explains why so many fires started in Canada 2 years ago, in the middle of nowhere, in places like Northwest territories. Definitely arsonists....🤣 Fires are natural and tend to be cyclical. They are healthy for the environment as it returns nutrients to the soil and burns up the fallen leaves, dead wood, etc. What you don't want is it taking out cities which can be avoided through proper forestry maintenance and fire preparedness. If democrats would stop blowing money on DEI related nonsense perhaps this tragedy could be avoided Quote
User Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 45 minutes ago, Hodad said: Go fark yourself. A. There are outliers, but this is obviously untrue at scale. B. Conservative America rejoices in the misery of others as a damn platform position. What an dumb position as this thread was created, mocking and rejoicing in the misery of someone losing their home. Keeping hiding from me coward. Quote
Venandi Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 19 minutes ago, West said: Fires are natural and tend to be cyclical. Except for fires that might start as the result of burning churches to the ground. These prescribed burns are generally celebrated as understandable, they're not investigated in a purposeful manner, are easily forgiven, and are the only source of carbon emissions not associated with global warming. Edited January 9 by Venandi 1 Quote
User Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 Climate change, does not cause these events, it only marginally impacts their severity. Fires like these, the droughts, were not caused by climate change, they are MARGINALLY more significant because of it. You know what directly impacts these events? Not funding the fire department. Not allowing water in reservoirs. Caring more about DEI training... 1 Quote
Hodad Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 40 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: The truth hurt you, didn't it? Aren't you late to a "God Hates Fags" aids funeral protest? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Liberals are truly awful people. So your response is: 1 hour ago, Hodad said: Go fark yourself. And: 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: Aren't you late to a "God Hates Fags" aids funeral protest? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, you helped me prove my point? 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Venandi Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Hodad said: Aren't you late to a "God Hates Fags" aids funeral protest? This is why you and yours spin your wheels and get no where. Where are the liberal minded folk who embrace the reality of their situation? One would hope they could put their minds together and come up with a few worthwhile ideas... but no. Why does something like establishing regional aviation tanker bases with a 30 min alert status, 24 hrs a day during the fire season never come up... you know damn well it's coming right?. They would respond almost immediately to hot spot datums established by either drones, a geostationary satellite or combination of the two. Mutual support between regions would be coordinated by a central operations centre who had tasking authority over all regions. I'm not saying there isn't a version of that in place now, only that it doesn't seem to be as effective as it could be. Imagine having the ability to launch all tanker assets within 30 minutes and on station time simply being a function of transit distance. The battle space (so to speak) would be coordinated by a bird dog that launches independently on all calls, it locates the datum prior to tanker arrival and acts as "scene of action commander" (SAC) for all tasked assets. The idea is find it early, get there early, and kill it early... false alarms are welcome, they exercise the system, they provide feedback, identify potential fail points and result in making the entire system incrementally better with each and every response. Is that being done now... well, I don't know, doesn't seem like it. But my point is... have you ever heard a single political conversation that included rational ideas? And why is that, it's not that hard... even as dumb as I am I can do this sh^% all day and according to Herb, I'm a nothing more than a hyena. Edited January 9 by Venandi Quote
West Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, User said: Climate change, does not cause these events, it only marginally impacts their severity. Fires like these, the droughts, were not caused by climate change, they are MARGINALLY more significant because of it. You know what directly impacts these events? Not funding the fire department. Not allowing water in reservoirs. Caring more about DEI training... I find the liberal mindset is one of philosophy/ideology. When you ask them to get concrete on solving issues they are unable to do so. The fire coordinator apparently said their priority is diversity, equity and inclusion. If you know anything about incidence command systems, what they are signaling through the use of this type of language is that this is where they are going to allocate their resources. Priority = resource allocation. Not to fire and disaster mitigation such as ensuring the reservoirs could match a significant fire like this one, but to make sure that they have enough people who chop their genitalia off in their work force, they focus their energy and days work on putting a float in the pride parade, etc. Crazy. Edited January 9 by West 2 Quote
Hodad Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: So your response is: And: Do you think that maybe, just maybe, you helped me prove my point? Not at all. You made a hateful blanket attack against all "liberals" based on the attitudes of a few, while pretending that "your side" doesn't do the exact same things at scale. So really, go fark yourself. 54 minutes ago, Venandi said: This is why you and yours spin your wheels and get no where. Where are the liberal minded folk who embrace the reality of their situation? One would hope they could put their minds together and come up with a few worthwhile ideas... but no. Why does something like establishing regional aviation tanker bases with a 30 min alert status, 24 hrs a day during the fire season never come up... you know damn well it's coming right?. They would respond almost immediately to hot spot datums established by either drones, a geostationary satellite or combination of the two. Mutual support between regions would be coordinated by a central operations centre who had tasking authority over all regions. I'm not saying there isn't a version of that in place now, only that it doesn't seem to be as effective as it could be. Imagine having the ability to launch all tanker assets within 30 minutes and on station time simply being a function of transit distance. The battle space (so to speak) would be coordinated by a bird dog that launches independently on all calls, it locates the datum prior to tanker arrival and acts as "scene of action commander" (SAC) for all tasked assets. The idea is find it early, get there early, and kill it early... false alarms are welcome, they exercise the system, they provide feedback, identify potential fail points and result in making the entire system incrementally better with each and every response. Is that being done now... well, I don't know, doesn't seem like it. But my point is... have you ever heard a single political conversation that included rational ideas? And why is that, it's not that hard... even as dumb as I am I can do this sh^% all day and according to Herb, I'm a nothing more than a hyena. Thanks for the reply completely unrelated to the "conversation" we were having. 👍 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 California has always had wildfires. With the seasonal dry season starting in the fall and the Santa Ana winds coming every winter, the wildfire threat is a when, not an if. The only thing that can be done is to mitigate the threat. You do that by limiting urban sprawl, cleaning and pruning brush near home and making sure there is enough water to fight fires. It can also be limited with fire resistant roofing materials and external fire sprinklers. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Deluge Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 19 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Should I feel bad for laughing? It has nothing to do with climate change. It has everything to do with dipshits; dipshits like Gavin Nuisance and that ldiot mayor in Los Angeles. It also has to do with environuts. Should you feel bad for laughing? Yes, you should. Even though California's leaders are lunatics, there are still good and decent people living there whose lives have been ruined by complete negligence. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 A fire starts in the LA area. The winds come up and blow the fire all over the place. LA...having a lack of water due to really stupid decisions concerning their water supply and unable to effect the spread of the fire due to the high winds, sit and watch entire neighbourhoods go up in flames. Greenies howl, "CLIMATE CHANGE, CLIMATE CHANGE! AAAHHH! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!" and proceed to express little to no sympathy for the victims because, "WE TOLD YOU SO!" Now...aside from the a55holish mentality, it is impossible to link this fire to Climate Change. But they try with their usual smug attitude which...BTW...is one of the reasons they lost the last presidential election. The stupidity of it all is the stuff of a comedic tragedy. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hodad said: Go fark yourself. A. There are outliers, but this is obviously untrue at scale. B. Conservative America rejoices in the misery of others as a damn platform position. You're high. We celebrate wins over a$$holes. We don't celebrate the misfortunes of others. Still, one can't help but wonder if this is a sort of modern day Sodom & Gomorrah. Maybe it's just a natural result of stupidity on leadership's part. California certainly has plenty of that. Edited January 9 by Deluge Quote
Nationalist Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Deluge said: You're high. We celebrate wins over a$$holes. We don't celebrate the misfortunes of others. Still, one can't help but wonder if this is a sort of modern day Sodom & Gomorrah. Maybe it's just a natural result of stupidity on leadership's part. It certainly does lend itself to biblical type acts of Gawd. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 37 minutes ago, Hodad said: Not at all. You made a hateful blanket attack against all "liberals" based on the attitudes of a few, while pretending that "your side" doesn't do the exact same things at scale. So really, go fark yourself. Thanks for the reply completely unrelated to the "conversation" we were having. 👍 I made an observation. Nothing hate filled about it. Facts are facts. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 6 hours ago, Venandi said: If I were of that mindset, I'd be concerned about what my state was capable of doing (on the world stage) to offset the warming trend that was causing the fires. I'd probably acknowledge that it was limited at best and the trend toward dry conditions was likely to continue in the future. After acknowledging that as reality, I'd be looking at ways to mitigating the threat in every way possible. Wouldn't you? Isn't that what any sensible person with your mindset would be advocating for? If you didn't see that happening wouldn't you (logically) be outraged about the lack of preparation? So... if observed, constantly repeating reality suggests that the effects of global warming are real, that your ability to effect global solutions are limited, that the Santa Anna winds come every year, and that you're living in a brush pile of your own making wouldn't you do everything you could? Wouldn't you be making forestry management and fire suppression absolute priorities? Wouldn't you act on those priorities? This is the part I don't understand. The time and effort it takes to scream "MAGA HYINA" until you're hoarse might be better spent on managing / mitigating the threat IMO. Chanting "down, down, Santa Anna... down, down wind, isn't the approach I would be taking if I were a true believer. It wouldn't be the approach I'd take if I wasn't a true believer either. I get the fact that you're frustrated and you want the cause to be properly identified. Problem is, the Goddess of Reality doesn't care what you want, she has an agenda and narrative of her own... sound familiar? She see's a brush pile and knows that predictable winds and dry conditions bring predictable opportunities for her. She has a book of matches and she's confident you will be no more prepared to deal with her this year than you were last year. She knows that her success depends on it and every year she's pleased (pleasantly surprised even) that you don't get it. And every year she resolves to repeat the lesson until you do. Just because YOU IMAGINE that reality is a "Goddess" beyond man's control doesn't make it true. Climate change is CAUSED by MAN, and man can fix it; but not by IMAGINING it's beyond his control like ^"MAGA HYINA" does. Personally I would start installing irrigation in heavily wooded areas in the cities, so it doesn't get so dry until the CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere can be reduced to natural levels. Edited January 9 by robosmith Quote
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