herbie Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) How's this? We may consider being States #51 to #60 with 20 senators and 3 for the Territories as the House is limited to 435 distributed by population, turn over 44 of them to us California about the same size so 54 electoral college votes, we'll vote in 1 block Plus guaranteed access to abortion paid for by YOUR tax dollars Services and labelling in French & English Concealed weapons become a felony, federally mandated licensing, training & gun registration Universal Health Care Full recognition of all negotiated Land Claims, rights and future obligations owed by 'The Crown' and enjoy the $1.20 a gallon carbon tax on gasoline.You can drop the communist practice of rebates if you like. The 20,000,000 votes against Trump would've also come in handy. That's called negotiation. Might earn you a couple more supporters. Edited January 9 by herbie Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, herbie said: How's this? We may consider being States #51 to #60 with 20 senators and 3 for the Territories as the House is limited to 435 distributed by population, turn over 44 of them to us California about the same size so 54 electoral college votes, we'll vote in 1 block Plus guaranteed access to abortion paid for by YOUR tax dollars Services and labelling in French & English Concealed weapons become a felony, federally mandated licensing, training & gun registration Universal Health Care Full recognition of all negotiated Land Claims, rights and future obligations owed by 'The Crown' and enjoy the $1.20 a gallon carbon tax on gasoline.You can drop the communist practice of rebates if you like. The 20,000,000 votes against Trump would've also come in handy. That's called negotiation. Might earn you a couple more supporters. I'd rather just absorb the Western States, once they break off from the Union. We can use California, Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii. 1 Quote
herbie Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 Well their offer of one f*cking state that's bigger than the whole USA is a real "Trump/Musk negotiation", right? Take the penny or you're fired! Or maybe we should reopen talks with Denmark about a political association. Get our foot in the door of the EU trade, and split the tolls on any ship entering the Strait between Baffin & Greenland. Turn Hans Island into a joint fortress. 2 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 16 hours ago, herbie said: Well their offer of one f*cking state that's bigger than the whole USA is a real "Trump/Musk negotiation", right? Take the penny or you're fired! Or maybe we should reopen talks with Denmark about a political association. Get our foot in the door of the EU trade, and split the tolls on any ship entering the Strait between Baffin & Greenland. Turn Hans Island into a joint fortress. I never thought of that. I would love to see Canada as part of the EU. With the logistics, is it possible? Quote
herbie Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: I never thought of that. I would love to see Canada as part of the EU. With the logistics, is it possible? We should've had a complete Free Trade Agreement with the EU a decade ago. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 minute ago, herbie said: We should've had a complete Free Trade Agreement with the EU a decade ago. I have a feeling it will not be long until the EU offers us an agreement to circumvent the Fourth Reich to the South of us. Whether we accept, will depend on who wins the election. Quote
herbie Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 I have this feeling that if the Fat Fuhrer keeps this shit up, the other members of NATO may boot the US out of NATO as they're redundant and can come back when they grow up. Russia's proven its threat inept and US only offers overkill as a counter. If the Fanta Fascist offers Putin his Sudetenland in Ukraine in a peace deal that would seal it. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 2 hours ago, herbie said: We should've had a complete Free Trade Agreement with the EU a decade ago. We did. Harper was 3/4 of the way through negotiating it and it was going well if not difficult and they were right at the end when justin took over. Unfortunately Freeland completely bought the deal and while we did sign something it did not take into account the EU propensity for excessive regulation which attempts to filter out foreign products and we didn't get an exemption for our products. The end result was that they started selling us more and we really didn't sell them anything that we weren't already selling them. Quote
Aristides Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Jean Chretien's 91's birthday message Quote oday is my 91st birthday. It’s an opportunity to celebrate with family and friends. To look back on the life I’ve had the privilege to lead. And to reflect on how much this country we all love so much has grown and changed over the course of the nine decades I’ve been on this Earth. This year, I’ve also decided to give myself a birthday present. I’m going to do something in this article that I don’t do very often anymore, and sound off on a big issue affecting the state of the nation and profoundly bothering me and so many other Canadians: The totally unacceptable insults and unprecedented threats to our very sovereignty from U.S. president-elect Donald Trump. I have two very clear and simple messages. To Donald Trump, from one old guy to another: Give your head a shake! What could make you think that Canadians would ever give up the best country in the world – and make no mistake, that is what we are – to join the United States? I can tell you Canadians prize our independence. We love our country. We have built something here that is the envy of the world – when it comes to compassion, understanding, tolerance and finding a way for people of different backgrounds and faiths to live together in harmony. We’ve also built a strong social safety net – especially with public health care – that we are very proud of. It’s not perfect, but it’s based on the principle that the most vulnerable among us should be protected. This may not be the “American Way” or “the Trump Way.” But it is the reality I have witnessed and lived my whole long life. If you think that threatening and insulting us is going to win us over, you really don’t know a thing about us. You don’t know that when it came to fighting in two world wars for freedom, we signed up – both times – years before your country did. We fought and we sacrificed well beyond our numbers. We also had the guts to say no to your country when it tried to drag us into a completely unjustified and destabilizing war in Iraq. We built a nation across the most rugged, challenging geography imaginable. And we did it against the odds. We may look easy-going. Mild-mannered. But make no mistake, we have spine and toughness. And that leads me to my second message, to all our leaders, federal and provincial, as well as those who are aspiring to lead our country: Start showing that spine and toughness. That’s what Canadians want to see – what they need to see. It’s called leadership. You need to lead. Canadians are ready to follow. I know the spirit is there. Ever since Mr. Trump’s attacks, every political party is speaking out in favour of Canada. In fact, it is to my great satisfaction that even the Bloc Québécois is defending Canada. But you don’t win a hockey game by only playing defence. We all know that even when we satisfy one demand, Mr. Trump will come back with another, bigger demand. That’s not diplomacy; it’s blackmail. We need another approach – one that will break this cycle. Mr. Trump has accomplished one thing: He has unified Canadians more than we have been ever before! All leaders across our country have united in resolve to defend Canadian interests. When I came into office as prime minister, Canada faced a national unity crisis. The threat of Quebec separation was very real. We took action to deal with this existential threat in a manner that made Canadians, including Quebeckers, stronger, more united and even prouder of Canadian values. Now there is another existential threat. And we once again need to reduce our vulnerability. That is the challenge for this generation of political leaders. And you won’t accomplish it by using the same old approaches. Just like we did 30 years ago, we need a Plan B for 2025. Yes, telling the Americans we are their best friends and closest trading partner is good. So is lobbying hard in Washington and the state capitals, pointing out that tariffs will hurt the American economy too. So are retaliatory tariffs – when you are attacked, you have to defend yourself. But we also have to play offence. Let’s tell Mr. Trump that we too have border issues with the United States. Canada has tough gun control legislation, but illegal guns are pouring in from the U.S. We need to tell him that we expect the United States to act to reduce the number of guns crossing into Canada. We also want to protect the Arctic. But the United States refuses to recognize the Northwest Passage, insisting that it is an international waterway, even though it flows through the Canadian Arctic as Canadian waters. We need the United States to recognize the Northwest Passage as being Canadian waters. We also need to reduce Canada’s vulnerability in the first place. We need to be stronger. There are more trade barriers between provinces than between Canada and the United States. Let’s launch a national project to get rid of those barriers! And let’s strengthen the ties that bind this vast nation together through projects such as real national energy grid. We also have to understand that Mr. Trump isn’t just threatening us; he’s also targeting a growing list of other countries, as well as the European Union itself, and he is just getting started. Canada should quickly convene a meeting of the leaders of Denmark, Panama, Mexico, as well as with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, to formulate a plan for fighting back these threats. Every time that Mr. Trump opens his mouth, he creates new allies for all of us. So let’s get organized! To fight back against a big, powerful bully, you need strength in numbers. The whole point is not to wait in dread for Donald Trump’s next blow. It’s to build a country and an international community that can withstand those blows. Canadians know me. They know I am an optimist. That I am practical. And that I always speak my mind. I made my share of mistakes over a long career, but I never for a moment doubted the decency of my fellow Canadians – or of my political opponents. The current and future generations of political leaders should remember they are not each other’s enemies – they are opponents. Nobody ever loved the cut-and-thrust of politics more than me, but I always understood that each of us was trying to make a positive contribution to make our community or country a better place. That spirit is more important now than ever, as we address this new challenge. Our leaders should keep that in mind. I am 91 today and blessed with good health. I am ready at the ramparts to help defend the independence of our country as I have done all my life. Vive le Canada! Quote Every time that Mr. Trump opens his mouth, he creates new allies for all of us. 2 Quote
Aristides Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 (edited) On 1/7/2025 at 2:28 PM, Legato said: Doesn't anyone think it would be prudent to give the reason why Trump threatened tariffs. We have a free trade deal that he negotiated. Guess he must be a shitty negotiator. The reason you have such a big trade deficit is because of the amount of energy you buy from us. It is by far our largest export to the US. Are you telling us you don't need it? He doesn't need our dairy? Fine, because we import far more from the US than we export to the US so we can just transfer that quota to the EU, the UK and New Zealand. Who needs you. Edited January 12 by Aristides Quote
herbie Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Throttle that Orange Arsehole with your bare hands, Jean! 1 1 Quote
herbie Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Doesn't anyone think it would be prudent to give the reason why Trump threatened tariffs? Because he moronically confuses a trade deficit with a subsidy and lies that ir's 4X higher to make it sound worse. That's why. Just like he confuses a military alliance with an exclusive paid entry Country Club. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 24 minutes ago, herbie said: Doesn't anyone think it would be prudent to give the reason why Trump threatened tariffs? Because he moronically confuses a trade deficit with a subsidy and lies that ir's 4X higher to make it sound worse. That's why. Just like he confuses a military alliance with an exclusive paid entry Country Club. He doesn't confuse anything with anything. Read his book, the art of the deal. What he's doing right now is absolutely textbook for him. He creates a great deal of confusion, he gets people out of their pre-planned strategies, he sows kaos And confusion and it puts him in a much better bargaining position for what he really wants. This is how he thinks, this is how he works, this is trump. Quote
herbie Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 57 minutes ago, CdnFox said: What he's doing right now is DISTRACTING Hi dimwit supporters already forgot about lowering food costs housing affordability homelessness EVEN deporting 11 million illegals 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 3 hours ago, Aristides said: Jean Chretien's 91's birthday message He was the greatest Prime Minister in my lifetime. Standing up to the US, and not sending troops to Iraq made me proud to be Canadian. 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Read his book, the art of the deal. What he's doing right now is absolutely textbook for him. He creates a great deal of confusion, he gets people out of their pre-planned strategies, he sows kaos And confusion and it puts him in a much better bargaining position for what he really wants. This is how he thinks, this is how he works, this is trump. hence the problem. Trump is a failed businessman, who relied on Daddy's money to bail him out. He has gone through bankruptcies more than mistresses. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 1 hour ago, herbie said: DISTRACTING Hi dimwit supporters already forgot about lowering food costs housing affordability homelessness EVEN deporting 11 million illegals Ummm.... he isn't in power yet. Nobody expected him to even start that stuff. There would be no point or need in distracting from those yet. It would be like PP 'distracting' people away from the carbon tax. Sigh. Your hatred bigotry and inability to marry your delusions with reality really strain those last few remaining braincells of yours don't they. Quote
herbie Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Not even if office yet... So no point talking about lebensraum instead of how to keep your election promises, eh? Quote
CdnFox Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 1 hour ago, herbie said: Not even if office yet... So no point talking about lebensraum instead of how to keep your election promises, eh? Certainly too early to talk about how he's broken his promises before he even starts Quote
Aristides Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 Time to start putting Canadian flags on our backpacks and luggage again and wear tee shirts that say, I am not an American. I'm in Mexico now and the Trump is despised here. The first thing the cab driver from the airport said after he asked where we were from was, "what do you think of Trump". 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 I've yet to see so much as a single MAGA hat amongst the thousands and thousands of visitors that visit my region...tens of thousands per day during the summer. I doubt there's even a single one to be found adorning the head of our forum's Trump supporters. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
NAME REMOVED Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 On 1/25/2025 at 8:12 AM, Aristides said: Time to start putting Canadian flags on our backpacks and luggage again and wear tee shirts that say, I am not an American. I'm in Mexico now and the Trump is despised here. The first thing the cab driver from the airport said after he asked where we were from was, "what do you think of Trump". That is what I was thinking. If Trump invades Greenland, Canada, or Mexico, I can imagine being an American in Europe will not be fun. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 5 hours ago, eyeball said: I've yet to see so much as a single MAGA hat amongst the thousands and thousands of visitors that visit my region...tens of thousands per day during the summer. I doubt there's even a single one to be found adorning the head of our forum's Trump supporters. Well maybe if you'd stop throwing rocks at them..... Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 24 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well maybe if you'd stop throwing rocks at them..... It's going to get worse for you guys before it gets better. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: It's going to get worse for you guys before it gets better. Nobody's throwing rocks at canadians. (????) Be honest. You're just a bot aren't you Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Nobody's throwing rocks at canadians. (????) Be honest. You're just a bot aren't you Be honest. You're a shut-in, aren't you? Quote
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