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Posted
39 minutes ago, Legato said:

Anyonewithtwoworkingsynapses

Yeah, David Frum, speechwriter. He helped write GWB's Evil of Axis speech...you're either with us or with the terrorists.

Definitely a lefty alright.

/sarcoff

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
24 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Definitely a lefty alright.

/sarcoff

Yes

Posted
2 minutes ago, Legato said:

Yes

The best indication the right wing is a direction and not a place is the litter of cancelled conservatives left along the side of the road.

Even you will one day find right wingers giving up on you and casting you aside.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The best indication the right wing is a direction and not a place is the litter of cancelled conservatives left along the side of the road.

Even you will one day find right wingers giving up on you and casting you aside.

We pick the few that have strayed and offer help

You guy's need a weekly fleet of garbage trucks to pick up the cannon fodder. 

Posted
7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Projection much?

“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

David Frum.

Frum was wrong. The formerly conservative Party now known as Trumpublicans has ABANDONED BOTH.

There is nothing conservative about running up never ending DEBT, just to serve the vanity of OLIGARCHS.

Posted
11 hours ago, ironstone said:

Did you express any concerns when the son of the current president was shaking down high level foreign officials for cash?

If you have eyes and one working brain cell you would know what has just happened. It's a done deal and no smart or dumb talking can take it away. Done deal. We pay for stupid choices it's a law of nature.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
4 hours ago, myata said:

If you have eyes and one working brain cell you would know what has just happened. It's a done deal and no smart or dumb talking can take it away. Done deal. We pay for stupid choices it's a law of nature.

Indeed. The Democrats have made a lot of stupid choices...

And now it's time to pay for them.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
10 hours ago, myata said:

If you have eyes and one working brain cell you would know what has just happened. It's a done deal and no smart or dumb talking can take it away. Done deal. We pay for stupid choices it's a law of nature.

So your answer would be....no.

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell

Posted
Just now, ironstone said:

So your answer would be

It's a done deal. Precedent created. Any mob boss can try to do the same and more. Why wouldn't they? What's there to stop them?

Pretending it doesn't exist, "forgetting" it won't change a thing, won't erase it from the reality. It's done go on singing and clapping.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
17 hours ago, robosmith said:

Frum was wrong. The formerly conservative Party now known as Trumpublicans has ABANDONED BOTH.

There is nothing conservative about running up never ending DEBT, just to serve the vanity of OLIGARCHS.

Frum probably should have said right wingers, I think the difference is less subtle than imagined. The results of redistributing power to the wealthy are far worse than sharing wealth with the powerless.

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted

The elites especially wishful ones may hope that it'll all be covered and somehow swiped away comes the next election, as a bad dream or an awkward incident that's best to forget.

No such luck. Just none, zero chance and here's why: the political system and social fabric of the society has degraded to the point where a significant or large part of the population is getting accustomed to voting based not on rational considerations of the reality but on the sentiment, which of the fairy tales sounds more cute and promises more of the fairy goodies.

And see, that's already past the line of a modern functional democracy. This is the third world, as it is and has been for two or so centuries, and now you're welcome in it as a fully deserving, de facto member. There can be no easy quick fixes for this condition no matter how the vote rolls the next time or many more times. A third world democracy. Institutions, traditions, great words won't do a thing. There were many, many warning bells. But who was listening to the reality in two echo chambers? An astounding, grotesque failure of responsibility with no clear ways out and back.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

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