The Proud Canadians.

[CdnFox]

22 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

NDP really screwed up by choosing Jagmeet over Charlie Angus.

 

For many many years I would have agreed with you, but Charlie Angus is kind of gone off the deep end lately too. Mind you is getting pretty old so I guess it's to be expected a little. He's stepping down which was probably the right thing to do given his age

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, herbie said:

The OBJECTIVE TRUTH not what you merely BELIEVE .
 

Objective truth has never been the Left's thing.

Canada's past was not pristine, but nobody's was. It was comparatively pristine, though, when compared to other countries, or even how the natives treated each other. 

22 hours ago, herbie said:

Refusing to address their concerns and sticking to 'assimilation' is what needs apologies from the present "us".

The natives need to assimilate, leave, or die. As the number of Asians continues to grow there'll be a great deal less sympathy for them and their constant whining about how rough they have life. And eventually, the reserves will be eliminated as will any other funding and they'll be told to sink or swim just like the rest of the people here. Spending generations living on a patch of rural land with no economic support while holding out their hands for more is just not something anyone but the bleeding heart Left supports. 

[herbie]

Wahh! The left, the woke, waah.

Broccolli is too left don't eat it! Sushi is too woke. EVs are for enviro-marxists!

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Wahh! The left, the woke, waah.

Broccolli is too left don't eat it! Sushi is too woke. EVs are for enviro-marxists!

Walmart have a sale on glue again did it?

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Canada's past was not pristine, but nobody's was. It was comparatively pristine, though, when compared to other countries, or even how the natives treated each other. 

One big thing that helped set ours so far apart from other countries is that we made our justice system available to indigenous people.

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

The natives need to assimilate, leave, or die.

That's the case you'll be making in court? 

LMAO!

[NAME REMOVED]

Throwback from the late 90s

 

[I am Groot]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's the case you'll be making in court? 

LMAO!

Courts aren't where these decisions will be made. Elections are. And Asians, especially Indians (ironically) aren't going to be willing to keep spending to keep natives on their quaint little reserves doing nothing forever. They're not afflicted with white guilt.

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Courts aren't where these decisions will be made. Elections are. And Asians, especially Indians (ironically) aren't going to be willing to keep spending to keep natives on their quaint little reserves doing nothing forever.

Hereabouts they've long since busted out of their reserves and their investments are one of our regions biggest economic drivers. Asians and Indians are as happy to take their money as anyone else. We have a First Nations family staying in our BNB this weekend.

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

They're not afflicted with white guilt.

They're not afflicted with white racism either.

Edited February 2 by eyeball

[Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Courts aren't where these decisions will be made. Elections are. And Asians, especially Indians (ironically) aren't going to be willing to keep spending to keep natives on their quaint little reserves doing nothing forever. They're not afflicted with white guilt.

Well that’s exactly right.  It’s citizens from the “colonized” countries who are colonizing Canada at an unprecedented rate.  The upside of Multiculturalism is that it contains the special interests like Quebec ethno-nationalists and the Indigenous welfare activists.  The downside is that the citizens coming in are overwhelming all of the original groups that started Canada.  The better route than relying on mass immigration is to make it easier for Canadians to have kids and have family friendly policies.  

[Army Guy]

18 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Throwback from the late 90s

 

No your just a whiner....

[Radiorum]

On 1/31/2025 at 9:40 AM, I am Groot said:

Please explain in what way indigenous people are 'disadvantaged'. Also, what exactly does 'disadvantaged' mean?

You have no idea of the oppression and the injustice Indigenous peoples have endured throughout our history?

Let’s go back a bit, to the 18^th and 19^th centuries. The common refrain was “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.” This attitude is captured in an American “classic” – Nick of the Woods (published 1837) written by Dr. Robert Montgomery Bird. In it, he popularized old settler slurs for Native Americans – “red niggurs” – “niggah Injun” - “cussed niggur of a savage” - Niggur-in-law to old Sattan.” This novel featured serial racial murder complete with Jack-the-Ripper-style mutilation as a cause for celebration. A brief for genocide. As late as 1953, this book was classified as an example of “American humour” (In American Humour, by Constance Rourke).

You have no idea about how residential schools tore families apart? Children were taken, forced from their families, for no other reason that to commit cultural genocide, and make those children ashamed of where they came from.

A common slogan of the time was “Kill the Indian in the child.”

This evil created a detrimental intergenerational effect and laid the foundation for the epidemic we see within Indigenous communities today. A mass cultural trauma.

So, for example we see today that Indigenous people are at much higher risk of suicide

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From 2011 to 2016, the suicide rate among First Nations people (24.3 deaths per 100,000 person-years at risk, roughly understood as number of deaths per persons per year) was three times higher than among the non-Indigenous population (8.0 deaths per 100,000 person-years at risk).

And we see a greater estrangement from society, as evidence by their greater incarceration rate:

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In 2020/2021, Indigenous people in Canada were incarcerated at a much higher rate than non-Indigenous people. On an average day that year there were 42.6 Indigenous people in provincial custody per 10,000 population compared to 4.0 non-Indigenous people.

Colonialization was not good for them.

[I am Groot]

On 2/2/2025 at 5:51 PM, Radiorum said:

You have no idea of the oppression and the injustice Indigenous peoples have endured throughout our history?

Sure. So what? This is today. Want to hear about the oppression and injustice the Irish went through?

"I have seen the Indian in his forest and the negro in his chains, and I thought as I contemplated their pitiable conditions, that I saw the very extreme of human wretchedness, but I did not then know the condition of unfortunate Ireland." 

On 2/2/2025 at 5:51 PM, Radiorum said:

Let’s go back a bit, to the 18^th and 19^th centuries. The common refrain was “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.

"No Irish or dogs allowed"

On 2/2/2025 at 5:51 PM, Radiorum said:

You have no idea about how residential schools tore families apart?

Ever heard of the Holocaust?

On 2/2/2025 at 5:51 PM, Radiorum said:

Children were taken, forced from their families, for no other reason that to commit cultural genocide, and make those children ashamed of where they came from.

For a 30 year period, it was required that all children, incl native children, attend school. If there wasn't one nearby they had to go to a residential school. This period ended in 1950. At its height, no more than a third of native kids attended residential schools.

On 2/2/2025 at 5:51 PM, Radiorum said:

This evil created a detrimental intergenerational effect and laid the foundation for the epidemic we see within Indigenous communities today. A mass cultural trauma.

I see. Would you like to talk about the mass cultural trauma of Jews? They seem to be doing pretty well, regardless. 

On 2/2/2025 at 5:51 PM, Radiorum said:

So, for example we see today that Indigenous people are at much higher risk of suicide

And we see a greater estrangement from society, as evidence by their greater incarceration rate:

Colonialization was not good for them.

And without colonialization where would they be now? Still living a hand-to-mouth existence as savages with an average lifespan of about 30 years. 

Edited February 4 by I am Groot

[Zeitgeist]

On 2/1/2025 at 3:49 PM, I am Groot said:

Objective truth has never been the Left's thing.

Canada's past was not pristine, but nobody's was. It was comparatively pristine, though, when compared to other countries, or even how the natives treated each other. 

The natives need to assimilate, leave, or die. As the number of Asians continues to grow there'll be a great deal less sympathy for them and their constant whining about how rough they have life. And eventually, the reserves will be eliminated as will any other funding and they'll be told to sink or swim just like the rest of the people here. Spending generations living on a patch of rural land with no economic support while holding out their hands for more is just not something anyone but the bleeding heart Left supports. 

It’s true.  I was kind of hoping for 51st state so Canada could walk away from the Indigenous welfare money pit, but it seems for now Canadians will continue to wear that millstone.  

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Sure. So what? This is today. Want to hear about the oppression and injustice the Irish went through?

"I have seen the Indian in his forest and the negro in his chains, and I thought as I contemplated their pitiable conditions, that I saw the very extreme of human wretchedness, but I did not then know the condition of unfortunate Ireland." 

"No Irish or dogs allowed"

Ever heard of the Holocaust?

For a 30 year period, it was required that all children, incl native children, attend school. If there wasn't one nearby they had to go to a residential school. This period ended in 1950. At its height, no more than a third of native kids attended residential schools.

I see. Would you like to talk about the mass cultural trauma of Jews? They seem to be doing pretty well, regardless. 

And without colonialization where would they be now? Still living a hand-to-mouth existence as savages with an average lifespan of about 30 years. 

This is it. Countless other cultures have suffered far far worse and yet bounced back to make good lives for themselves often within a generation.

I'm half Irish and heard all about some of the trials and tribulations that my family faced on that side. The other half was ukrainian Mennonite and that family fled the great Revolution with half the family dead and the clothes on their backs to start life anew in a country where they didn't even speak the language. And their children were hugely economically successful despite the trauma.

By the way. a LOT of immigrant parents raised a fuss about their kids being forced to attend 'english cathoilic' school against the parent's will. 

But for some reason the first nations are crippled until the end of time as a race and a nation because they were forced to go to school. 

 

[I am Groot]

On 2/4/2025 at 12:05 PM, CdnFox said:

But for some reason the first nations are crippled until the end of time as a race and a nation because they were forced to go to school. 

Because one-third of their kids were forced to go to residential school between 1920-1950... 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Because one-third of their kids were forced to go to residential school between 1920-1950... 

And they went home in the summers etc.  I know some of the schools actually had GOOD reputations, i'm told the one in mission for example actively ensured that elders from the local tribes came and talked to the kids and did cultural events etc.  

Compared to what the world has seen it just doesn't seem apocalyptic enough to ruin an entire nation of people for generations.