Ex-Second Cup owner and pro-Palestinian activist arrested in Montreal for Hate Crimes.

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Ex-Second Cup franchisee arrested after antisemitic incident at Concordia protest

Franchisee had 2 coffee shops in Montreal's Jewish General Hospital

CBC News · Posted: Dec 18, 2024 3:56 PM MST | Last Updated: 3 hours ago

 

A woman filmed making antisemitic remarks and performing a Nazi salute at a protest in Montreal last month has been arrested, according to Radio-Canada sources. The incident, which occurred on Nov. 21 outside Concordia University, led to the termination of the woman's franchise agreement with Second Cup and the closure of the two café locations she operated at Montreal's Jewish General Hospital.

Montreal police have not yet publicly confirmed the arrest. After reviewing videos of the protest, Peter Mammas, the president and CEO of Foodtastic (which owns the Second Cup coffee chain), confirmed that the woman raising her arm in a Nazi salute and making antisemitic remarks was Mai Abdulhadi, the franchisee involved.

"The final solution is coming your way, the final solution. You know what the final solution is?" the woman can be heard saying in the crowd. The phrase is widely recognized for its association with Nazi Germany's plan to exterminate Jewish people. CBC has viewed the videos, which are being circulated on social media. Mammas said a franchise termination notice was served to her shortly after her identity was verified.

 

 

• Second Cup cuts ties with Montreal franchisee, closes cafés over antisemitic remarks and gesture

The protest Abdulhadi attended was organized in the context of CEGEP and university students in Montreal striking and calling for Quebec post-secondary institutions to divest from companies with ties to Israel and urging the federal government to take a stance against the ongoing war in Gaza. In a statement posted to its social media pages days later, on Nov. 24, Second Cup Canada said it has "zero tolerance for hate speech."

"In co-ordination with the hospital, we've shut down the franchisee's café and are terminating their franchise agreement," the statement read, noting staff would be retained and paid until the locations reopen under new management. On the social media platform X, Jewish advocacy group B'nai Brith Canada commended the Service de Police de la Ville de Montréal (SPVM) for making the arrest.

"This sends a clear and powerful message: hate and antisemitism will not be tolerated on Canadian streets," the post read. "Thank you to the SPVM for standing up for justice and protecting Canadian values. Together, we remain vigilant in the fight against hate."

source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/second-cup-franchisee-arrested-1.7414313

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Deport, deport, deport. 

Edited December 19, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[herbie]

Good!
FYI much as some of us would like they can't deport citizens.

[Politics1990]

good news indeed

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, herbie said:

Good!
FYI much as some of us would like they can't deport citizens.

Is she a Canadian citizen or just someone in the process of trying to obtain citizenship?

[Moonlight Graham]

Bye Felicia.

 

[herbie]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Is she a Canadian citizen or just someone in the process of trying to obtain citizenship?

How would I know? I'm not one of those throwbacks that automatically assume you must be a foreigner if you have a funny name. More likely to assume if she's working and a business owner she'd either a citizen or she's a landed immigrant.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

How would I know? I'm not one of those throwbacks that automatically assume you must be a foreigner if you have a funny name. More likely to assume if she's working and a business owner she'd either a citizen or she's a landed immigrant.

If she's a landed immigrant then she isn't a citizen.

I never said she's not a citizen, I asked if she was.

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7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Is she a Canadian citizen or just someone in the process of trying to obtain citizenship?

Who cares?

Regardless if she is first or second generation, I am sick and tired of these people bring their wars halfway across the World into Canada, and harassing and (in some cases) assaulting) innocent people.

Notice it's just one side doing this? The Jewish community isn't going into Arab neighbourhoods and businesses, and harassing them. 

Edited December 20, 2024 by DUI_Offender

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Palestine, September 11, 2001:

 

Palestine, October 7, 2023:

 

 

The more things change, the more things stay the same. 

Edited December 20, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[ironstone]

 

He does not mince words, and he has been identified.

What will happen to him?

[Venandi]

17 hours ago, ironstone said:

What will happen to him?

When demographic concentrations reach critical mass, the question will become how do you negotiate with him? I worry more about young second generation immigrants from volatile regions than I do their parents who fled with only the shirt on their backs.

Regardless though, expecting new arrivals to abandon old grudges, particularly religious and ethnic ones simply by breathing Canadian air is a uniquely progressive idea that will eventually prove just as disappointing as JT himself.

It will just take longer to achieve. 

I have yet to meet a single progressive with strong opinions who have even set foot in the region that they have strong opinions about. Those who have tend to be the ones urging caution... those who haven't tend to be the ones ridiculing them for doing so.

It always takes time to figure out who's right, we're beginning to get a few hints now and like other countries who got the same hints at the same point in the process, we'll ignore them.  

Edited December 21, 2024 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Venandi said:

When demographic concentrations reach critical mass, the question will become how do you negotiate with him? I worry more about young second generation immigrants from volatile regions than I do their parents who fled with only the shirt on their backs.

 

Worry not.

Pew research shows that all religions decline at similar rates, and the numbers of Muslims, as you seem to allude to, remain low as a percentage.

 

[Michael Hardner]

On 12/19/2024 at 7:58 PM, DUI_Offender said:

 The Jewish community isn't going into Arab neighbourhoods and businesses, and harassing them. 

Very true, UNLESS you count Gaza

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Pew research shows that all religions decline at similar rates, and the numbers of Muslims, as you seem to allude to, remain low as a percentage.

The same research (by Pew) shows that Islam is projected to be the fastest growing major religion in the decades ahead. They point to the fact that between 2010 and 2015 that births to Muslim parents made up 31% of all babies born around the world.

At the same time, they also acknowledge that world wide Christian births would likely continue to exceed Muslim births (in total) until 2045 when a reverse of that trend would become apparent. 

They also made projections about global population growth that's worth considering here, the highlight being that the worlds least developed countries are on track to double their populations while ours (actually some 60 countries in total) would actually decrease due to falling fertility. 

All of that is off the point I was trying to make though, the issue is old grudges and simmering ethnic hatreds that spill over into new countries as if those new countries were the original homeland that spawned the events that created the grudges in the first place. It's not even just grudges, there are ethnic customs and traditions to consider too.

I simply used Muslims to illustrate the point, there are others. By way of example we took in a lot of single mothers from the Horn of Africa without considering that in their own country they enjoyed lower status than their teenage sons. I'm not suggesting that's good BTW only that it's a reality.

They needed extra help to integrate into Canadian society yet those who pointed that out were deemed racist and xenophobic at the time and they didn't get it.

Instead (just like in other "enlightened progressive countries) they were warehoused vertically in ethnic enclaves.  Culturally, they were (and often remain) wary of government, police, and military forces... and with damn good reason.

Without the help they needed, they lost control of their sons and the demographic concentration did the rest of the job. That's only one piece of the ethnic gang equation in Toronto but it wasn't that hard to anticipate for the racist xenophobes who actually spent time in such places. 

None of this is quite as simple as it seems, and thinking that first breath of Canadian air solves generational issues like this remains the domain of those who never anticipated the possibility. And, as I said above it's usually the domain of people who have never been off the vacation circuit.

They go para sailing in the Maldives (or wherever) and return with a profound understanding of radical Islam.

All IMO of course, I'm neither a scholar or an expert in cultural topography. I'm not even saying don't do it... I'd just recommend more caution and less (I'll call it) ridicule and name calling when considering options, levels, concentrations, security clearances, available resources and a bunch of other things that would fill a new thread.

Got to run... cheers

 

 

Edited December 21, 2024 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

12 minutes ago, Venandi said:

1. The same research (by Pew) shows that Islam is projected to be the fastest growing major religion in the decades ahead. They point to the fact that between 2010 and 2015 that births to Muslim parents made up 31% of all babies born around the world.

2. At the same time, they also acknowledge that world wide Christian births would likely continue to exceed Muslim births (in total) until 2045 when a reverse of that trend would become apparent. 

3. They also made projections about global population growth that's worth considering here, the highlight being that the worlds least developed countries are on track to double their populations while ours (actually some 60 countries in total) would actually decrease due to falling fertility. 

4. All of that is off the point I was trying to make though, the issue is old grudges and simmering ethnic hatreds that spill over into new countries as if those new countries were the original homeland that spawned the events that created the grudges in the first place. It's not even just grudges, there are ethnic customs and traditions to consider too.

I simply used Muslims to illustrate the point, there are others. By way of example we took in a lot of single mothers from the Horn of Africa without considering that in their own country they enjoyed lower status than their teenage sons. I'm not suggesting that's good BTW only that it's a reality.

They needed extra help to integrate into Canadian society yet those who pointed that out were deemed racist and xenophobic at the time and they didn't get it.

Instead (just like in other "enlightened progressive countries) they were warehoused vertically in ethnic enclaves.  Culturally, they were (and often remain) wary of government, police, and military forces... and with damn good reason.

Without the help they needed, they lost control of their sons and the demographic concentration did the rest of the job. That's only one piece of the ethnic gang equation in Toronto but it wasn't that hard to anticipate for the racist xenophobes who actually spent time in such places. 

5. None of this is quite as simple as it seems, and thinking that first breath of Canadian air solves generational issues like this remains the domain of those who never anticipated the possibility. And, as I said above it's usually the domain of people who have never been off the vacation circuit.

6. They go para sailing in the Maldives (or wherever) and return with a profound understanding of radical Islam.

7. All IMO of course, I'm neither a scholar or an expert in cultural topography. I'm not even saying don't do it... I'd just recommend more caution and less (I'll call it) ridicule and name calling when considering options, levels, concentrations, security clearances, available resources and a bunch of other things that would fill a new thread.

Got to run... cheers

 

 

1. Makes sense.  We're now switching the frame of reference to the world, and so I'll have new points to add.

2. Did not know this. I would like to see a cite, as I suspect "Christian" is a loose definition here.

3. Yes, but not mentioned in that is that all nations will see fertility reductions and global population should start to decline between 2065 and 2100.

4. All of this would need deeper investigation, likely outside the scope of this thread.

5. The fact is that economic concerns drive immigration policy, with the possible exception of refugee policy.

6. Sounds oddly specific.  

7. Absolutely.  Let's not call the planners and bureaucrats "elitists" "WEF Goons" "Globalists" and so on.  In fact, let's assume any position is valid and ask for hard evidence, understanding that you actually won't get any for most economic questions.  And let's stop assuming people are stupid and that if you tell someone that an illegal immigrant murdered someone, they will likely ignore that data point when considering questions of immigration overall.

In other words, let's pay attention to the big numbers and assume that the morality will come with a good decision.  I am pretty tired of people leading with moral accusations on here and fanning themselves in outrage when people call THEM racist.

I'm not afraid of discussion, but I don't want to waste my time with people who want to have it both ways.