If Kamala is so Eminently Capable, Why do Demis Want to Keep Joe in The Whitehouse?

[WestCanMan]

From the standpoint of having the wherewithal to run the most influential country on the planet, Joe is a pure vegetable, plain and simple. 

He can't complete a simple sentence if it's not on the teleprompter, so he's obviously not even the one putting those words on there in the first place. If we're being honest, not a single one of us knows who's running the country.

So why have the Dems not put Kamala forward? They already submarined Joe. The knives are still sticking out of his back for all to see. Why not just hold the political pillow there for just one second longer and send him to retirement, which he has earned? 

Is "POTUS" just a make-believe job? Do the powers-that-be prefer to have a marshmallow behind the podium than an opinionated dummy? If that's the case, why did they prop her up for the 2024 election? What are we supposed to believe? 

Let's face it, Joe's not getting up at 6:30 and putting himself together for a 12-hr workday, or 60/week. He's not even doing a 1-hr workday most days. He's getting up at 9:00, shuffling around in a suit when he should still be in pyjamas, he mumbles a few words from the teleprompter every 3rd day, and he takes multiple nappies daily. 

If you asked him "Where are the most significant battles in Ukraine/Russia or Gaza or the ME taking place today?" during his most lucid moments of the day, he wouldn't have a clue. "Uhhh, Scranton!!!" He barely even knows what state he's in himself ffs.

So why don't they trot out Cacklehag to at least string some sentences together? Not 6, just 2. America deserves at least a few 2-sentence answers, no? Or someone who can actually read all the words on the teleprompter...

I get that it looks bad for the US if they transition the POTUS out before the end of a term, but it's gonna look a lot worse if he just plops down into his Jello and dies of a heart attack or stroke - or just old age - while he's still in office. 

[Deluge]

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

From the standpoint of having the wherewithal to run the most influential country on the planet, Joe is a pure vegetable, plain and simple. 

He can't complete a simple sentence if it's not on the teleprompter, so he's obviously not even the one putting those words on there in the first place. If we're being honest, not a single one of us knows who's running the country.

So why have the Dems not put Kamala forward? They already submarined Joe. The knives are still sticking out of his back for all to see. Why not just hold the political pillow there for just one second longer and send him to retirement, which he has earned? 

Is "POTUS" just a make-believe job? Do the powers-that-be prefer to have a marshmallow behind the podium than an opinionated dummy? If that's the case, why did they prop her up for the 2024 election? What are we supposed to believe? 

Let's face it, Joe's not getting up at 6:30 and putting himself together for a 12-hr workday, or 60/week. He's not even doing a 1-hr workday most days. He's getting up at 9:00, shuffling around in a suit when he should still be in pyjamas, he mumbles a few words from the teleprompter every 3rd day, and he takes multiple nappies daily. 

If you asked him "Where are the most significant battles in Ukraine/Russia or Gaza or the ME taking place today?" during his most lucid moments of the day, he wouldn't have a clue. "Uhhh, Scranton!!!" He barely even knows what state he's in himself ffs.

So why don't they trot out Cacklehag to at least string some sentences together? Not 6, just 2. America deserves at least a few 2-sentence answers, no? Or someone who can actually read all the words on the teleprompter...

I get that it looks bad for the US if they transition the POTUS out before the end of a term, but it's gonna look a lot worse if he just plops down into his Jello and dies of a heart attack or stroke - or just old age - while he's still in office. 

Because Kamie Kams might do something really stupid like threaten Russia with nuclear attack. 

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Because Kamie Kams might do something really stupid

Might? 🤣🤣🤣

Good one 😃

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like threaten Russia with nuclear attack. 

TBH, you have a really good point there. 

If you give an angry dummy like her 50 days to make her mark from the Oval Office, theres a really good chance that she will cross a line we dare not cross.

At least with Biden they can always cut the mic when he starts talking stupid and no one will notice. We'll all just breathe a sigh of relief. Can you imagine if they cut the mic on "the first black female president"? OMG. We'd be hearing about that for 100 years. Joy Reid would become a media superstar overnight.

Edited November 12, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Nationalist]

Won't happen. Brandon hates Kamala and Dr. Jill would like to see her dead.

[CdnFox]

59 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If we're being honest, not a single one of us knows who's running the country.

That is the scariest bit.  And to be honest, probably why the dems havent' pulled his strings yet. The puppet masters aren't excited about having someone else in. 

The reality though is I don't think Joe is being as cooperative as they wanted. His initial talk when he announced that he was stepping down as a candidate talked about spending his time working on the supreme court. But he's done nothing there. There's a bunch of other things democrats would like him to do before he leaves but he hasn't been making a lot of headway there either

There's even been talked that he should step down from the presidency and make Camilla president so that at least we can say that there's been a black American female president but I think the chances of him doing that for her is no times no to the power of oh hell no. 

Hard to say what kind of little Easter eggs trump is going to find when he actually gets control of the situation

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

His initial talk when he announced that he was stepping down as a candidate talked about spending his time working on the supreme court.

That's the scariest bit IMO. 

The SC was really the only thing standing between the Dems and absolute power for the last 4 years. They ran the FBI, MSM and AG's office like their own personal playthings.

If the Demis had the SC they'd be 1-party all the way. It's a huge thorn in their side. 

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's the scariest bit IMO. 

The SC was really the only thing standing between the Dems and absolute power for the last 4 years. They ran the FBI, MSM and AG's office like their own personal playthings.

If the Demis had the SC they'd be 1-party all the way. It's a huge thorn in their side. 

I think that they desperately want biden to do something about the court but I got a funny feeling that he's feeling a little vindictive and isn't taking any action purposely.

Two judges are coming up to the point where they will probably have to retire soon, they're well into their seventies. I know there's been push to have Biden ask them to step down and point to new younger people so at least there be two democrats on the court. But he's made no motions in that direction and I know that the process does take some time which they are quickly running out of.

I think his attitude is basically that he's finished in politics and at the end of his term here it won't matter anymore so to say thanks for forcing him to step down he's just going to ride it out and do them no favors.

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Easy answer.

 

Biden announced he would not be running after his term ended in January 2025. This happened in the late 60s when Lyndon Johnson announced he was not going to run in the 1968 Election. Kamala Harris was never elected president, so she cannot lead the nation, just as Humphrey never lead the United States, when he decided to replace Johnson. 

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Won't happen. Brandon hates Kamala and Dr. Jill would like to see her dead.

Lol. Dr Jill would roll his corpse in and out of the oval office for 70 days just to keep Kamala out. 

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Two judges are coming up to the point where they will probably have to retire soon, they're well into their seventies. I know there's been push to have Biden ask them to step down and point to new younger people so at least there be two democrats on the court.

The irony in that would be absolutely astonishing coming from the current president, in the state that he's in.

Joey B: "It has come to our uhhh intention that you uhhh, might be too old to do the serpine port thing anymore. Huh? Oh, surprine, serrr, suuhh... You know, the thing with the robes an' stuff! You are just way older than you should be right now. That's not a job where you can just read from a teluhhprommer. Go take some naps now. Really nice naps. And you didn't even lock up Trump ya dog-faced pony soldier. Skidaddle! Git!" 

[Yakuda]

9 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Easy answer.

 

Biden announced he would not be running after his term ended in January 2025. This happened in the late 60s when Lyndon Johnson announced he was not going to run in the 1968 Election. Kamala Harris was never elected president, so she cannot lead the nation, just as Humphrey never lead the United States, when he decided to replace Johnson. 

What are you jabbering on about? Ford took over for Nixon after he resigned. Biden could resign anytime he likes. Joe never will though especially after being ousted. 

Edited November 13, 2024 by Yakuda

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Easy answer.

 

Biden announced he would not be running after his term ended in January 2025. This happened in the late 60s when Lyndon Johnson announced he was not going to run in the 1968 Election. Kamala Harris was never elected president, so she cannot lead the nation, just as Humphrey never lead the United States, when he decided to replace Johnson. 

Lyndon Johnson wasn't demented. Biden was forced out because he's not mentally fit. Bit of a different circumstance

[Yakuda]

34 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Lyndon Johnson wasn't demented. Biden was forced out because he's not mentally fit. Bit of a different circumstance

I think if that debate hadnt been such a fubar for biden we never would have had to deal with Harris 

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1 hour ago, Yakuda said:

What are you jabbering on about? Ford took over for Nixon after he resigned. Biden could resign anytime he likes. Joe never will though especially after being ousted. 

You are clearly a buffoon, who knows nothing about US history. Nixon was forced to resign after the Watergate scandal. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Yakuda said:

I think if that debate hadnt been such a fubar for biden we never would have had to deal with Harris 

But it was that way because Biden is a mess.

Trump's big mistake and all of this was accepting a debate before Biden was actually nominated as the candidate. I said when the debates were announced that they might be trotting him out to see if he can actually do a debate and while there's still time to get rid of him if he can't. And lo and behold that's precisely what had happened

If trump had said no debate until you have a candidate and the first debate had occurred late august early September, even if Biden hadn't screwed it up as bad I think trump would have had a much easier path to victory

As it is clearly the polling was way off and just could not account for the low propensity voter turnout which tends to favor trump. So perhaps it wasn't as close as we all thought ever.

There's no way that harris would have won a primary. She didn't win when she tried. Didn't even last the first ballots in her home state. They might have been able to pick someone who could put up an actual fight.

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

You are clearly a buffoon, who knows nothing about US history. Nixon was forced to resign after the Watergate scandal. 

That doesn't actually change his point. Nixon stepped down and resigned so that ford could pardon him so that he wouldn't face criminal charges, so the point remains that if Biden wanted to he can step down at any time and harris can take over. That is still a true statement

[robosmith]

No one can force Joe out. Duh

Nixon was forced out due to threat of impeachment.

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No one can force Joe out. Duh

Nixon was forced out due to threat of impeachment.

They absolutely can force him out

Amendment 25 section 4 provides:

Section 4

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

 

In other words if the executive and the vice president say that the president is unable to continue because he's nuts, then she takes over as president. They absolutely can force him out

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16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No one can force Joe out. Duh

Nixon was forced out due to threat of impeachment.

My point exactly.

[West]

Trump should offer Biden a cabinet spot. We all know Joe is a closeted MAGA guy

[robosmith]

13 minutes ago, West said:

Trump should offer Biden a cabinet spot. We all know Joe is a closeted MAGA guy

Thanks for proving you are a LIAR.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, West said:

Trump should offer Biden a cabinet spot. We all know Joe is a closeted MAGA guy

Anyone who likes jobs and low inflation more than they like poverty and late-term abortion is a MAGA person. 

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13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Anyone who likes jobs and low inflation more than they like poverty and late-term abortion is a MAGA person. 

 

Facts don't lie. Employment under Democratic Presidents is greater than employment under Republican presidents.  It should also be noted that nearly all major recessions in the past 50 years (1973, 1982, 1990, 2001, 2008, 2020) were under Republican leadership.

 

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

 

Facts don't lie.

 

Democrat 'facts' do. 

Those figures are wrong.  Consider the trump figure alone -  they show NEGATIVE job growth for trump   In other words, they're trying to claim the COVID LOCKDOWN as 'job losses under trump'. 

Those are the 'facts' you're talking about.  Are you suggesting if a democrat was in power they WOULDN"T have gone into lockdown ? That somehow the covid lockdowns where everyone was sent home is some sort of actual 'job loss'?

meanwhile the job "growth" under biden includes the people coming BACK from covid.  As it those were new jobs, and not just people returning from covid. 

Just one example of your "facts" that don't "lie".   Fact is democrat "facts" are nothing BUT lies. 

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Here is an excellent  article from July 2024, about Kamala Harris from the USA today. The election played out exactly as the writer had predicted:

 

Harris is awful. But left's love of identity politics means Democrats are stuck with her.

President Biden's inner circle had to have known for some time that he was unwell and unfit to serve a second term. As vice president, Harris had to have known it as well.

Nicole Russell

USA TODAY

 

President Joe Biden has finally bowed out of his reelection campaign and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris as his successor. In doing so, Biden and his party have undermined the democratic process at every step. Delegates who are pledged to Biden must now throw their weight behind Harris or risk an open convention. They must do that even though they surely realize how bad all of this looks for the party that has spent the past four years accusing Republicans of undermining the 2020 election results.

They also surely know that Harris isn't the best person to represent the Democratic Party. Yet, delegates must support Harris not only because of Biden's endorsement but also because they're shackled by their party's radical embrace of identity politics. 

Democrats have no real choice but to back Kamala Harris

For years, the Democratic Party has championed woke, identity politics. Its definition is at once obscure but obvious. Progressives have demanded that race, ethnicity, sexual orientation and gender preferences be paramount in nearly every walk of life, from politics to higher education, corporate industries to entertainment and media.

Harris, at the time a first-term senator representing California, the most progressive state in the country, ran for the presidency in 2020. Her campaign failed spectacularly. It was so bad that she dropped out before the first primary, and even NBC News described her bid for the White House as "a mess."

Yet, Biden still picked her to be his vice president. She has done nothing in the past four years to show she is ready to be president, and the prospect of her serving as commander in chief is downright scary.

Her policy positions are even more progressive than Biden's. That's if you can nail down what her policies are. She seems to flip-flop as much as the next slimy politician.

In 2019, she was ranked the most liberal U.S. senator in America − beating out even Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.

As California's attorney general, Harris earned a reputation for being tough on crime. That's not necessarily a bad thing. But a lot of conservatives and libertarians will look down on her penchant for being unusually tough on petty crimes like marijuana possession.

As vice president, it's hard to say what Harris has accomplished. In 2021, Biden assigned her the job of addressing the migrant crisis at the U.S. border with Mexico. Her efforts with that task have been almost as successful as her 2020 presidential campaign.

Observers in her home state of California note that Harris has lacked consistency on key issues such as public safety.

What does she stand for? What can she do? Why has none of this been a problem for her political ascension? Because Harris, the first Black, South Asian and female vice president of the United States, is the trifecta of identity politics: Black, female and liberal.

Harris wasn't ready to be president four years ago. The fact she polled at 3% when she dropped out of the race in 2020 is an indication of that. But the Democratic Party paired her with a much stronger (at the time) politician. Now, she'll have to do much more on her own. But she won't because she's not capable.

Democrats obsessed with Trump ignored Biden's obvious flaws

Democrats have been intensely focused on Donald Trump's shortcomings, real and imagined, since 2016. I'm a conservative, and I've blasted him many times. Yet, Democrats failed to see that their own candidate was inept and unqualified for the job until the whole world could see it on the debate stage last month.

Harris deserves a large portion of the blame for this. Biden's inner circle had to have known for some time that he was unwell and unfit to serve a second term.

As vice president, Harris had to have known it as well. But she kept quiet and helped to keep the con going − perhaps for her own gain but at least for the sake of her party.

Harris helped to hide the truth about Biden

If Democratic convention delegates choose Harris, voters will quickly realize she is not the best choice to lead this country. She will likely fail and fail miserably.

Voters must understand this: The Democratic Party, including Vice President Harris, lied to you repeatedly, propping up a presidential candidate who had no business running for reelection, let alone leading this country.

Democrats have trapped themselves in a corner with an incoherent candidate on the way out and an inept candidate they must begrudgingly support. These are their own rules.

And to this, Republicans must say with a chuckle and sneer: Your terms are acceptable.  

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On 11/13/2024 at 4:18 PM, CdnFox said:

Democrat 'facts' do. 

Those figures are wrong.  Consider the trump figure alone -  they show NEGATIVE job growth for trump   In other words, they're trying to claim the COVID LOCKDOWN as 'job losses under trump'. 

Those are the 'facts' you're talking about.  Are you suggesting if a democrat was in power they WOULDN"T have gone into lockdown ? That somehow the covid lockdowns where everyone was sent home is some sort of actual 'job loss'?

meanwhile the job "growth" under biden includes the people coming BACK from covid.  As it those were new jobs, and not just people returning from covid. 

Just one example of your "facts" that don't "lie".   Fact is democrat "facts" are nothing BUT lies. 

@CdnFox, I notice you base your entire rebuttal on the 2020 COVID pandemic, and conveniently ignore the fact that the Democratic Party has done better with the economy and national debt for the past 50 years. 

The reason why you base your argument on one year out of the last 5 decades, is that you have no rebuttal as to why Democratic Leaders such as Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Barack Obama handled the economy exponentially better than George Bush Sr, George Bush Jr, and Donald trump. 

It's actually quite pathetic how you ignore the fact that every single recession going back 50 years, has occurred under Republican leadership (1973, 1982, 1990, 2001, 2008, and 2020). Other than Ronald Reagan, name one Republican president who ended up leaving office, without the US economy in the shitter, and the national dept spiralling out of control. 

 

Edited November 16, 2024 by DUI_Offender