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Trump and Musk conspire with Putin in Treason against US allies Ukraine and Taiwan

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robosmith Grand Master

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First Putin asks Musk to deny Starlink to Taiwan, and so far he has.

Oct 24, 2024 — ... Putin had asked Musk not to activate his Starlink satellites over Taiwan as a "favor" to Chinese leader Xi Jinping. The report arrives as 

Meanwhile Musk is providing Starlink Internet to Russian in Ukraine while cutting it off to Ukraine at critical junctures .

Oct 25, 2024 — In 2023, Musk then refused to allow Ukraine to use Starlink for a surprise attack on Russian soldiers in Crimea.

Both Trump and Musk have been having secret (to the public) phone calls with Putin while backing Trump's campaign to the hilt with over $100M contributions and promoting foreign disinformation on X.

Sep 7, 2023 — Biography alleges Musk told engineers to turn off communications network to hobble Ukraine drone attack on Russian warships.

 

Oct 25, 2024 — Regular contacts between world's richest man and America's chief antagonist raise security concerns; topics include geopolitics, ...

 

Oct 8, 2024 — Bob Woodward writes in his new book “War” that Donald Trump has had as many as seven private phone calls with Vladimir Putin since leaving ...

 

 

 

 

 

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West Grand Master

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roboliar needs to give this a listen for some perspective. 

the facts are you folks keep pushing multiple hoaxes. The facts are if you had to run on policy Democrats would never win anything. Instead they peddle a bunch of hoax bullshit to scare people. 

These are truly evil people, folks 

 

 

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gatomontes99 Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

2016 called. It wants it's campaign lie back

Did you just do the year called and wants something back thing?

Yeah, that fits.

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robosmith Grand Master

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2 hours ago, West said:

roboliar needs to give this a listen for some perspective. 

the facts are you folks keep pushing multiple hoaxes. The facts are if you had to run on policy Democrats would never win anything. Instead they peddle a bunch of hoax bullshit to scare people. 

These are truly evil people, folks 

YOU are LYING because you cannot refute any of the EVIDENCE I POSTED.

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Did you just do the year called and wants something back thing?

Yeah, that fits.

And yet the supposed LIE cannot even be identified, let alone disproven.

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ironstone Grand Master

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10 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Musk has been doing this in the Ukraine for 2 years. Why the Government continues to fund his garbage projects is beyond me.

Why do I have the feeling you would not feel this way if Musk was supporting Democrats?

In fact, there was hardly any criticism of Musk until he started to openly support Trump.

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gatomontes99 Grand Master

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12 hours ago, robosmith said:

YOU are LYING because you cannot refute any of the EVIDENCE I POSTED.

And yet the supposed LIE cannot even be identified, let alone disproven.

The central allegations is that Musk turned off Starlink. He did not. You cannot turn off what was never on:

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https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/09/14/musk-internet-access-crimea-ukraine/

Musk responded to the allegations on X (formerly Twitter) in a series of messages in which he claimed the following: (1) Starlink was never activated in the region in the first place, and therefore he never deactivated it, and (2) the Ukrainian government had asked him to activate Starlink "all the way to Sevastopol," the largest city in Crimea, and he refused to do that to avoid escalating the conflict.

You see, we make fun of you because we are grounded in reality. We already know the truth. You are just an amusing side show.

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Legato Grand Master

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12 hours ago, robosmith said:

YOU are LYING because you cannot refute any of the EVIDENCE I POSTED.

And yet the supposed LIE cannot even be identified, let alone disproven.

YOU are LYING because you cannot prove any of that stuff due to LACK OF EVIDENCE>

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robosmith Grand Master

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5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Treason against allies?

That's not even possible. 

Treason against US interests. Duh

AKA supporting WAR against allies we're (and Canada) helping to DEFEND.

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

Why do I have the feeling you would not feel this way if Musk was supporting Democrats?

In fact, there was hardly any criticism of Musk until he started to openly support Trump.

If Trump were supporting Democrats, he would not be treasonously HELPING Putin. Duh

robosmith Grand Master

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1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

The central allegations is that Musk turned off Starlink. He did not. You cannot turn off what was never on:

You see, we make fun of you because we are grounded in reality. We already know the truth. You are just an amusing side show.

No, you believe what Musk said with NO OTHER evidence.

Ukraine had access to Starlink and it was disabled temporarily.

What impact on the war in Ukraine due to the use of Starlink satellites for internet access?
 
 
Synopsis. SpaceX's Starlink internet service has played a crucial role in providing internet access to Ukraine during the conflict with Russia. The technology has been used for guiding Ukraine's drone strikes on Russian tanks and positions, enhancing Ukraine's defence capabilities.Feb 15, 2024
1 hour ago, Legato said:

YOU are LYING because you cannot prove any of that stuff due to LACK OF EVIDENCE>

I posted EVIDENCE, you post ^TROLLING.

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3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No, you believe what Musk said with NO OTHER evidence.

Ukraine had access to Starlink and it was disabled temporarily.

What impact on the war in Ukraine due to the use of Starlink satellites for internet access?
 
 
Synopsis. SpaceX's Starlink internet service has played a crucial role in providing internet access to Ukraine during the conflict with Russia. The technology has been used for guiding Ukraine's drone strikes on Russian tanks and positions, enhancing Ukraine's defence capabilities.Feb 15, 2024

I posted EVIDENCE, you post ^TROLLING.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-economic-times/

Your website is a left wing nut job propaganda.Conspiracy theory website.

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Nationalist Grand Master

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22 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Treason against US interests. Duh

AKA supporting WAR against allies we're (and Canada) helping to DEFEND.

If Trump were supporting Democrats, he would not be treasonously HELPING Putin. Duh

Peewee...you can't be charged with treason over a treaty.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

User Grand Master

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17 hours ago, robosmith said:

First Putin asks Musk to deny Starlink to Taiwan, and so far he has.

They had a commercial for folks like you back in the day:

 

Here is why Taiwan does not have Starlink:

"Starlink is not available in Taiwan after negotiations reportedly fell apart over Taiwan’s requirement that a local entity have a majority share of any joint venture established."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/15/taiwan-to-have-satellite-internet-service-as-protection-in-case-of-chinese-attack

 

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Legato Grand Master

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1 hour ago, robosmith said:

No, you believe what Musk said with NO OTHER evidence.

Ukraine had access to Starlink and it was disabled temporarily.

What impact on the war in Ukraine due to the use of Starlink satellites for internet access?
 
 
Synopsis. SpaceX's Starlink internet service has played a crucial role in providing internet access to Ukraine during the conflict with Russia. The technology has been used for guiding Ukraine's drone strikes on Russian tanks and positions, enhancing Ukraine's defence capabilities.Feb 15, 2024

I posted EVIDENCE, you post ^TROLLING.

Sherlock Homes is a fictitious character.

CdnFox Grand Master

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6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Wrong

‘Aid and comfort’ to enemies: Trump, Russia and treason

 

You realize he said that you can't get treason from a treaty. And none of what you just talked about involves a treaty.

It's one thing to make a mistake and post something that makes you look a little silly. It's another to do it in massive font like a giant neon sign to the world that's like "blink blink I'm stupid as hell" :) 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

robosmith Grand Master

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53 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Aid and comfort? Lol.

https://legalknowledgebase.com/is-breaking-a-treaty-illegal?origin=serp_auto

Enjoy...

Oh, delicious:

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Do treaties have the force of law?

Treaties are binding agreements between nations and become part of international law. Treaties to which the United States is a party also have the force of federal legislation, forming part of what the Constitution calls ''the supreme Law of the Land.

But that is irrelevant to giving "aid and comfort to America's enemies." Duh

Breaking international law with the unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country makes Russia an enemy of NATO, including Canada.

Nationalist Grand Master

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1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Oh, delicious:

But that is irrelevant to giving "aid and comfort to America's enemies." Duh

Breaking international law with the unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country makes Russia an enemy of NATO, including Canada.

International law?

Robo...really...go put your mommy to bed.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

CdnFox Grand Master

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1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Are you completely IGNORANT about international law, too? LMAO

We already know you are. You're ignorant of american law as well. You kept insisting that not only was it the law that they kept trump off the ballots it was their duty that they had to do it because of the law. And when it was explained to you that that wasn't true and why you still insisted that was the case. And it turns out a judge ruled your absolutely wrong and you don't know anything. So why would anybody think you know anything now?

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

robosmith Grand Master

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On 11/5/2024 at 4:17 PM, Nationalist said:

International law?

Robo...really...go put your mommy to bed.

Yes, International LAW broken IGNORAMUS. Duh

How Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine Violates International Law

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Russia’s invasion of Ukraine violates Article 2(4) of the UN Charter, a central tenet of the charter that requires UN member states to refrain from the “use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state.”

The suggestion by President Vladimir Putin and other Russian officials that Russia’s use of force is justified under Article 51 of the UN Charter has no support in fact or law. Article 51 provides that “nothing in the present charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs against a member of the United Nations.” However, Ukraine did not commit or threaten to commit an armed attack against Russia or any other UN member state. Even if Russia could show that Ukraine had committed or planned to commit attacks on Russians in the Ukrainian regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, Article 51 would not permit an action in collective self-defense, because Donetsk and Luhansk are not UN member states. Indeed, they do not even qualify as states under international law, despite their purported secession from Ukraine and Russia’s recognition of them as independent.

Putin’s statements that Ukraine was committing “genocide” against Russians in Donetsk and Luhansk, although a thinly veiled effort to justify Russia’s use of force in the language of international law, are also not supported by the facts and would not, in any case, give Russia a right to launch an invasion of Ukraine. The Genocide Convention defines genocide as certain, specified actions intended to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. There is no evidence that Ukraine engaged in any of the defined actions and certainly no evidence of an intent to destroy in whole or in part any group in eastern Ukraine. Even if the Ukrainian government had committed human rights abuses against Russians in eastern Ukraine, neither the Genocide Convention nor the UN Charter authorizes convention parties or UN member states to use force to remedy acts of genocide or serious human rights abuses.

 

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