Trudeau Announcement

[suds]

Another reason to get a jump start on this is that the cost of resources to build infrastructure will likely sky rocket at some point when demand increases and resources are harder to find and more costly to extract. It took over 100 years to build the infrastructure for fossil fuels that we have today when money for such projects was relatively cheap and available. Now it's going to cost more and we don't have 100 years to build it.

Edited November 4, 2024 by suds

[herbie]

56 minutes ago, suds said:

So high speed rail is such a priority to yo

No it's not, there is NO transit where I live. No train, no bus, no taxi, no Uber just your own car. But Toronto-Quebec there are millions that could use it, as there are many Edmonton-Calgary. Makes a hell of a lot more common sense than by planes, and ridership would be a hell of a lot more than on the snail trains that there are now. And we all know it was needed yesterday.
And the solution to build things needed yesterday is not to obstruct them with more delaying and waiting for things that will take as long as possible to do first.

F*cking sick of bullshit that takes decades, changes priorities every 4 years with f8cking different govts and creates it's own massive overruns just by dilly-dallying and flapping gums over champagne and lobster lunch meetings.
Say what you want about Elon Musk being an arsehole but he didn't sit in boardrooms with his thumb up his ass deciding if PayPal, Tesla, StarLink or SpaceX were 'cost effective', he DID them. While NASA bummed rides on Russian rockets, GM & Ford delayed, lobbied, denied, built the stupidest forms of EVs to enable self fulfilling failures, he DID it and made billions.

You can spend you life finding reasons not to, or you can DO things. Your choice,

[Nefarious Banana]

If I had a million dollars, I'd buy you a K car, a nice reliant automobile . . .

[WestCanMan]

Why is Trudeau offering these things to Canadians when there are people in other countries who don't have them yet? It must be an election year. 

[CdnFox]

51 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

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  17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You.... ahh...  you know that both edmonton AND calgary are in canada right?

 

 

Not you are just being an dishonest.

I swear to god they are in canada! I wouldn't lie to you about that  

 

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The Windsor-Quebec City corridor has a population of roughly 22 million people in the vicinity, which would be one of the most densely populated areas of North America, probably only eclipsed by the Washington-NYC-Boston corridor, and the corridor from LA to San Francisco Bay.

So make the case.  Lets see the actual  numbers showing anticipated ridership, economic benefits and the costs. 

Haven't got it have you.  You tried to come up with some population numbers and hoped that would be good enough. 

Sigh.  This is why we can't have nice things.

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The Alberta corridor would only be 350 km, `1/3 of the distance of the Windsor-Quebec corridor, serving 4 million people. It is almost like you do not have a brain in your skull. 

So what's the daily ridership? It will cost tens if not hundreds of billions to build so show me the numbers to say it's going to be justified.

The number of people living in those areas, the density, is utterly in painfully irrelevant if none of them have an interest in moving between the two cities on a regular basis. Lest see the research for projected use. 

You make the stupidest statements you obviously haven't got a brain in your head and you get mad when other people look at you and say what you're saying doesn't make sense.

You're an !diot

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The old "I can't disprove anything you said, so I am just going to argue disingenuously' method. 

Talking about yourself I take it

 

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I am tempted to place you on ignore again, since you never substantiate your arguments with sources or facts.  

You are the one that would have to provide the facts you loser! God you are so insanely stupid you make a statement that something is a good idea and you're mad that somebody else didn't provide the numbers to prove your right. The duty is on you to prove that you're right and that it is a viable project

Go and put me on ignore if you like, I couldn't care less. You are a  brain dead Chihuahua that brings absolutely nothing to the conversation. You should be thankful people like me even talk to you instead of scooping you up and throwing you in a bin like the rest of the turds. 

There is absolutely no business case for a high-speed train between Calgary and Edmonton and I certainly haven't seen one for the Toronto Montreal Corridor either. But somehow you want that to be my fault and the fact that you can't demonstrate a good reason to do it is a reason to block me

Honestly just put me on ignore you useless leftist tard.  If you flee and hide from all the smart people maybe you can convince yourself you're not dumber than a bowling ball. 

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7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

II am just going to write a whole bunch of paragraphs to seem intelligent, when I am not really sure what I am talking about.

Finally, you are opening up about things.

[CdnFox]

34 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I'm sorry for being so dishonest and lying all along. If you want the truth, i've always felt like a stupid person and i'm really envious of your higher intelligence. So i lash out in anger when i should be learning to better myself. 

well....  try your best in the future kid.   

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12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I voted for Kamala. I was paid by the Russians to spread misinformation on this forum, but the contract runs out tomorrow at midnight, and I want to repent for my transgressions, and to be a loyal citizen of North America.

Excellent.

Edited November 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I'm so pathetic that the only way i can win an argument is to fake-quote other people and pretend they said something i can argue with. That's literally how pathetic i've become (sob!) i'm so damaged that this is all i've got left!

I know.  I know. 

[Legato]

On 11/3/2024 at 8:57 PM, DUI_Offender said:

https://transweb.sjsu.edu/sites/default/files/2255-Cohen-Economic-Impacts-HSR.pdf

Implementing high-speed rail (HSR) will provide Americans with more transportation choices. It will also make sure that America remains an economic engine, and meets the environmental and energy challenges of this century.

Investing in high-speed rail:

• Creates Jobs:
  Building high-speed rail will create hundreds of thousands of jobs.  Every $1 billion in investment creates 24,000 jobs. These are highly skilled jobs that will revitalize the domestic rail industries supplying transportation products and services. Many additional jobs are created through the commerce fostered through the economic activity and development which they spark.
• Increases Economic Activity:
  Every $1 invested creates $4 in economic benefits. Upgrading passenger operations on newly revitalized tracks, bridges and rights of way is spurring business productivity along corridors.  The rail services will connect America’s economically vital mega-regions and help keep them mobile, productive, efficient and internationally competitive.
• Reduces Congestion and Boosts Productivity:
  Congestion on our nation’s roads costs $140 billion in lost time and productivity.  The U.S. population is projected to grow by another 100 million people in the next 40 years. The population growth is creating mega-regions that will not prosper unless they can be freed from the stranglehold of highway and airport congestion. At the same time, the United States cannot build enough highway capacity or airport runways to meet demand.
• Reduces the Nation’s Dependence on Foreign Oil: 
  Implementing high-speed rail will keep billions of dollars in the U.S. economy by decreasing the amount of oil that the U.S. consumes.    According to the International Association of Railways (UIC), high-speed rail is eight times more energy efficient than airplanes and four times more efficient than automobile use. It will also decrease greenhouse gas emissions and improve air quality.
• Expands Travel Choices and Improves Mobility:
  High-speed rail can deliver people from one downtown to another as fast as or faster than air travel.  The addition of HSR as an integrated part of America’s transportation system will help airports work better and highways work better. It will also expand options for citizens in rural and small urban communities with increased transfer points and feeder services that connect with new HSR corridors.

source; https://www.apta.com/research-technical-resources/high-speed-passenger-rail/benefits-of-high-speed-rail-for-the-united-states/

 

[Nefarious Banana]

Trudeau/Freeland . . . brother/sister combo  vs  Donald Trump.  Let the sad comedy begin.  Popcorn anyone?

[blackbird]

How are all these endless promises to spend, spend, spend by Trudeau going to solve the housing crisis, high cost of food, failing health care system and dysfunctional justice system of catch and release?  They are not going to solve them.  Trudeau will just put Canadians further into debt which the young people will have to pay for.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

How are all these endless promises to spend, spend, spend by Trudeau going to solve the housing crisis, high cost of food, failing health care system and dysfunctional justice system of catch and release?  They are not going to solve them.  Trudeau will just put Canadians further into debt which the young people will have to pay for.

They will actually make them worse. Gov't spending drives up inflation