You can, in fact, yell "fire" in a crowded theater

[West]

Not saying it's a good idea. 

But the Marxists try to expand their stranglehold on speech through citing this non existing law. 

The nonsense about "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" was overturned in the 1960s

https://www.whalenlawoffice.com/blog/legal-mythbusting-series-yelling-fire-in-a-crowded-theater/

So Tampon lied during the debate. 

Edited October 2, 2024 by West

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, West said:

Not saying it's a good idea. 

But the Marxists try to expand their stranglehold on speech through citing this non existing law. 

The nonsense about "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" was overturned in the 1960s

https://www.whalenlawoffice.com/blog/legal-mythbusting-series-yelling-fire-in-a-crowded-theater/

So Tampon lied during the debate. 

Interesting that you refer to Brandeburg v Ohio in 1969, in which the SCOTUS ruled:

"the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

For example, lying to a large crowd of people by telling them the election was stolen, and that if the false results put the other candidate in office it will “destroy America” and that they should “march down to the Capitol” to “stop the steal,” and the crowd proceeds to march to the Capitol and, in the words of the Supreme Court, “imminent lawless action” ensures… the First Amendment does not protect that.  
 

Second, “(falsely) yelling fire in a crowded theater” was not the actual ruling, it was a dictum, and Brandenburg did not overturn the concept.  You can tell fire in a crowded theater… if the theater is on fire, or if you think it’s on fire.  But can you pull a fire alarm on a building that’s not on fire? No. Can you stand up in the middle of a Broadway show and start screaming “The building is on fire!!! Run! Run for your lives!”… when you know the building is not on fire? No, you will be cited and if people are harmed in a stampede you will be criminally prosecuted and the producers of the show might file civil lawsuit for the financial harm you caused if you falsely yelled “Fire” during a performance.  

Edited October 2, 2024 by Rebound

[West]

50 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Interesting that you refer to Brandeburg v Ohio in 1969, in which the SCOTUS ruled:

"the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

For example, lying to a large crowd of people by telling them the election was stolen, and that if the false results put the other candidate in office it will “destroy America” and that they should “march down to the Capitol” to “stop the steal,” and the crowd proceeds to march to the Capitol and, in the words of the Supreme Court, “imminent lawless action” ensures… the First Amendment does not protect that.  
 

Second, “(falsely) yelling fire in a crowded theater” was not the actual ruling, it was a dictum, and Brandenburg did not overturn the concept.  You can tell fire in a crowded theater… if the theater is on fire, or if you think it’s on fire.  But can you pull a fire alarm on a building that’s not on fire? No. Can you stand up in the middle of a Broadway show and start screaming “The building is on fire!!! Run! Run for your lives!”… when you know the building is not on fire? No, you will be cited and if people are harmed in a stampede you will be criminally prosecuted and the producers of the show might file civil lawsuit for the financial harm you caused if you falsely yelled “Fire” during a performance.  

What about expressing disapproval with the governments covid 19 policies? 

Expressing an opinion that Democrats would destroy America, which is exactly what appears to have happened, isn't a crime. Lefties just didn't like it so therefore they use irrelevant nonsense to target their political opponents. 

Also, giving a speech at a rally where you tell people to "peacefully and patriotically" protest isn't illegal. 

 

Edited October 2, 2024 by West

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, West said:

What about expressing disapproval with the governments covid 19 policies? 

Expressing an opinion that Democrats would destroy America, which is exactly what appears to have happened, isn't a crime. Lefties just didn't like it so therefore they use irrelevant nonsense to target their political opponents. 

Also, giving a speech at a rally where you tell people to "peacefully and patriotically" protest isn't illegal. 

You are STILL spouting the Trump DOUBLE TALK dogma as if he said NOTHING ELSE.

You KNOW that is a LIE, and yet you KEEP LYING. 🤮

[West]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You are STILL spouting the Trump DOUBLE TALK dogma as if he said NOTHING ELSE.

You KNOW that is a LIE, and yet you KEEP LYING. 🤮

I don't speak left wing. I get you are brainwashed to believe that Donnie is bad tho

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, West said:

I don't speak left wing. I get you are brainwashed to believe that Donnie is bad tho

Do you REALLY NOT UNDERSTAND the entirety of what Trump said?

Is that MAGA CULT deafness contagious? 

Do you even know what double talk means? LMAO

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

 

For example, lying to a large crowd of people by telling them the election was stolen, and that if the false results put the other candidate in office it will “destroy America” and that they should “march down to the Capitol” to “stop the steal,”

With "peaceful protest"  or words to that effec as i recall.   

So does that mean when the democrats say that "Trump is hitler and if he wins that will be the last election and we need to do anything to stop him", that THEY are guilty of attempted murder?

Pretty nice little double standard you've got going there  

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Do you REALLY NOT UNDERSTAND the entirety of what Trump said?

Is that MAGA CULT deafness contagious? 

Do you even know what double talk means? LMAO

We understand that you don't care about the truth. All you care about is your ROS LIES and that trump bad. 

 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

All you care about is your ROS LIES and that trump bad. 

All you care about is being told you're right. 

Well, you're right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stupid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can't believe you scrolled down to here. You literally made it out, and there were millions of sperm o_O

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

All you care about is being told you're right. 

Well, you're right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stupid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can't believe you scrolled down to here. You literally made it out, and there were millions of sperm o_O

Why would i be right about something stupid? 

And why woudln't you expect me to scroll to the bottom?  That's where the reply section is   Literally everyone who replies is going to have to scroll down until the page fills up.   

LOL  - no wonder you're so ashamed you're asking to have your account deleted  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Why would i be right about something stupid? 

Thats something you should ask yourself, daily.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Thats something you should ask yourself, daily.

Well i suppose i'm right about you all the time and YOU"RE pretty stupid  

As to asking myself why .... honestly you're just not important enough to give it that much thought 

[Matthew]

9 hours ago, West said:

The nonsense about "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" was overturned in the 1960s

Hilarious lack of understanding of the legal concept and history you're attempting to comment upon.

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Hilarious lack of understanding of the legal concept and history you're attempting to comment upon.

Ahhh no.  This has been commented on by many experts and a simple search will prove that the article's claim is entirely correct and people misunderstood the quote.  This is realatively common knowledge. 

Why not actually read a bit before making statements  that demonstrate your own lack of undrerstanding?

[Guest]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

This has been commented on by many experts

No cites.

Kind like "sources say", or "I know people who.."

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

This is realatively common knowledge. 

Notice how when you can't demonstrate what you say, its common knowledge. Kind of like Trumps "nobody knows", which translates to him just finding out something, or in your case--you doing a quick Google search without actually knowing a thing about the subject. 🤡

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why not actually read a bit 

Why read, you will do a Google search, claim knowing this, forever and enlightening us peasants with your valuable input?

[Rebound]

18 hours ago, West said:

What about expressing disapproval with the governments covid 19 policies? 

Expressing an opinion that Democrats would destroy America, which is exactly what appears to have happened, isn't a crime. Lefties just didn't like it so therefore they use irrelevant nonsense to target their political opponents. 

Also, giving a speech at a rally where you tell people to "peacefully and patriotically" protest isn't illegal. 

 

But the government did not prosecute people for expressing disapproval of their Covid policies. Nobody was jailed or fined over it.

[Rebound]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ahhh no.  This has been commented on by many experts and a simple search will prove that the article's claim is entirely correct and people misunderstood the quote.  This is realatively common knowledge. 

Why not actually read a bit before making statements  that demonstrate your own lack of undrerstanding?

Those "experts" are either incorrect, or you do not understand them. 

For example, here's Massachusetts law:

"Section 13. Whoever, without reasonable cause, by outcry or the ringing of bells, or otherwise, makes or circulates or causes to be made or circulated a false alarm of fire shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars, or by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction."
 

 

[Nationalist]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

You are STILL spouting the Trump DOUBLE TALK dogma as if he said NOTHING ELSE.

You KNOW that is a LIE, and yet you KEEP LYING. 🤮

"OH...Dog whistle! Dog whistle! Orangemanbad used a Dog whistle!"

Lol...pathetic. 

[West]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

But the government did not prosecute people for expressing disapproval of their Covid policies. Nobody was jailed or fined over it.

Lol.. tell that to some people who were harassed by the Stasi over masks 

[West]

12 hours ago, Matthew said:

Hilarious lack of understanding of the legal concept and history you're attempting to comment upon.

I've provided a link to a law office jackass

[Yakuda]

21 hours ago, Rebound said:

Interesting that you refer to Brandeburg v Ohio in 1969, in which the SCOTUS ruled:

"the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

For example, lying to a large crowd of people by telling them the election was stolen, and that if the false results put the other candidate in office it will “destroy America” and that they should “march down to the Capitol” to “stop the steal,” and the crowd proceeds to march to the Capitol and, in the words of the Supreme Court, “imminent lawless action” ensures… the First Amendment does not protect that.  
 

Second, “(falsely) yelling fire in a crowded theater” was not the actual ruling, it was a dictum, and Brandenburg did not overturn the concept.  You can tell fire in a crowded theater… if the theater is on fire, or if you think it’s on fire.  But can you pull a fire alarm on a building that’s not on fire? No. Can you stand up in the middle of a Broadway show and start screaming “The building is on fire!!! Run! Run for your lives!”… when you know the building is not on fire? No, you will be cited and if people are harmed in a stampede you will be criminally prosecuted and the producers of the show might file civil lawsuit for the financial harm you caused if you falsely yelled “Fire” during a performance.  

So then it's not ok to incite assassination attempts on political opponents by calling  them "an existential threat to America" for 8 years? I bet none of the people who used that phrase will be punished huh? You people are dimwitted ldiots. 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

"OH...Dog whistle! Dog whistle! Orangemanbad used a Dog whistle!"

Lol...pathetic. 

No he USED A BULLHORN. Duh

Trouble is, you are BLIND to RESULTS and LACK of ACTION to remediate those results.. 🤮

Why do you believe Trump is promising pardons for hooligans who fought with the police, Mr. CRIMINAL?

[robosmith]

13 minutes ago, West said:

Lol.. tell that to some people who were harassed by the Stasi over masks 

You mean the people who didn't want to get a life threatening illness from YOUR CARELESSNESS?

How dare they! How dare you!

[robosmith]

7 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

So then it's not ok to incite assassination attempts on political opponents by calling  them "an existential threat to America" for 8 years? I bet none of the people who used that phrase will be punished huh? You people are dimwitted ldiots. 

It IS ok when they have demonstrated they ARE an existential threat to democracy.

Just like IT IS ok to shout "FIRE" when there IS a fire. Duh

You are the dimwit here.

[West]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You mean the people who didn't want to get a life threatening illness from YOUR CARELESSNESS?

How dare they! How dare you!

Lol.. poor you

[Yakuda]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It IS ok when they have demonstrated they ARE an existential threat to democracy.

Just like IT IS ok to shout "FIRE" when there IS a fire. Duh

You are the dimwit here.

You only know when to pee when a urologist tells you to so I dont trust you to decide who and who is not an existential threat to America. I must say though I do like how you "people" think things are true simply by your declaring them so.