J.D. Vance | The Universities are the Enemy

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

Vance told people to "wake up" to the dangers of democracy because its "ineffectual" at achieving right wing hegemony.

Typical of you right wing extremists to believe ONLY your answers matter. 🤮

Oh get a grip of your little self. Vance said nothing of the sort.

[Fluffypants]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You are listening to Vance and FOS LIES, so your "talking" is misinformed.

When did you go to school?

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

You're an admitted culture warrior, so I expect that you see the value in shutting down the universities and jailing the profs.

No, I see the value in teaching. Not indoctrinating thousands of revolutionary little freaks.

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

 

Once accepted into medical school, students encounter far less rigorous training than in previous eras. Citing equity goals, many medical schools have moved from issuing grades to pass/fail assessments. A longtime educator himself, Goldfarb is concerned that "the science content of student education has been dramatically reduced. So has the range of clinical experience," which has "diminished the practical value of medical education." What are they learning instead? As Goldfarb describes, "Researchers at the University of Oregon, writing in the journal Academic Medicine in 2021, surveyed the curricula of 122 medical schools and found that more than half had a required course that covered elements of advocacy." The goal of such classes is "clearly political, not medical."

Humanities majors might wince when Goldfarb says, "It is one thing for the Princeton classics department to abandon its Latin requirement for classics majors. It is quite another for Harvard Med to cut training time in biochemistry and pharmacology for future doctors. After all, no one dies if the classics major cannot conjugate morior." 

https://freebeacon.com/culture/woke-medicine-a-prescription-for-disaster/

The campaign for diversity is long running and has some value, yet the ideological extremism of the past two years has led medical schools to adopt dangerous strategies. To fight supposed "systemic racism," at least 40 institutions have dropped the requirement that all applicants take the MCAT, the gold-standard test that measures students' grasp of this life-saving profession. The University of Pennsylvania's Perelman School of Medicine, where I used to work, now waives the MCAT for a number of applicants each year, primarily from Historically Black Colleges and Universities.

It's also getting harder to gauge whether graduates are well prepared. The U.S. Medical Licensing Exam, which residencies rely on when picking trainees, recently abandoned objective grading for a pass/fail system, largely on diversity grounds. And calls are growing for post-graduate resident evaluations to be weakened as well. That would let potentially unqualified individuals enter medical practice and endanger patient well being.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/diversity-delusion-comes-health-care-opinion-1725699

https://freebeacon.com/campus/a-failed-medical-school-how-racial-preferences-supposedly-outlawed-in-california-have-persisted-at-ucla/

Okay, dumbahlt, I read that dumb article of yours and nowhere did it say that black medical students get an easier curriculum, easier testing, or easier grading than white students.  MORE PROOF THAT REPUBLICANS ARE LIARS. 

Edited October 1, 2024 by Rebound

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Oh get a grip of your little self. Vance said nothing of the sort.

He HAS said exactly that, elsewhere. Just cause you're IGNORANT does not mean it didn't happen.

IF you weren't a fool, you would understand that's an obvious extension of the rant in the video.

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No, I see the value in teaching. Not indoctrinating thousands of revolutionary little freaks.

IF "indoctrinating" is teaching anything you disagree with. 

But since you're a college dropout, you're resource bound to the shallow end of the pool. LMAO

6 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

When did you go to school?

Where did  you go to college?

[Fluffypants]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Where did  you go to college?

Mays Business School at Texas A&M University in College Station, Texas. Got my degree in accounting and i got my Aggie Ring as well.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Fluffypants

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

When did you go to school?

well he doesn't like to give specific dates but lets just say he majored in 'banging rocks together'

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

banging rocks together

Sounds like how you were conceived o_O

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Sounds like how you were conceived o_O

Sure Kid 😊

🍿🍿🍿 [munch munch] 🍿🍿🍿

[Fluffypants]

35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

well he doesn't like to give specific dates but lets just say he majored in 'banging rocks together'

His dissertation was how only certain rocks when banged together make pretty lights and sometime those pretty lights make fire.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Fluffypants said:

His dissertation was how only certain rocks when banged together make pretty lights and sometime those pretty lights make fire.

You'd THINK that, but in reality he just like how it sounded. His dissertation was actually on rock related injuries in the workplace if you didn't watch how you hold them when you're doing it.  He proposed small little safety railings be glued on to the rocks. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

He HAS said exactly that, elsewhere. Just cause you're IGNORANT does not mean it didn't happen.

IF you weren't a fool, you would understand that's an obvious extension of the rant in the video.

An obvious extension?

Pfft...lying again eh?

58 minutes ago, robosmith said:

IF "indoctrinating" is teaching anything you disagree with. 

But since you're a college dropout, you're resource bound to the shallow end of the pool. LMAO

Where did  you go to college?

Lol...ok poster girly.

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Okay, dumbahlt, I read that dumb article of yours and nowhere did it say that black medical students get an easier curriculum, easier testing, or easier grading than white students.  MORE PROOF THAT REPUBLICANS ARE LIARS. 

I'm not a Republican, you stupid twat. I'm a conservative. You probably find that even scarier. And I never claimed that black students get an easier curriculum or testing or grading. I said the whole curriculum and testing system was being dumbed down so that lower-quality black candidates can not only make it in but pass through. But evidently your IQ is so low you can't understand what you've supposedly read.

Edited October 1, 2024 by I am Groot

[CdnFox]

Just now, Nationalist said:

An obvious extension?

Pfft...lying again eh?

It is!!  Aboslutely!!! You can tell, all you have to do is take what he said out of context, twist its' meaning, add some things and then extrapolate what you want it to mean from the original and it's PLAIN as DAY!!!

(helps if you already have a concussion.)

Don't listen to his ROS LIES! (robosmith oral shit)

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

In the US, clearly blacks. AFAIK, the Irish didn't immigrate enmasse until the potato famine.

Irish have a far longer history of being oppressed. If you want to restrict it to just the US then Indians would win that title.

[I am Groot]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

You forgot to post ^this "science definition."

Get a dictionary.

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

In fact it can, due to societal SUPPRESSION.

Yeah no.

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Depends on the POWER behind the speaker. Some unarmed nutcase on a street corner does no harm.

It does harm if anyone listening decides to carry it out. It does harm if there are hundreds of such people on street corners shouting it out. 

 

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

What about calling for the death of Palestinian "terrorists" who were victims of Zionist terrorism?

Terrorists should always be killed. There's nothing either illegal or immoral about it.

But you're apparently an active Jew hater, so I doubt you know much about morality.

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

And that fact of which you're ignorant is still fact. Teaching fact cures ignorance.

Hasn't helped you.

[I am Groot]

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

You did not prove that black medical students get easier tests. 

I didn't say they were. I said the curriculum itself and the testing was being dumbed down so more blacks could pass.

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

What’s more… yes, many people on your side are complaining about teaching America’s history of slavery.

Not on my side. You might mean Republicans, but I assure you they're not on my side.

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

 

They’re removing books from school libraries which mention slavery.

And your side is removing books from school libraries because they say bad words or portray people as they were in days past.

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

They don’t want it taught, because for some reason they think it makes white children feel ashamed of themselve

Silly them. Don't they realize it's the job of teachers to teach white children to feel ashamed of themselves, the dirty little oppressors.

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

s. Pretty stupld, but conservatives are stupld people, I suppose. 

Conservatives are smart, responsible people. Progressives are shrill, ideological zealots with little connection to reality.

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

The fact that Charlie Manson was white doesn’t make me feel ashamed of being white. No reason why it should. 

I agree. But you weren't divided by race in your class and then had your teacher say you and your group were the privileged oppressors and the rest were your victims.

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

I’m all for killing terrorists.  

You have any particular type of terrorist in mind?

[I am Groot]

6 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

"Not a very good one"

Pure opinion and nothing more. 

Apparently you don't know what 'opinion' means. Perhaps you went to a very poor university. Or perhaps you got in on a diversity quota thing. But I suggest you look the word up.

6 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

I laugh at types like you. When I mention that my studies were mostly math and statistics and I ask how I was brainwashed..

I doubt people ever have much question about that given your behavior and views here.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Get a dictionary.

Because you don't know and therefore the rest of your post is PURE IGNORANCE.

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Yeah no.

Yeah, YES.

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

It does harm if anyone listening decides to carry it out. It does harm if there are hundreds of such people on street corners shouting it out. 

That is their responsibility. The nutcase on the corner has NO AGENCY over anyone.

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Terrorists should always be killed. There's nothing either illegal or immoral about it.

Then why should they be killed? That would be ILLEGAL and ^makes NO SENSE..

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

But you're apparently an active Jew hater, so I doubt you know much about morality.

What you fantasize about means NOTHING.

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Hasn't helped you.

Far more than you, cause I pay attention to FACTS.

Edited October 2, 2024 by robosmith

[Rebound]

12 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I'm not a Republican, you stupid twat. I'm a conservative. You probably find that even scarier. And I never claimed that black students get an easier curriculum or testing or grading. I said the whole curriculum and testing system was being dumbed down so that lower-quality black candidates can not only make it in but pass through. But evidently your IQ is so low you can't understand what you've supposedly read.

Oh? Here is a word-for-word quotation:

“Do you know that in the US some medical schools are reducing the requirements for nonwhite students to enter, and then dumbing down the curriculum so more of them can pass?“

To be even more clear, medical school curriculums are incredibly rigorous. It is extremely hard for anyone to get into medical school and even harder to graduate.  

[cannuck]

20 hours ago, Rebound said:

Thats completely false.  Specifically; they do not give black students different tests or grade them differently. It just isn’t true.  

spoken by someone with no experience with black students in US educational systems.

My very close friend and long time business partner in NYC (who happens to be black borne in Alabama) built his businesses in "underprivileged" areas such as the Bronx - with the intent of proving to the world that African Americans (in the '70s) could operate and staff a business as well as anyone else.  When the borough offered him a larger building (that he needed for one contract) it came with the "strong suggestion" that said office provide "qualified" candidates to meet his stated standards.   He required simply an HS diploma and physical ability to perform the tasks of the positions in question.  He was sent a few dozen people who were given training from staff at another location, but the day the trainees arrived at their work place, everything ground to a halt.  Those who were supposed to do procurement, inventory, shipping and receiving - ALL of whom had produced a HS diploma and were graduated by accredited public schools - NONE of them could read and write well enough to perform even the most basic functions.

Now in your defense: I could not say and doubt that a white student from the same schools would have been treated any differently - but from his experience and those of his children - there was and still is a very racial component in admission and grading in at least NY schools and post secondary institutions.

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Oh? Here is a word-for-word quotation:

“Do you know that in the US some medical schools are reducing the requirements for nonwhite students to enter, and then dumbing down the curriculum so more of them can pass?“

Is English your third language or something? Do you need to take remedial third-grade grammar? 

The cite I posted said exactly what I put above. Universities are lowering requirements for blacks to enter, and then dumbing down the curriculum because otherwise most of those unqualified blacks would fail.

 

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

To be even more clear, medical school curriculums are incredibly rigorous. It is extremely hard for anyone to get into medical school and even harder to graduate.  

Unless you're black. As the cite pointed out, 85% of black applicants are accepted.

[robosmith]

On 10/2/2024 at 7:08 AM, cannuck said:

spoken by someone with no experience with black students in US educational systems.

My very close friend and long time business partner in NYC (who happens to be black borne in Alabama) built his businesses in "underprivileged" areas such as the Bronx - with the intent of proving to the world that African Americans (in the '70s) could operate and staff a business as well as anyone else.  When the borough offered him a larger building (that he needed for one contract) it came with the "strong suggestion" that said office provide "qualified" candidates to meet his stated standards.   He required simply an HS diploma and physical ability to perform the tasks of the positions in question.  He was sent a few dozen people who were given training from staff at another location, but the day the trainees arrived at their work place, everything ground to a halt.  Those who were supposed to do procurement, inventory, shipping and receiving - ALL of whom had produced a HS diploma and were graduated by accredited public schools - NONE of them could read and write well enough to perform even the most basic functions.

Now in your defense: I could not say and doubt that a white student from the same schools would have been treated any differently - but from his experience and those of his children - there was and still is a very racial component in admission and grading in at least NY schools and post secondary institutions.

Do you understand ^this story has nothing to do with med schools' admission and curriculum?

[robosmith]

On 10/1/2024 at 4:19 PM, Nationalist said:

An obvious extension?

Pfft...lying again eh?

Not about YOUR IGNORANCE. Unlike you, I've seen OTHER videos showing very extreme things Vance has said.

Probably didn't show those on YOUR right wing propaganda sites. LMAO