Your thoughts on the next Federal Government.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Well the Bloc has threatened to pull its support by end of October so a no confidence vote in November is possible though not very likely but if so Canadians will not be happy if we have a Christmas election or even an early January one and this will work against opposition parties.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Well the Bloc has threatened to pull its support by end of October so a no confidence vote in November is possible though not very likely but if so Canadians will not be happy if we have a Christmas election or even an early January one and this will work against opposition parties.

In order for there to be election they would still need to be agreement from the NDP.

At the end of February 2025 Jagmeet will qualify for his pension. That pension is worth many many millions of dollars. Currently the CPC is pulling higher in his writing than he is. If he goes to an election and loses before February then all he gets is the money he's put into his pension back and gets nothing. If he waits till after February he gets millions and millions of dollars

What do you think the chances are of the MVP supporting and no confidence motion before February's end?

We will not be going to the polls till after February of next year and my guess would be they would make it about the budget so probably closer to April or may depending on when trudeau releases his budget. The conservatives will say it spends too much we want an election, the NDP will say it doesn't spend enough we want an election, and that will be there excuses

Edited October 3, 2024 by CdnFox

[Old Guy]

18 hours ago, August1991 said:

Disagree. Define "richest".

But not the issue of this thread.

 

I provided a list of the 50 richest countries, but here it is again.  You are free to disagree and BTW I was responding to Taxme but you are right we were both off the thread. If you were to read through the thread I think you would see the context.

Cheers

[CITIZEN_2015]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

In order for there to be election they would still need to be agreement from the NDP.

At the end of February 2025 Jagmeet will qualify for his pension. That pension is worth many many millions of dollars. Currently the CPC is pulling higher in his writing than he is. If he goes to an election and loses before February then all he gets is the money he's put into his pension back and gets nothing. If he waits till after February he gets millions and millions of dollars

What do you think the chances are of the MVP supporting and no confidence motion before February's end?

We will not be going to the polls till after February of next year and my guess would be they would make it about the budget so probably closer to April or may depending on when trudeau releases his budget. The conservatives will say it spends too much we want an election, the NDP will say it doesn't spend enough we want an election, and that will be there excuses

Yes this was my original post of this thread exactly echoing your post here on the timing of no confidence vote and election date, though you may not agree with the last part (minority conservative government).

On 9/24/2024 at 7:25 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

My thoughts. Trudeau government will be defeated in a non confidence vote in the spring of 2025. There will be  a Federal election in April or May of 2025 and a minority Conservative government will be elected which will last one to two years. Your thoughts if you care to share?

Edited October 4, 2024 by CITIZEN_2015

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Yes this was my original post of this thread exactly echoing your post here on the timing of no confidence vote and election date, though you may not agree with the last part (minority conservative government).

True, i do not agree with the last part, but only because my capacity for self delusion is firmly in the grasp of my sanity :P

[Guest]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

my capacity for self delusion

Is off the charts. 🤡

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Is off the charts. 🤡

Sure kid  

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure kid  

🤡

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

🤡

Sure kid  

🍿🍿🍿 [munch munch] 🍿🍿🍿

[taxme]

On 9/24/2024 at 4:25 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

My thoughts. Trudeau government will be defeated in a non confidence vote in the spring of 2025. There will be  a Federal election in April or May of 2025 and a minority Conservative government will be elected which will last one to two years. Your thoughts if you care to share?

I am pretty sure that the Conservative Party will win the next election with a majority. Right now, according to the polls,  the Conservative Party, if there were an election called today, the Conservative Party would win with a majority. 

We the Canadian people need and want change badly and we need to get desperately away from these liberals, socialists, communists and environmental wackos that have not done a dam thing for Canada in the last nine years. All they have done is to make us all poorer and destitute and flooded Canada millions of third world legal and illegal immigrants that have not done all that much to help Canada become great once again. 

All those new legal and illegal immigrants have done is cause inflation to rise, created a shortage of housing, almost bankrupt our medical and social services, more damage being done to our environment and infrastructure. Billions of our tax dollars have been blown and more dollars borrowed from the globalist banksters to hand over to those unwanted and unneeded new so called immigrants. When do home grown Canadians start to count and not the rest of the world? 🤔

[Queenmandy85]

Mr. Poilievre can afford to make a political issue out of the NDP leader's pension. Pierre has his pension and it is double or triple Mr. Singh's pension.

The CPC has just voted for a huge increase in the deficit as they crawled into bed with the separatists. It will be interesting to see how Pierre intends to pay for it when he is appointed Prime Minister. Having voted for the increase to the OAS, he is committed to it. 

[Queenmandy85]

6 minutes ago, taxme said:

We the Canadian people need and want change badly and we need to get desperately away from these liberals, socialists, communists

Just a correction...the last communist who sat in the House of Commons was Fred Rose when he was expelled in 1947. 

 

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Having voted for the increase to the OAS, he is committed to it. 

I suspect pivoting in the other direction once he's appointed will mean squat to his supporters, especially younger ones. There'll also be fewer seniors to matter in the next federal election to follow the one that destroys Trudeau.

This won't be like Harper and his broken income trust promise. It'll be more like Trump and his convictions in court - meh IOW.

[Queenmandy85]

32 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I suspect pivoting in the other direction once he's appointed will mean squat to his supporters, especially younger ones. There'll also be fewer seniors to matter in the next federal election to follow the one that destroys Trudeau.

This won't be like Harper and his broken income trust promise. It'll be more like Trump and his convictions in court - meh IOW.

Since all of the opposition parties voted for it, plus several Grits, Trudeau should implement it and let the CPC government pay for it. "It is the will of Parliament." 😁

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Mr. Poilievre can afford to make a political issue out of the NDP leader's pension. Pierre has his pension and it is double or triple Mr. Singh's pension.

 

Whether he can afford it or not the issue is it's true. But of course a liberal supporter like yourself doesn't want a close ally to be ridiculed for his greed. After all greed is what this entire liberal government since day one has been all about.

But I do love that you're attempting to sell the idea that the problem here isn't that jaggers refuses to do the right thing because he's holding out for his pension, the problem here is that someone who has served for 20 years already has one.

What a dishonest and disturbed little man you are

[taxme]

18 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Just a correction...the last communist who sat in the House of Commons was Fred Rose when he was expelled in 1947. 

 

Today, i do believe that our governments are full of communists, especially in the federal liberal party. All they have done is tried to eliminate as much freedom of speech and rights as they can. 

[PIK]

On 10/4/2024 at 8:04 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

Just a correction...the last communist who sat in the House of Commons was Fred Rose when he was expelled in 1947. 

 

Just googled him. Interesting story.

[eyeball]

On 10/4/2024 at 4:48 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

Mr. Poilievre can afford to make a political issue out of the NDP leader's pension. Pierre has his pension and it is double or triple Mr. Singh's pension.

The CPC has just voted for a huge increase in the deficit as they crawled into bed with the separatists. It will be interesting to see how Pierre intends to pay for it when he is appointed Prime Minister. Having voted for the increase to the OAS, he is committed to it. 

So the price to us to save the cost of Singh's pension will be $16 billion?

Well by us I don't mean me - I'll be on the receiving end of this largesse.

 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Well by us I don't mean me - I'll be on the receiving end of this largesse.

 

?? You're Jagmeet singh?!?!?

Actually that would explain a lot. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

Trudeau should step down to give Liberals a chance. No matter how great campaigner he might be the best he can put a dent in conservative support to prevent a majority conservative government but people will not forget that it was his immigration policy that created severe housing shortage and explosive prices so that most people having a good paying job but cannot afford to buy or rent and are accumulating debt. But if he is replaced, the new leader can claim he is his own guy and distant himself from Liberal's failed policies. They stand a chance to form a minority government at best.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Trudeau should step down to give Liberals a chance.

They're not going to have a chance. What they're worried about now is how badly they're going to lose

It's not easy to win seats back. The incumbent almost always has an advantage. That doesn't mean they're going to win but it means it's an uphill battle to fight back.

If the liberals walk away with 100 seats they will have lost and lost badly. But they still have a solid base to claw their way back. They will still probably get lots of donations and they can hope that the next time around they can hold the conservatives to a minority or even win

But if they lose and only get 50 seats, it makes it brutally hard to have any shot of winning the next time. At that point they're probably two or three elections away from winning again barring a very lucky stroke. Especially against Poilievre who is a very accomplished campaigner.

So they're thinking that maybe a different leader would help them lose less badly. And I am not sure at all that that is the case. It might go the other direction really fast and they could Kim Campbell themselves right into a crater that they never crawl out from.

 

[taxme]

On 9/24/2024 at 4:25 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

My thoughts. Trudeau government will be defeated in a non confidence vote in the spring of 2025. There will be  a Federal election in April or May of 2025 and a minority Conservative government will be elected which will last one to two years. Your thoughts if you care to share?

Where are you getting that idea that the conservative party will end up being a minority party? Right now, if there were an election held today, the Conservative party would win a majority. 

The sooner the better for an election. And if the Conservative party wants to stay in power for more than one or two years, then they MUST fight for lower taxes, downsize the size of government, and give us back our many freedoms that we have lost since covid. Those three alone should keep them in power for a very long time. Avoid scandals. Keep it clean. We the people need to get rid of this present day Marxist federal government off our backs. Works for me. 🤗

[taxme]

On 9/24/2024 at 10:31 PM, CdnFox said:

that's extremely plausible. Jagmeet, who actually is in danger of losing in his riding, will have his pension by then. He gets it in February. It's to the ndp's advantage to go before the final date on the budget will almost certainly give them something to pretend to be outraged about.

The fly in the ointment to your theory is the bloc. There is absolutely zero benefit to them to go to an election. They will want to stretch out their power as long and as far as they can. They will almost certainly use the time to squeeze what few concessions they can out of the liberals. Then they will force the Conservatives to commit to keeping whatever they get if they're elected and sell themselves as the saviors of Quebec.

For that reason I'm going to say it will probably go the whole distance and we'll see a fall election 2025. The block will almost certainly prop up the liberals unless the liberals refuse to give them anything. And the NDP in the conservatives can't take down the government unless the block says yes

Call it a 30% chance for a spring election and 70% chance for a fall election

Can Canada survive another year of this Marxist dictator buffoon in Ottawa until a fall election? The only one that can make this imbecile go away is Donald Trump. Hopefully, when Trump becomes the next President, he will make this imbecile cry in pain and make him beg for mercy. His Marxist agenda for Canada will come to an end and will be crushed by Trump. Trump will make this Marxist pay for his Marxist stupidity. Just saying. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Can Canada survive another year of this Marxist dictator buffoon in Ottawa until a fall election?

Yes, we can survive. You can survive open heart surgery as well but I wouldn't recommend it if you can avoid it

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The only one that can make this imbecile go away is Donald Trump. Hopefully, when Trump becomes the next President, he will make this imbecile cry in pain and make him beg for mercy. His Marxist agenda for Canada will come to an end and will be crushed by Trump. Trump will make this Marxist pay for his Marxist stupidity. Just saying. 

I doubt trump will even have time to think about him in the first year. He has a rather large pool of his own marxists and feral cultists to deal with and that will probably absorb most of his time for his first year or so. I'm afraid if we're going to deal with Justin it'll probably be up to us

[CITIZEN_2015]

18 hours ago, taxme said:

 

The sooner the better for an election. And if the Conservative party wants to stay in power for more than one or two years, then they MUST fight for lower taxes, downsize the size of government, and give us back our many freedoms that we have lost since covid. Those three alone should keep them in power for a very long time. Avoid scandals. Keep it clean. We the people need to get rid of this present day Marxist federal government off our backs. Works for me. 🤗

You forgot the most important one. They must stop immigration or reduce it to minimal. Stop immigration from Islamic countries, India/Pakistan and Africa. But I don't think they will do that.