CdnFox Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, Black Dog said: The NRA, like you and otehr gunf*ckers, want guns to be widely available and easily accessible to anyone and everyone, which is tantamount to the same thing. The Distilled Spirits Council of the United States (DISCUS), like you and otehr Drunkf*ckers wants booze to be widely avaialable and easily accessible to anyone and everyone which is tantamount to wanting people to be killed by drunk driving. (i left your spelling mistakes in, they nicely emphasis the drunk part ) Ya done being stupid yet? Quote An 18 year old American can't legally buy booze, but can buy an AR15 or a shotgun in most U.S. states. So if we make it so that 18 year olds can buy booze that'll make the gun laws ok? Quote Dealers are shielded from liability by the PLCAA, Nope. If they knowlingly sell to someone they shoudlnt' they can be sued, just the same as a bar that knowingly sells booze to someone they shouldn't. Gun shops that sold weapons trafficked into Washington, DC, sued by nation's capital and Maryland (citynews.ca) Ooopsie, you were wrong again. Three more strikes kiddo. You're looking dumber by the minute but feel free to continue if you like Quote
Black Dog Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 19 minutes ago, User said: Do you not get that the numbers of all mass shootings include those that take place in schools too? Which ones, specifically then? Quote You asked for evidence, I gave it to you. That site compiles a ton of examples of SRO's stopping school shootings. Anecdotes are not data and the data shows no conclusive evidence that SROs reduce crime among students or prevent mass shootings. There's lots of reasons for that: you can't measure something that doesn't happen and school shootings are comparatively rare. There's also the question of cost/benefit. Quote Firefights in hallways... as opposed to whatever slaughter the bad guy wants? Seriously, yours is such an absurdly ignorant position. You are more afraid of a firefight... so just let the bad guy kill as many as he wants to? Again, you dumbshit, I would rather people not have the means to walk into a school to try and kill a bunch of people at all. Not sure why you're too stupid to grasp the concept. Quote Do you want the police to sit outside and wait like Columbine too now, for fear of them going in to stop the bad guy and create a firefight? You mean like they did in Uvalde where they all cowered because they were afraid of being outgunned by a teenager with a battle rifle he purchased legally? Quote People like you have no damn clue about guns or tactics. Just pure fear of guns built on ignorance. Ah yes the common cry of the gunf*cker. Quote Again, there are more suicides in Japan... And again, there's cultural explanations for that, just as there are cultural explanations for Americans blowing their brains out. Quote Yours is also a bit of a sexist care for suicide too... not that you even understand that term or care. lol oh this should be good, do tell. 15 minutes ago, Five of swords said: The difference between white people and black people is dna. Nothing else is intrinsic. Riiight so everyone is exactly the same and the only explanations for any variance between different groups is genetics. Not education, socio-economic status or anything like that. God, Nazis are dumb. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Black Dog Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The Distilled Spirits Council of the United States (DISCUS), like you and otehr Drunkf*ckers wants booze to be widely avaialable and easily accessible to anyone and everyone which is tantamount to wanting people to be killed by drunk driving. (i left your spelling mistakes in, they nicely emphasis the drunk part ) Ya done being stupid yet? Pro tip: if you're going to try and drag someone for spelling mistakes, maybe don't put your own in. It is funny that you can't defend the gun lobby on its merits but have to play stupid whataboutism games. Quote Nope. If they knowlingly sell to someone they shoudlnt' they can be sued, just the same as a bar that knowingly sells booze to someone they shouldn't. Gun shops that sold weapons trafficked into Washington, DC, sued by nation's capital and Maryland (citynews.ca) Ooopsie, you were wrong again. Oh oh look at all those spelling mistakes. And I'm not wrong here, a gun store that sells someone a gun who isn't prohibited from owning one can't be sued if that person kills someone. A bar that sells a guy two beers and he kills someone could be. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
User Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 10 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Which ones, specifically then? Not interested in your dumb sea lioning routine. 10 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Anecdotes are not data and the data shows no conclusive evidence that SROs reduce crime among students or prevent mass shootings. There's lots of reasons for that: you can't measure something that doesn't happen and school shootings are comparatively rare. There's also the question of cost/benefit. You asked for evidence, I gave it to you. That site compiles a ton of examples of SRO's stopping school shootings. 11 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Again, you dumbshit, I would rather people not have the means to walk into a school to try and kill a bunch of people at all. Not sure why you're too stupid to grasp the concept. So, you want to ban all guns now? Oh yeah, that is a realistic solution. How about, in the meantime, while you are working on your wet dream fetish, we actually protect the kids. 12 minutes ago, Black Dog said: You mean like they did in Uvalde where they all cowered because they were afraid of being outgunned by a teenager with a battle rifle he purchased legally? Is that what you want? That is the question. That is what you are advocating for. So, you were glad that Uvdale police waiting outside while all those kids bled to death, you sick coward. 12 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Ah yes the common cry of the gunf*cker. Oh, good, you have a lot of experience being called out for the ignorant coward you are. 13 minutes ago, Black Dog said: And again, there's cultural explanations for that, just as there are cultural explanations for Americans blowing their brains out. *GASP* you mean, there are other explanations for suicide other than access to a gun? There may be hope for you yet. 13 minutes ago, Black Dog said: lol oh this should be good, do tell. Maybe you should educate yourself before talking about a subject. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Black Dog Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 (edited) 58 minutes ago, User said: So, you want to ban all guns now? Oh yeah, that is a realistic solution. Did I say that you dumbf*ck? This is why it's impossible to have a rational discussion with ammosexuals, the slightest suggestion of sensible gun laws and they start crying and shitting themselves that you want to take their guns away. Quote How about, in the meantime, while you are working on your wet dream fetish, we actually protect the kids. By ensuring that people who want to kill them can easily acquire the means to do so? Quote Is that what you want? That is the question. That is what you are advocating for. No, you're the guy who wants a mentally ill 18 year old to be free to buy a battle rifle and use it to kill a bunch of toddlers. That's all you: own it. Quote So, you were glad that Uvdale police waiting outside while all those kids bled to death, you sick coward. You're the one arguing that we need more good guys with guns, well there were more than 200 of them at Uvalde, why didn't they stop the killer sooner? Kinda f*cks up your theory doesn't it. Quote Oh, good, you have a lot of experience being called out for the ignorant coward you are. No you John Wick wannabe losers always act like you have to have extensive first hand knowledge of guns to have an opinion and it's simply not true. Quote *GASP* you mean, there are other explanations for suicide other than access to a gun? Are you retarded? Seriously, what are you even arguing against because you don't seem to know yourself. Quote Maybe you should educate yourself before talking about a subject. I'm tryna figure out how me wanting to reduce suicides by gun (a method disproportionately used by men) makes me sexist, but i don't expect you have a coherent explanation because you're pretty stupid. You might actually be dumber than the literal Nazi here lol. Edited September 9 by Black Dog Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
CdnFox Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Pro tip: if you're going to try and drag someone for spelling mistakes, maybe don't put your own in. Specifically said i was leaving spelling mistakes in but... sure. I forgot comprehension wasn't your strong point And in fairness i guess it's not like you have ACTUAL arguments left Quote Oh oh look at all those spelling mistakes. Poor guy. Reduced to grammar nazi. Quote And I'm not wrong here, a gun store that sells someone a gun who isn't prohibited from owning one can't be sued if that person kills someone. A bar that sells a guy two beers and he kills someone could be. You're 100 percent wrong. In fact it's harder to sue the bar. No bar in the us has ever been sued for just serving someone 2 beers. So right off the bat that's just dense. Anyone who's of age and not visibly intoxicated can be served. Many states, but not all, have the so-called dram store regulations which require that servers stop serving to people who are obviously inebriated. Just as gun stores are prohibited from selling guns without confirming that the person is not prohibited. But the difference is that the gun store has to prove that they did do the background research to show that the person was not prohibited. Whereas the onus is on the accuser to prove that the Pub knowingly served to someone who was obviously visibly inebriated which is a much higher bar and burden of proof. And then there's liquor stores that don't have any restrictions along those lines in most places. Should they be sued if someone buys a mickey Of vodka, goes and drinks it in the parking lot and crashes on the way home? Your hypocrisy here is epic. Many more people die from booze but you're happily defending that while complaining about guns which as we just noted requires active efforts on the part of the gun store owner to verify the buyer is legit. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 Just now, CdnFox said: Specifically said i was leaving spelling mistakes in but... sure. I forgot comprehension wasn't your strong point And in fairness i guess it's not like you have ACTUAL arguments left You made a spelling mistake in telling me you were leaving in the spelling mistakes, stupid. Quote Poor guy. Reduced to grammar nazi. You literally started it, stupid. Quote No bar in the us has ever been sued for just serving someone 2 beers. So right off the bat that's just dense. Anyone who's of age and not visibly intoxicated can be served. If someone got drunk off two beers and went and killed someone, the bar could be sued, do you not comprehend that? Quote Many states, but not all, have the so-called dram store regulations which require that servers stop serving to people who are obviously inebriated. Just as gun stores are prohibited from selling guns without confirming that the person is not prohibited. Not sure why your continuing to blather about this, the issue is gun shops are protected by law from liability in ways bars are not. Quote Your hypocrisy here is epic. Many more people die from booze but you're happily defending that while complaining about guns which as we just noted requires active efforts on the part of the gun store owner to verify the buyer is legit. Whataboutism is not an argument. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
User Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Did I say that you dumbf*ck? This is why it's impossible to have a rational discussion with ammosexuals, the slightest suggestion of sensible gun laws and they start crying and shitting themselves that you want to take their guns away. Yes, that is what you said. "I would rather people not have the means to walk into a school to try and kill a bunch of people at all." 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: By ensuring that people who want to kill them can easily acquire the means to do so? You seem like the fragile liberal type that might die if you got pushed too hard... no one has to easily acquire the means to do that... The point being, you can't possibly stop all bad people from being able to "easily acquire the means" to harm all you delicate liberal types. So, we protect you. 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: No, you're the guy who wants a mentally ill 18 year old to be free to buy a battle rifle and use it to kill a bunch of toddlers. That's all you: own it. You said you are more afraid of shootouts... what happens when those officers at Uvdale enter the school to stop the bad guy? Shootout. So, you are the coward who wants to hide outside while you wait for the bad guy to run out of ammo... or fall asleep, or kill themselves, only AFTER all the kids are dead. 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: No you John Wick wannabe losers always act like you have to have extensive first hand knowledge of guns to have an opinion and it's simply not true. As opposed to your wanting to be a coward? LOL Don't worry, I fully believe you have all the first-hand knowledge of being one. I won't challenge you there. 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Are you retarded? Seriously, what are you even arguing against because you don't seem to know yourself. Your stupid argument about guns and suicides. 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: I'm tryna figure out how me wanting to reduce suicides by gun (a method disproportionately used by men) makes me sexist, but i don't expect you have a coherent explanation because you're pretty stupid. You might actually be dumber than the literal Nazi here lol. You don't give a shit about women/girls who hang themselves. All you care about is hating guns. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
CdnFox Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 44 minutes ago, Black Dog said: You made a spelling mistake in telling me you were leaving in the spelling mistakes, stupid. Yeah. Because you're drunk. Go read it again doorknob holy crap, it's like explaining a cartoon to a child. Quote You literally started it, stupid. Nope, i made fun of the fact you sounded drunk. You're the grammar nazi Quote If someone got drunk off two beers and went and killed someone, the bar could be sued, do you not comprehend that? That is not true. It's only an issue if they WERE ALREAYD VISIBLY INTOXICATED BEFORE they were sold the beers. Go ahead - show me the court case where someone walked in, bought two beers , got drunk and the pub was sued. Never happened in history. Quote Not sure why your continuing to blather about this, the issue is gun shops are protected by law from liability in ways bars are not. Nope, you're just wrong Quote Whataboutism is not an argument. Oh look, you found something new to be wrong about! How cute This isnt what aboutism. Sorry. What aboutism is where you try to say that one thing should be acceptable because another completely different and unrelated thing happened which is also morally wrong. What I'm pointing out is that you are treating two completely similar things In wildly different fashions. We're talking about two objects which are misused to cause significant death and destruction but One you are perfectly fine with and the other you are deeply enraged about. So that would be hypocrisy. What we're looking at is hypocrisy. Specifically your hypocrisy. When you compare two things that are the same it's not 'whataboutism' I hope you're making these posts in an elevator, you're just wrong on so many levels Quote
Black Dog Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, User said: Yes, that is what you said. "I would rather people not have the means to walk into a school to try and kill a bunch of people at all." Yes, and? Quote You seem like the fragile liberal type that might die if you got pushed too hard... no one has to easily acquire the means to do that... Post physique, tough guy. Quote The point being, you can't possibly stop all bad people from being able to "easily acquire the means" to harm all you delicate liberal types. So, we protect you. You aren't doing shit, but that aside, it's wild that you're so in love with guns that you can't even conceptualize how preventing a disturbed teenager from being able to buy a battle rifle might prevent them from shooting up a school. Quote You said you are more afraid of shootouts... what happens when those officers at Uvdale enter the school to stop the bad guy? Shootout. Oh look you're lying, what a surprise. What I actually said was this when I was talking about how much you love seeing kids get shot: "You don't give a shit how many kids have to die because you love guns and think every wannabe Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold should have unfettered access to firearms. You'd rather have more firefights in school hallways than simply preventing these psychos from getting their hands on weapons to begin with." Quote So, you are the coward who wants to hide outside while you wait for the bad guy to run out of ammo... or fall asleep, or kill themselves, only AFTER all the kids are dead. No, you're thinking of all the "good guys with the guns" who sat around with their thumbs up their asses again. Quote Your stupid argument about guns and suicides. You don't give a shit about women/girls who hang themselves. All you care about is hating guns. American men are almost 4 times more likely to die by suicide than women despite women attempting suicide nearly twice as much and I bet even an absolute shit-for-brains like you will be able to puzzle out why that is, ideally through first hand experience. Edited September 9 by Black Dog Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Black Dog Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 31 minutes ago, CdnFox said: This isnt what aboutism. Sorry. What aboutism is where you try to say that one thing should be acceptable because another completely different and unrelated thing happened which is also morally wrong. Thats not what whataboutism is, mor0n. Definition 1: Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about....?") is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense against the original accusation. Quote What I'm pointing out is that you are treating two completely similar things In wildly different fashions. We're talking about two objects which are misused to cause significant death and destruction but One you are perfectly fine with and the other you are deeply enraged about. And here's a different fallacy, that of the strawman. No one is fine with drunk driving so, your argument, if we can even call it that, is invalid. Quote So that would be hypocrisy. What we're looking at is hypocrisy. Specifically your hypocrisy. When you compare two things that are the same it's not 'whataboutism' Definition 2: Whataboutism, the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical or that the responder’s misbehavior is not unique or unprecedented. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
CdnFox Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Thats not what whataboutism is, mor0n. Definition 1: Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about....?") is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense against the original accusation. Definition 2: Whataboutism, the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Umm that's what i said you !diot LOLOLOL how are you THIS stupid Whataboutism is when you say " you did this thing" and i say "well YOU did THAT thing over there, so...." COMPARISON is when you take two similar things and look at them. YOUR claim is that guns should be banned because theys bad and dealth, I compared that to booze which is exactly the same, not necessary and death. So why would we treat one as evil and the other as acceptable? That is NOT whataboutism Like, at all!!! It's not whataboutism its' comparison and your hypocrisy LOL Geeez man, even with the dictionary you effted it up How do you brush your teeth without poking your eye out? Quote And here's a different fallacy, that of the strawman. No one is fine with drunk driving so, your argument, if we can even call it that, is invalid. LOL - that's the fallacy of the 'red herring'. Nobody said anyone was fine with drinking and driving. And nobody anywhere is fine with mass shootings. Neither of those things are on the table, so when you pretend they are you're just lying to try to switch the subject because you've lost The issue was that you hate guns because they're misused and people die , but booze is misused and even MORE people die from that. So if you are against gun sales why are you not against booze sales? Swing and a miss there kiddo. 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical Sorry kid Not all hypocrisy is 'whataboutism' You're still a complete hypocrite. And comparing two comparable things is absolutely a valid argument Quote
Black Dog Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: Umm that's what i said you !diot LOLOLOL how are you THIS stupid Whataboutism is when you say " you did this thing" and i say "well YOU did THAT thing over there, so...." COMPARISON is when you take two similar things and look at them. YOUR claim is that guns should be banned because theys bad and dealth, I compared that to booze which is exactly the same, not necessary and death. So why would we treat one as evil and the other as acceptable? That is NOT whataboutism Like, at all!!! It's not whataboutism its' comparison and your hypocrisy LOL Geeez man, even with the dictionary you effted it up How do you brush your teeth without poking your eye out? LOL - that's the fallacy of the 'red herring'. Nobody said anyone was fine with drinking and driving. And nobody anywhere is fine with mass shootings. Neither of those things are on the table, so when you pretend they are you're just lying to try to switch the subject because you've lost The issue was that you hate guns because they're misused and people die , but booze is misused and even MORE people die from that. So if you are against gun sales why are you not against booze sales? Swing and a miss there kiddo. Sorry kid Not all hypocrisy is 'whataboutism' You're still a complete hypocrite. And comparing two comparable things is absolutely a valid argument You know I cooked you, you wouldn't be going Full Boomer otherwise. Arguing against gun control by invoking different and unrelated public health issues and not actually dealing with the arguments against guns is textbook whataboutery. Cope. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
User Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 18 hours ago, Black Dog said: Yes, and? You claimed otherwise... 18 hours ago, Black Dog said: Post physique, tough guy. I identify as this guy... 18 hours ago, Black Dog said: You aren't doing shit, but that aside, it's wild that you're so in love with guns that you can't even conceptualize how preventing a disturbed teenager from being able to buy a battle rifle might prevent them from shooting up a school. This kid didn't buy his rifle nor was that the only particular incident you are talking about... you want to focus on your fear and hate of guns instead of protecting kids. 18 hours ago, Black Dog said: No, you're thinking of all the "good guys with the guns" who sat around with their thumbs up their asses again. That is what you want. You want the good guys with guns to sit around. You want the little kids to die inside the school while they wait outside. 18 hours ago, Black Dog said: American men are almost 4 times more likely to die by suicide than women despite women attempting suicide nearly twice as much and I bet even an absolute shit-for-brains like you will be able to puzzle out why that is, ideally through first hand experience. So, all you are doing now is trying to justify your not giving a shit about women who kill themselves. 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
CdnFox Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 8 minutes ago, Black Dog said: You know I cooked you, you wouldn't be going Full Boomer otherwise. ROFLMAO!!! Kid, you've been wrong since the get go. The only person you 'cooked' was yourself You can't refute the research that shows the presence of guns doesn't correlate with murder or violence rates, you failed to explain why guns are horrible because they are often abused or misused but booze is fine even tho it's misused more often and results in more death, you didn't get the laws right and you couldn't even get "whataboutism" right. You could not have failed harder without a research grant to figure out how The tool is never the problem. Once you get past air guns, there are no 'safe' vs dangerous guns. All guns are dangerous. All kitchen knives are dangerous. Gasoline is dangerous. Motor vehicles are insanely dangerous. etc etc. The focus has to be on the person. Democrats either want insane gun bans AND a bunch of useless restrictions on people or just gun bans, and that prevents the conversation from procceeding. As you've proved 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 1 hour ago, User said: I identify as this guy... "PFfffft.... well those shorts look a little girly don't they?" He said from a very safe distance. 1 Quote
Black Dog Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 1 hour ago, User said: You claimed otherwise... You claimed I wanted to ban guns and your proof was a quote that doesn't mention banning guns. LOL, you dumbshit. Quote I identify as this guy Yeah just what I figured you useless fat f*ck. Quote This kid didn't buy his rifle nor was that the only particular incident you are talking about... you want to focus on your fear and hate of guns instead of protecting kids. "This kid" being the kid from Georgia whose dad gave him an AR15 and is now facing murder charges? Hopefully the dad gets nailed for this and that dissuades other dumbass gunfu*ckers from giving their kids battle rifles. Quote That is what you want. You want the good guys with guns to sit around. You want the little kids to die inside the school while they wait outside. They were good guys with a gun, why didn't they stop this from happening? Fact is you want little kids to die inside schools because you think their lives are less important than every lunatic having unfettered access to guns. You probably fantasize about school shootings you sick f*ck. Quote So, all you are doing now is trying to justify your not giving a shit about women who kill themselves. See you're doing the same whataboutism bullshit your fellow retarded ammosexual is trying because you don't actually have an argument here, can't refute the evidence that access to firearms is associated with increased suicide risk, and don't actually care how many people paint their walls with their brains. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Black Dog Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 34 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ROFLMAO!!! Kid, you've been wrong since the get go. The only person you 'cooked' was yourself You can't refute the research that shows the presence of guns doesn't correlate with murder or violence rates, you failed to explain why guns are horrible because they are often abused or misused but booze is fine even tho it's misused more often and results in more death, you didn't get the laws right and you couldn't even get "whataboutism" right. You could not have failed harder without a research grant to figure out how The tool is never the problem. Once you get past air guns, there are no 'safe' vs dangerous guns. All guns are dangerous. All kitchen knives are dangerous. Gasoline is dangerous. Motor vehicles are insanely dangerous. etc etc. The focus has to be on the person. Democrats either want insane gun bans AND a bunch of useless restrictions on people or just gun bans, and that prevents the conversation from procceeding. As you've proved Keep seething b!tchboy! Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
User Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: You claimed I wanted to ban guns and your proof was a quote that doesn't mention banning guns. LOL, you dumbshit. OK, genius... how do you stop people from having the means to walk into a school to kill people inside? You certainly don't want anyone else with a gun in there to stop them... 2 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Yeah just what I figured you useless fat f*ck. Oh, now all of a sudden, you have no respect for how people identify, it's only when your boyfriend has a fake vagina you become all sensitive about respecting it as a real one. 3 minutes ago, Black Dog said: "This kid" being the kid from Georgia whose dad gave him an AR15 and is now facing murder charges? Hopefully the dad gets nailed for this and that dissuades other dumbass gunfu*ckers from giving their kids battle rifles. Oh man, you really are afraid of these guns. Now you have to use the scary "battle rifles" terminology. I have been deployed to war in Iraq... we didn't carry AR-15's. We also carried shot guns, pistols, sharp knives, and shovels... OMG, look out, its a battle shovel! 5 minutes ago, Black Dog said: They were good guys with a gun, why didn't they stop this from happening? They were doing what you wanted. Sitting outside letting the bad guy kill kids and letting the others blead to death. That is what you want. 6 minutes ago, Black Dog said: See you're doing the same whataboutism bullshit your fellow retarded ammosexual is trying because you don't actually have an argument here, can't refute the evidence that access to firearms is associated with increased suicide risk, and don't actually care how many people paint their walls with their brains. That is not whataboutism. Its just pointing out you don't give a shit about women. Firearms are associated with an increased risk like rope, cars, high places, and prescription drugs are too... You don't care that people kill themselves, you just care about hating guns. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Five of swords Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 1 minute ago, User said: OK, genius... how do you stop people from having the means to walk into a school to kill people inside? You certainly don't want anyone else with a gun in there to stop them... Oh, now all of a sudden, you have no respect for how people identify, it's only when your boyfriend has a fake vagina you become all sensitive about respecting it as a real one. Oh man, you really are afraid of these guns. Now you have to use the scary "battle rifles" terminology. I have been deployed to war in Iraq... we didn't carry AR-15's. We also carried shot guns, pistols, sharp knives, and shovels... OMG, look out, its a battle shovel! They were doing what you wanted. Sitting outside letting the bad guy kill kids and letting the others blead to death. That is what you want. That is not whataboutism. Its just pointing out you don't give a shit about women. Firearms are associated with an increased risk like rope, cars, high places, and prescription drugs are too... You don't care that people kill themselves, you just care about hating guns. Good point. We should ban all guns. Quote
CdnFox Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 27 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Keep seething b!tchboy! ROFLMAO!!!! Sure kiddo Better luck next time 1 Quote
Legato Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Keep seething b!tchboy! 1 Quote
Black Dog Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, User said: OK, genius... how do you stop people from having the means to walk into a school to kill people inside? Do you think the only way to limit people's access to guns is by banning them outright? Quote You certainly don't want anyone else with a gun in there to stop them... Yeah because it makes more sense to deal with the root of the problem instead of pouring billions of dollars into "solutions" with no data to back them up. I know that's a lot for your tiny husk of a mind to grasp. Quote Oh, now all of a sudden, you have no respect for how people identify, it's only when your boyfriend has a fake vagina you become all sensitive about respecting it as a real one. No I just think you're a fat loser posing as a tough guy. Quote Oh man, you really are afraid of these guns. Now you have to use the scary "battle rifles" terminology. The only reason I use that terminology is because that's what the chickenshit cops at Uvalde described the weapon the shooter was using, dummy. If I called in an assault rifle you'd be crying about that too. Quote I have been deployed to war in Iraq... we didn't carry AR-15's. We also carried shot guns, pistols, sharp knives, and shovels... OMG, look out, its a battle shovel! Oh that explains a lot actually, I've heard exposure to depleted uranium can cause neurological issues. Quote They were doing what you wanted. Sitting outside letting the bad guy kill kids and letting the others blead to death. That is what you want. 200 or so good guys with guns. That's your solution. How'd that work out. Quote That is not whataboutism. Its just pointing out you don't give a shit about women. It's literally whataboutism you m0ron. But it's interesting you claim to be a vet and seem completely ignorant of the toll that firearm suicides have taken on your fellow vets. Assuming you're not bullshitting or were a desk jockey like JD Vance, you probably know someone who blew their head off. I'm sure they'd be glad to hear you want to make sure those suicide numbers stay nice and high. The VA: Quote Increasing the time and distance between a person with thoughts of suicide and their access to lethal means can reduce their suicide risk and potentially save their life. Most Veterans who die by suicide die by firearm. Firearm suicide death made up 72.2% of the overall Veteran suicides in 2021. Veteran suicide rates will drop if we work together to focus on the secure storage of firearms as a method for reducing Veteran suicide. You: Quote Firearms are associated with an increased risk like rope, cars, high places, and prescription drugs are too... I honestly can't believe how stupid you are that you don't comprehend the relative nature of these risks. Quote You don't care that people kill themselves, you just care about hating guns. I care if people kill themselves. Just not you. Edited September 10 by Black Dog Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Black Dog Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 33 minutes ago, Legato said: Literally a fake quote, you stunned Boomer c*nts will believe anything. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
User Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Do you think the only way to limit people's access to guns is by banning them? I think you are avoiding the question. I think that is because you are a coward who doesn't want to say what he really wants here. 4 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Yeah because it makes more sense to deal with the root of the problem instead of pouring billions of dollars into "solutions" with no data to back them up. Is this what you mutter to yourself as the little kids are inside, bleeding to death? 5 minutes ago, Black Dog said: No I just think you're a fat loser posing as a tough guy. As opposed to being a coward like you? 6 minutes ago, Black Dog said: The only reason I use that terminology is because that's what the chickenshit cops at Uvalde described the weapon the shooter was using, dummy. If I called in an assault rifle you'd be crying about that too. Why do you keep calling them chickenshit? They were doing exactly what you wanted them to. 7 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Oh that explains a lot actually, I've heard exposure to depleted uranium can cause neurological issues. Boo! Look out for my battle shovel! ROFL 8 minutes ago, Black Dog said: 200 or so good guys with guns Of course, that was a bit of overkill, you really only need a few guys to stand around outside and do nothing like you want them too. It doesn't take that many to watch little kids bleed to death like you want. 8 minutes ago, Black Dog said: It's literally whataboutism you m0ron. But it's interesting you claim to be a vet and seem completey ignorant of the toll that firearm suicides Nope, you still don't know what that means. Just like you don't know what woman means or what a real vagina is. 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
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