Nationalist Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Too bad you have ZERO EVIDENCE for ^this OPINION. Must you be so stupid? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
NAME REMOVED Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I said the military. The government was irrelevant by then. The Russian/Soviet military has always supported the Kremlin, with the exception of the August 1991 coup attempt. Once the USSR ended, and Russia was again it's own entity, the Kremlin went back to controlling the military. The coup itself, only lasted 4 days. With all the Russian propaganda you and your cohorts constantly spew out, I would ahve expected you to know a thing or two about the history of the country itself. Edited September 2, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 56 minutes ago, Deluge said: Let's just focus on our own country and toss the left-wingers out with the illegal aliens. -- Deluge Why not? Focusing on America only worked so well in World War 2. Quote
Deluge Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 13 minutes ago, robosmith said: NOT when you advocate EVICTING CITIZENS. Duh It's drastic, but fair. If you a$$holes are supporting foreign invasion of this country then you need to have your citizenships revoked for treason. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Why not? Focusing on America only worked so well in World War 2. It worked out great. We beat the bad guys. 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Deluge said: It worked out great. We beat the bad guys. Under your "America First" plan, the US did not get involved until late 1941, and although sending aid to the UK and later the USSR, refused to enter the war. Hell, it is fair to say that if America had entered the war when the UK, France, Canada, and Australia did in 1939, the Germans probably would never have conquered France, and been pushed back into Germany. The Holocaust may not have occurred. Japan considered this "weak" and decided to attack the US from Hawaii. This led to America pretty much being forced into the war, battling the Japanese, and later the Germans. If it were up to you, America would ahve done nothing, and the Japanese would have conquered Hawaii, installed military bases, and then launched attacks on the Pacific coast, including California. You can't ahve it both ways. You either participate in a war, or your position of not engaging in war. Edited September 2, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 What made America the World power that it is today, was to defend democracy in the free World. By entering WW2, the Korean War, and other conflicts, the US tries to prevent another great war. This could have happened in Korea, Yugoslavia, or other situations. Right now, the constant delay of arms to Ukraine, combined with the understanding that the Ukrainian Army cannot strike too deep in Russian territory, is impeding their chance of victory. Ukraine was geared up for a major counter-offensive in spring 2023, and internal squabbling by the US Government prevented the Ukrainians from driving the Russians out. The fact that some of you still consider Russia a "friendly nation" is sad. Quote
Nationalist Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 44 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: The Russian/Soviet military has always supported the Kremlin, with the exception of the August 1991 coup attempt. Once the USSR ended, and Russia was again it's own entity, the Kremlin went back to controlling the military. The coup itself, only lasted 4 days. With all the Russian propaganda you and your cohorts constantly spew out, I would ahve expected you to know a thing or two about the history of the country itself. Do you really think the Russian military was going to open fire on their own? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
NAME REMOVED Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Do you really think the Russian military was going to open fire on their own? They have done it time and time again throughout history. Quote
Nationalist Posted September 2, 2024 Report Posted September 2, 2024 8 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: They have done it time and time again throughout history. They did not in this case. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 (edited) 19 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Under your "America First" plan, the US did not get involved until late 1941, and although sending aid to the UK and later the USSR, refused to enter the war. Hell, it is fair to say that if America had entered the war when the UK, France, Canada, and Australia did in 1939, the Germans probably would never have conquered France, and been pushed back into Germany. The Holocaust may not have occurred. Japan considered this "weak" and decided to attack the US from Hawaii. This led to America pretty much being forced into the war, battling the Japanese, and later the Germans. If it were up to you, America would ahve done nothing, and the Japanese would have conquered Hawaii, installed military bases, and then launched attacks on the Pacific coast, including California. You can't ahve it both ways. You either participate in a war, or your position of not engaging in war. And we haven't seen an attack on American soil SINCE Pearl Harbor. You see, diapers, dictators learned that you don't f*ck with America. Japan learned that the hard way, and now they're one of our best friends. The entire planet STILL knows better than to try and take us head on. Sure, you flag burning gender benders have been doing your best to make the US look frail and weak, but most countries still understand that the woke virus is more superficial & temporary than anything else, so we're still enjoying peace. One thing you need to understand, DUI, is that I am always right and you are always left, which means you are always wrong. Edited September 3, 2024 by Deluge Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Deluge said: And we haven't seen an attack on American soil SINCE Pearl Harbor. 9/11 says "hi." 1 Quote
Deluge Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: 9/11 says "hi." I'm sure you continue to get your rocks off on 9/11, but we still don't know exactly what that was. Edited September 3, 2024 by Deluge 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 18 minutes ago, Deluge said: I'm sure you continue to get your rocks off on 9/11, but we still don't know exactly what that was. It was an attack by a well organized islamic group called Al Queda. On American soil... 1 Quote
Deluge Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: It was an attack by a well organized islamic group called Al Queda. On American soil... Or it was an inside job organized by treasonous a$$holes. Don't get me wrong, Islamic terrorism needs to be wiped out regardless of what happens, but I'm still not convinced that 9/11 wasn't an inside job. After all, we do have some real traitorous a$$holes in this country; look no further than Joe Biden and Kamela Harris for confirmation of that. Edited September 3, 2024 by Deluge Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 10 minutes ago, Deluge said: Or it was an inside job organized by treasonous a$$holes. Don't get me wrong, Islamic terrorism needs to be wiped out regardless of what happens, but I'm still not convinced that 9/11 wasn't an inside job. Im just going to block you. I dont waste my time with simpletons. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Im just going to block you. I dont waste my time with simpletons. Putting the Conspiracy set on Ignore is a good way to reclaim future wasted time.. 👍🏻 2 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 19 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Im just going to block you. I dont waste my time with simpletons. Please do. You can lurk in the shadows with Mike. Quote
Deluge Posted September 3, 2024 Report Posted September 3, 2024 11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Putting the Conspiracy set on Ignore is a good way to reclaim future wasted time.. 👍🏻 Because you pseudo-intellectuals have so much more important shit to talk about like tranny rights & illegal immigration denial. Quote
August1991 Posted September 5, 2024 Author Report Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/2/2024 at 12:41 PM, robosmith said: We face the threat of a megalomaniacal fascist who dreams of resurrecting the USSR and is taking ILLEGAL steps to make it happen. IF International agreements are not enforced, they MEAN NOTHING. .... Strongly disagree. Putin is no "megalomaniacal fascist who dreams of resurrecting the USSR". IMHO, he is a typical character in Russian history. ===== America was attacked in 1941 and 2011. We Canadians have a bizarre canal, capital. Twice, West Europeans invaded Russians. ==== This is an ugly Civil War. Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2024 Report Posted September 5, 2024 25 minutes ago, August1991 said: Strongly disagree. Putin is no "megalomaniacal fascist who dreams of resurrecting the USSR". IMHO, he is a typical character in Russian history. ===== America was attacked in 1941 and 2011. We Canadians have a bizarre canal, capital. Twice, West Europeans invaded Russians. ==== This is an ugly Civil War. Putin has outrighted stated that the dissolution of the USSR was a MAJOR TRAGEDY. It is VERY clear he wants to reassemble the USSR. Vladimir Putin: Restoration of empire is the endgame for ... CNN https://www.cnn.com › 2022/06/10 › europe › russia-p... Jun 11, 2022 — Putin's words speak for themselves: What he is aiming for in Ukraine is the restoration of Russia as an imperial power. Putin's dreams of a new Russian Empire are unraveling in ... Atlantic Council https://www.atlanticcouncil.org › blogs › ukrainealert › p... Apr 25, 2023 — Putin saw the invasion of Ukraine as a key step toward rebuilding the Russian Empire. Instead, it has forced countries across the former Soviet ... Quote
Rebound Posted September 5, 2024 Report Posted September 5, 2024 On 9/2/2024 at 9:14 AM, Nationalist said: Huh... Couldn't have had anything to do with the hundred million people who wanted to be out from under Soviet control...especially the satellite states. But ya...over simplification suites you. No, it had little to do with the will of the people. I know an East German electrical engineer who was educated in Moscow during the early 80’s. He told me he loved it! He said it was great. He got an extremely good education, an apartment, and all his needs were met. I met others who said the science education, the chess clubs, the sporting, it was all outstanding. I am not a supporter of communism at all, and I was very surprised that they told me these things. And I met Jewish dissidents who absolutely hated the Soviet system. But the fall of the Soviet system happened because of Gorbachev, and it wasn’t his failure, it was his deliberate decision. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Nationalist Posted September 5, 2024 Report Posted September 5, 2024 8 hours ago, Rebound said: No, it had little to do with the will of the people. I stopped reading here. This is just stupid. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
August1991 Posted September 7, 2024 Author Report Posted September 7, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 10:53 PM, robosmith said: Putin has outrighted stated that the dissolution of the USSR was a MAJOR TRAGEDY. And in the world of Trudeau Snr, Nixon, Truman - it was. Quote
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