robosmith Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 17 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: No I am not. You are missing the point. You guys are extremely fast to judge when it is an "enemy" and extremely hard headed when it's one of your own. Nancy Pelosi has clearly been high or drunk at work on several occasions. Clinton and Obama both admitted to doing drugs. Don't act like this is new and you guys have never had a candidate. His past drug use isn't the problem. The problem you have with him is that he isn't 100% in on the liberal fantasy. Be honest. YOUR opinions as to the seriousness of drug use means NOTHING. Crack addiction is OBVIOUSLY much more serious than the pot Obama and Clinton admitted to smoking. 17 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: This is why Trump is popular. We know you guys are going to behave like children. You've been doing it for several generations. So we voted for someone that doesn't put up with your b.s. You could even say we voted for one of you with a conservative bent. YOU voted for a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR who is also a narcissistic sociopath, according to Kellyanne Conway's ex-husband. George Conway on Trump: 'He is a narcissistic sociopath ... YouTube · ... Donald Trump sitting as a defendant and how he ... George Conway on Trump: 'He is a narcissistic sociopath, he's not a normal, he's unwell'. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, WestCanMan said: A resident leftard here posted an article about that before, and the article actually said that he approached Trump a month before he reputedly approached Kamala. Kamala couldn't take Kennedy on because he's the exact opposite of a vax-cultist. There's literally ZERO room in the DNC for a non-conformist. For that reason I am completely shocked if that really happened. You're LYING. There are plenty of non-conformists at the DNC, including SEVERAL RepublCONS like Adam Kinzinger. 17 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I haven't followed RFK Jr closely enough to know what all he's into. I appreciate his stance against the pseudovax, that takes a lot of ba11s at that level, but I don't know much else about him. I can't listen to the guy talk. I feel physical pain when he's talking. You STILL don't know how ALL vaccines work, nor WHY viral vaccines are less effective. 🤮 Edited August 26, 2024 by robosmith 1 Quote
West Posted August 26, 2024 Author Report Posted August 26, 2024 48 minutes ago, Rebound said: Truth is, John F Kennedy was not Robert Kennedy, Jr.’s dad. What was the name of Robert Kennedy, Jr.’s father? It’s really not that hard to figure out. Bottom line is the Democrats are on the brink of ending democracy in the US. If RFK Jr, a lifelong Democrat power player, can see that the rest of us can see it as well. Heck even the former vice president of the DNC, Tulsi Gabbard, can see how crazy her party has become and is now endorsing Donnie. I think they would gladly back the Democrat party but they've swung communist now so decent people with disagreements now need to abandon basic principal so the US doesn't end up like communist China or Venezuala. Those disputes can be had at another time this is about the survival of the country at this point. Quote
Deluge Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 21 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: That is because RFK Jr is a betrayal to his father. RFK is a grifter, who has piggybacked through life, based on his last name. I have a feeling that you are completely unfamiliar with the Kennedy family. JFK would vomit all over today's democrat party. It's not even a discussion. 20 hours ago, Aristides said: So why did he approach the Harris team first and only go to Trump after he was ignored? Because he's confused, like the hair sniffer; just not AS confused as the hair sniffer. We just want his support, not his candidacy. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 17 hours ago, WestCanMan said: That's the biggest problem that democracy faces now, by far. What's the difference between being disenfranchised and being completely kept in the dark seeing nothing but lies and propaganda? The leftists here would all vote for Hitler, because none of them would ever dare oppose a Dem narrative. I would argue that we have too much access to information, that is unregulated. Before the late 90s, this hardly ever happened, since the CRTC in Canada, and FTC in America regulated the TV networks, so they could not spread false and misleading information. Today, not only does the internet consist of mainly false and misleading info. But FTC regulations have been loosened to the point that TV networks can slant the news in such a way that it can suit a false narrative. The results speak for themselves. People believe a variety of things, but only a small percentage of people can decipher the truth from propaganda. Just look at what Russia has accomplished in the past decade by mastering disinformation in the Western World. They have managed to sew division in America and Canada without firing a single shot. I would be for more regulations in terms of the media, especially when it comes to Independent journalists. 1 hour ago, Deluge said: JFK would vomit all over today's democrat party. It's not even a discussion. Why? Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: You STILL don't know how ALL vaccines work, nor WHY viral vaccines are less effective. 🤮 WCM does not understand science and medicine, so it's unfair to expect him to understand how a vaccine works. Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 16 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: I would argue that we have too much access to information, that is unregulated. Before the late 90s, this hardly ever happened, since the CRTC in Canada, and FTC in America regulated the TV networks, so they could not spread false and misleading information. Today, not only does the internet consist of mainly false and misleading info. But FTC regulations have been loosened to the point that TV networks can slant the news in such a way that it can suit a false narrative. The results speak for themselves. People believe a variety of things, but only a small percentage of people can decipher the truth from propaganda. Just look at what Russia has accomplished in the past decade by mastering disinformation in the Western World. They have managed to sew division in America and Canada without firing a single shot. I would be for more regulations in terms of the media, especially when it comes to Independent journalists. Do we really want the people who were in charge of the covid narrative choosing what we get to see and hear now? Now that we knew what Fauci knew when people were getting banned from social media for saying BSL4 lab, we know the whole covid narrative came to us from liars. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
NAME REMOVED Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: Do we really want the people who were in charge of the covid narrative choosing what we get to see and hear now? Now that we knew what Fauci knew when people were getting banned from social media for saying BSL4 lab, we know the whole covid narrative came to us from liars. Yes, of course. You are a perfect example of what can go wrong when unsuspecting people fall victim to misinformation. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Yes, of course. That is crazy. Whether you agree with an official narrative or not, people should be allowed to freely question it. No government entity should be trusted to arbitrate misinformation. Quote You are a perfect example of what can go wrong when unsuspecting people fall victim to misinformation. In what way? What has gone wrong? Edited August 26, 2024 by CouchPotato Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 7 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: No government entity should be trusted to arbitrate misinformation. Yes they should. This was the norm until Ronald Reagan deregulated the industry in the 80s. 7 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: In what way? What has gone wrong? Everything. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said: Everything. Such as? What danger does he pose to society? Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) 22 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Yes, of course. You are a perfect example of what can go wrong when unsuspecting people fall victim to misinformation. You are a perfect example of what happens when average people are subjected to an overwhelming, multi-pronged disinformation campaign. If there were no "unapproved sources" of information then "conspiracy theorists" would only be learning the truth at about twice the speed of people like you. Right now we'd all be hearing that only vaccinated people survived covid, and we'd all need yearly vaxes for the rest of our lives to prevent certain death. Edited August 26, 2024 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
NAME REMOVED Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: If there were no "unapproved sources" of information then "conspiracy theorists" would only be learning the truth at about twice the speed of people like you. Right now we'd all be hearing that only vaccinated people survived covid, and we'd all need vaxes for the rest of their lives. If we regulated the internet more strictly, the conspiracy theorists can go away, to where they belong. Yelling at commuters at some random intersection. 7 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: Such as? What danger does he pose to society? WCM does not really pose a danger to society, but as a believer of conspiracy theories, he is watching his life go by, when he has so much potential to make the World a better place,.. 1 Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: If we regulated the internet more strictly, the conspiracy theorists can go away, to where they belong. I wasn't fond of the Russia collusion people, either, but they have as much right to post online as anyone else. Seriously, though, if the government regulates the internet it just gives them the monopoly on misinformation. Even the biggest kooks can say something valuable once in a while. It's not smart to silence people. Edited August 26, 2024 by CouchPotato Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 Just now, CouchPotato said: I wasn't fond of the Russia collusion people, either, but they have as much right to post online as anyone else. Russians did interfere with the 2016 election. Russia is in the forefront in the disinformation campaign, and it is tearing the fabric of American society away, and people do not even realise it as they ahve been brainwashed for so long by Kremlin propaganda. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 Just now, DUI_Offender said: If we regulated the internet more strictly, the conspiracy theorists can go away, to where they belong. Yelling at commuters at some random intersection. So only a handful of conspiracy theorists and some random commuters would know that the jabs actually were dangerous? Only a handful of conspiracy theorists and some random commuters would know that the covid jabs didn't work? Whose side are you on? The official narrative would still be "The jabs are safe and effective, and you can't give granny covid if you're vaxed" if it wasn't for "conspiracy theorists". CNN and CBC didn't say that. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CouchPotato Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 Just now, DUI_Offender said: Russians did interfere with the 2016 election. Did they collude with Trump? Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: So only a handful of conspiracy theorists and some random commuters would know that the jabs actually were dangerous? That is the way it should be. Warts and all, the COVID vaccine reduced COVID fatalities by the hundreds of thousands.. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: WCM does not really pose a danger to society, but as a believer of conspiracy theories, he is watching his life go by, when he has so much potential to make the World a better place,.. And what exactly are you doing? As far as science goes, consensus opinions are not always truth. Doctors and scientists who disagree should be able to make their arguments, whether they end up being true or not. You don't arrive at truth by banning unpopular opinions. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 1 hour ago, CouchPotato said: You don't arrive at truth by banning unpopular opinions. But then again, you can't allow lies to gain widespread influence either. It's a conundrum 🤔 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CouchPotato Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: But then again, you can't allow lies to gain widespread influence either. Who does the allowing? I think it's far better to allow open discussion and let people make up their own minds. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted August 26, 2024 Report Posted August 26, 2024 26 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: Who does the allowing? I think it's far better to allow open discussion and let people make up their own minds. Well if you are using a private channel then the owner. A public channel works according to policy etc. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
User Posted August 27, 2024 Report Posted August 27, 2024 3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: If we regulated the internet more strictly, the conspiracy theorists can go away, to where they belong. Yelling at commuters at some random intersection. Of course, you are an authoritarian who doesn't like free speech. Quote
Hodad Posted August 27, 2024 Report Posted August 27, 2024 5 hours ago, CouchPotato said: Did they collude with Trump? Yes, with the Trump campaign, at least. Trump campaign manager, Paul Manafort, met secretly multiple times (along with multilayered communication obfuscation) to deliver sensitive internal polling data and campaign strategy to Russian agent Konstantin Kilimnik. Kilimnik, in turn, took that information directly to Russian intelligence services that were running the troll farms that were distributing targeted misinformation intended to help Trump win the election. ^^None of this is conjecture or supposition. It's all a matter of public record documented in various reports. There was no written agreement to conclusively establish intent (of course) but Manafort knew all of the players well. It was elaborately contrived and hidden and clearly neither innocent nor accidental. The net-net, with only the most minor inference, is that Manafort was providing targeting information to Russian intelligence so that the Russian misinformation campaign knew exactly what to say, when, and to whom in order to align with the Trump campaign. Now, as for Trump, he claimed that he had no knowledge of his campaign manager sharing sensitive campaign information with the Russians. Which would mean that he later discovered that Manafort had been going behind his back and taking actions that caused a HUGE amount of friction and pain for Trump and seriously jeopardized his agenda. We all know that Trump is obsessed with loyalty. He rewards the loyal and throws away campaigners and cabinet staff at the first sign of disloyalty. Manafort had (allegedly) betrayed him. However, instead of cutting him off for his damaging clandestine activities, Trump defended Manafort. Manafort was convicted of many crimes that he unquestionably committed. But he did not roll on Trump regarding Russia. He was loyal. And he was rewarded with the pardon he was promised. You can draw your own conclusion about how Manafort earned that pardon and whether Trump knew what his campaign manager was doing on his behalf. 1 1 Quote
robosmith Posted August 27, 2024 Report Posted August 27, 2024 11 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: WCM does not understand science and medicine, so it's unfair to expect him to understand how a vaccine works. I don't expect him to understand, nor stop pretending he does. It's way too late to teach an old dog new tricks. LMAO 1 Quote
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