Are USA Citizens Too Ashamed Of Their Own Country To Name Themselves After Their Own Country

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

Nerdlinger

The nation formerly known as "US".  

[robosmith]

21 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

If you looked up the history of the term, you would note that American was originally the term for all the natives that lived here.

IF you actually looked up the term, YOU would know that the continent was named after Amerigo Vespucci, the explorer who first named it.

 

Amerigo Vespucci

Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Amerigo_Vespucci

 

 

 

 

Amerigo Vespucci was an Italian explorer and navigator from the Republic of Florence, from whose name the term "America" is derived. Amerigo Vespucci.

[WestCanMan]

The name originally given to the natives here was "Indian", because the dummies who found America for the whatevereth time (not the first, probably not even second time ,we now know) thought that they had made it to India, and the dark-skinned folk here were Indians.

Now we probably have more Indian Indians in Canada than what we used to refer to as native Indians, in any event, using the word Indian gets a bit weird.

"Indian" mean Indians from India when Indo-Canadians say it, and Americans mean North American Natives when they say Indian, and the gov't of Canada still uses the word "Indian", eg "Indian Land Registry". 

If you talk to an Indo-Canadian about India, of course you say Indians, and it is pretty weird considering Indian was a normal word for FN people here when I grew up. 

[Political Smash]

On 8/16/2024 at 11:28 AM, WestCanMan said:

You're confusing "too hard to understand" with "unintelligible". 

1. I'm Canadian

2. What US citizens "name themselves" after an entire continent? 

FYI the states were independent sovereign regions that banded together to form a country. That's why you hear things like "The Commonwealth of Virginia, Pennsylvania, or Massachusetts" or "The Republic of California or Texas", etc. 

When they came together to form a country they didn't just agree to be swallowed up by Massachusetts or whatever and become a part of that growing 'country' named Massachusetts. They joined together as the states within a larger union. They formed a new country within North America. They were states that united to form a country in the Americas. So they called themselves the "United States of America". Individuals call themselves "Americans". They're no shortage of pride for them in saying they're Americans. Everyone in the English speaking world knows what "American" means. 

What do you think 'USA citizens' should call themselves aside from Americans? USAns? Usans? 

I'll be really honest with you again: I don't think Americans are generally ashamed of their country, and I don't know who ever said that they were. The knock on Americans up 'til now would have been that they're overly patriotic, don't you think? 

1. Well with a mug like your member photo I can see why you claim to find something so simple as unintelligible.

2. Every citizen that calls themselves American. Like duh.

This isn't about a commonwealth, this is about people naming themselves after a continent instead of their own country and I ask it because are they too ashamed of their own country to name themselves after their own country instead of an entire continent?

 Ustatians I think is reasonable suggestion.

On 8/16/2024 at 11:39 AM, CouchPotato said:

This question is the first thing that popped into my head, and now I can't stop thinking about possible names.

I gave a suggestion, what do you think?

Edited August 18 by Political Smash

[Political Smash]

On 8/16/2024 at 12:01 PM, Hodad said:

This is a weird/dumb thread, but I'm very worried about OP when he gets around to noticing that the Dutch live in Holland, formally The Netherlands, within the Kingdom of the Netherlands. 

He may go full meltdown.

Do they name themselves after a continent shared by other countries?

[Political Smash]

On 8/16/2024 at 12:07 PM, robosmith said:

Thanks for answering one of my questions here as to whether Canadians are taught US history.

We are United States to kowtow to the individual states which needed convincing to join a Federal union.

And "of America" because that is what unites those states.

Has nothing to do with shame. I guess you've not noticed how arrogant we are. LMAO

 

Of America because that is the continent you are on but it still doesn't explain why you name yourselves after an entire continent instead of your own country which leads to the question, is it because you are too ashamed of your own country to name yourselves after your own country instead of an entire continent?

[Political Smash]

On 8/16/2024 at 12:11 PM, CdnFox said:

Wait till he finds out the english live in Britain and the british live in England. 

Mind blown.... 

Are they naming themselves after and entire continent shared by other countries?

[Political Smash]

On 8/16/2024 at 12:20 PM, gatomontes99 said:

You posted this very early in the morning. Given the speech patterns and the lack of supporting evidence for this thesis, I have to wonder ifnthis wasn't the result of a drunk post following an all night bender.

If not, ok, but wow!

If you looked up the history of the term, you would note that American was originally the term for all the natives that lived here. As time progressed and Europeans made north America their home, the term slowly morphed into anyone living in North America.

Now, when the Constituion was written and the official name of the union became The United States but there still wasn't consistent usage of the name. Sometimes it was the United States. Sometimes it was the United States of North America. It eventually settled to the United States of America.

The term American predates the country and was used to refer to people in North America. That term has stuck. We didn't name ourselves that, it was given to us.

Lack of supporting evidence? Thesis? They name themselves after an entire continent instead of their own country. What more evidence do you need? Is this because they are too ashamed of their own country to name themselves after their own country instead of naming themselves after an entire continent?

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, Political Smash said:

Lack of supporting evidence? Thesis? They name themselves after an entire continent instead of their own country. What more evidence do you need? Is this because they are too ashamed of their own country to name themselves after their own country instead of naming themselves after an entire continent?

Well, I actually gave you an abbreviated rundown of how it came to be. It took only a few minutes to locate the information on the internet. Maybe if you hadn't been so eager to find fault and spent just a moment of time getting educated on the subject, you could have avoided looking foolish.

The reality is the name Americans is not an official decree but rather a colloquial reference that "stuck" and then morphed. So, no, they did not name themselves after the continent.

Edited August 18 by gatomontes99

[CouchPotato]

How about Yanks?

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, Political Smash said:

Of America because that is the continent you are on but it still doesn't explain why you name yourselves after an entire continent instead of your own country which leads to the question, is it because you are too ashamed of your own country to name yourselves after your own country instead of an entire continent?

Like I said, there is NO SHAME. You are being ridiculous like a little kid who can't let go of a false idea.

Clearly the states are "of America" and that is the name that was chosen by THE FOUNDERS and Amerigo Vespucci. Duh

57 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

How about Yanks?

Clearly the Southern states would not agree since they fought a war with the Yanks.

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, Political Smash said:

1. Well with a mug like your member photo I can see why you claim to find something so simple as unintelligible.

2. Every citizen that calls themselves American. Like duh.

This isn't about a commonwealth, this is about people naming themselves after a continent instead of their own country and I ask it because are they too ashamed of their own country to name themselves after their own country instead of an entire continent?

 Ustatians I think is reasonable suggestion.

I gave a suggestion, what do you think?

 

[CouchPotato]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Clearly the Southern states would not agree since they fought a war with the Yanks.

Too bad for them. I've already decided.

[Political Smash]

On 8/18/2024 at 4:56 AM, gatomontes99 said:

Well, I actually gave you an abbreviated rundown of how it came to be. It took only a few minutes to locate the information on the internet. Maybe if you hadn't been so eager to find fault and spent just a moment of time getting educated on the subject, you could have avoided looking foolish.

The reality is the name Americans is not an official decree but rather a colloquial reference that "stuck" and then morphed. So, no, they did not name themselves after the continent.

Oh so you are saying that the USA was around long before the continent was named because otherwise it just appears that you are desperately scrambling to try and confuse the issue to try and hide that USA citizens appear to be too ashamed of their own country to name themselves after their own country instead of an entire continent.

 

 So how would you explain USA if the A didn't already exist?

On 8/18/2024 at 12:35 PM, robosmith said:

Like I said, there is NO SHAME. You are being ridiculous like a little kid who can't let go of a false idea.

Clearly the states are "of America" and that is the name that was chosen by THE FOUNDERS and Amerigo Vespucci. Duh

Clearly the Southern states would not agree since they fought a war with the Yanks.

If there is no shame then go ahead and prove it by naming your citizens after your country instead of an entire continent.

 

Edited August 23 by Political Smash

[Political Smash]

You know you guys could rename the USA Igoria and call yourselves Igorians ...

 

Just a suggestion ...

Edited August 23 by Political Smash

[Rebound]

On 8/16/2024 at 3:39 AM, Political Smash said:

It's pretty plainly put and no I am not the one high here.

Do you USA citizens name themselves after an entire continenent because they are too ashamed of their own country to name themselves after their own country instead of an entire continent?

Not at all. at best coffee and cigarettes ...

I told you.  
They named two whole continents after the United States of America.  

[Political Smash]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

I told you.  
They named two whole continents after the United States of America.  

No matter how you try to spin it or who believes such, it doesn't detract from the fact that America is a continent and not a country which leads to the question, are USA citizens too ashamed of their own country to name themselves after their own country instead of an entire continent?. 

Edited August 23 by Political Smash

[CdnFox]

On 8/18/2024 at 9:51 AM, CouchPotato said:

Too bad for them. I've already decided.

(they don't realize they're ALLLLL southern states to us  )

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, Political Smash said:

Oh so you are saying that the USA was around long before the continent was named because otherwise it just appears that you are desperately scrambling to try and confuse the issue to try and hide that USA citizens appear to be too ashamed of their own country to name themselves after their own country instead of an entire continent.

 

 So how would you explain USA if the A didn't already exist?

If there is no shame then go ahead and prove it by naming your citizens after your country instead of an entire continent.

 

I'm not scrambling to do anything. I gave you the history of the term. You just refuse to see it because of your bigotry. Not much I can do.

[CouchPotato]

How about Trumpland? And it's citizens could be Trumpians. That's something that everyone could get behind.

[CouchPotato]

Edit that. The country should be called Trumpia, it's citizens Trumpians, and the national anthem "We are the Trumpians.".

[Legato]

Thera's a lot of water where I live, so when asked where I say "boat launch".

[Political Smash]

On 8/23/2024 at 6:49 AM, gatomontes99 said:

I'm not scrambling to do anything. I gave you the history of the term. You just refuse to see it because of your bigotry. Not much I can do.

Oh so despite your so called history lesson which doesn't detract from the fact, stating the fact that America is a continent and not a country makes a person a bigot according to your leftist style ideology tactics huh ...

Pathetic.

[Political Smash]

On 8/23/2024 at 9:48 AM, CouchPotato said:

How about Trumpland? And it's citizens could be Trumpians. That's something that everyone could get behind.

 

4 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

Edit that. The country should be called Trumpia, it's citizens Trumpians, and the national anthem "We are the Trumpians.".

 

4 hours ago, Legato said:

Thera's a lot of water where I live, so when asked where I say "boat launch".

Well I suppose such ideas add to the pot but I still suggest you guys could rename the USA Igoria and call yourselves Igorians ...

[gatomontes99]

14 minutes ago, Political Smash said:

Oh so despite your so called history lesson which doesn't detract from the fact, stating the fact that America is a continent and not a country makes a person a bigot according to your leftist style ideology tactics huh ...

Pathetic.

bigot : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

Tell me how you don't fit this definition? You have this irrational fixation on a term that has been used for centuries. You refuse to a knowledge that it was given and not chosen. You've assigned far more importance to this issue than is rationally logical. How are you not a bigot?