Is it a medical condition like cleptomania, or just plain old stupidity?

[myata]

San Francisco's former mayor Willie Brown has dismissed as "fiction" Donald Trump's story that they once endured a scary helicopter trip together.

Mr Brown, 90, told US media he had never shared a helicopter with Trump, adding: "I don't think I'd want to ride on the same helicopter with him".

Trump, 78, appeared to be confusing Mr Brown with Jerry Brown, California's former governor, with whom he shared a helicopter ride in 2018 to visit the aftermath of the Paradise wildfires. Gavin Newsom, the current state governor, was also on the flight.

Both men told US media there was no emergency landing or danger. "I call complete BS," Mr Newsom told The New York Times.

BBC

Seriously, that pathetic joke for a president?

[myata]

What's wrong with him? Why he seem to just couldn't stop lying? Even in the obvious cases where others can check it immediately? Is it some kind of a disease a psychological condition?

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, myata said:

San Francisco's former mayor Willie Brown has dismissed as "fiction" Donald Trump's story that they once endured a scary helicopter trip together.

Mr Brown, 90, told US media he had never shared a helicopter with Trump, adding: "I don't think I'd want to ride on the same helicopter with him".

Trump, 78, appeared to be confusing Mr Brown with Jerry Brown, California's former governor, with whom he shared a helicopter ride in 2018 to visit the aftermath of the Paradise wildfires. Gavin Newsom, the current state governor, was also on the flight.

Both men told US media there was no emergency landing or danger. "I call complete BS," Mr Newsom told The New York Times.

BBC

Seriously, that pathetic joke for a president?

And you said that with a straight face. lol

 

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, myata said:

What's wrong with him? Why he seem to just couldn't stop lying? Even in the obvious cases where others can check it immediately? Is it some kind of a disease a psychological condition?

What's wrong with Trump? lol.

What's wrong with BIDEN:

 

[myata]

Looks like it's contagious too

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, myata said:

Looks like it's contagious too

It sure is - you even voted for it. 

 

Edited August 9, 2024 by Deluge

[CouchPotato]

A better question is why does Kamala keep avoiding interviews?

[myata]

No it's definitely contagious. Why he seems to just couldn't stop lying? What could be wrong with him?

"fiction" "complete BS"

Edited August 9, 2024 by myata

[Hodad]

Yes, it's a mental health issue that is a component of several diagnosable disorders. 

Most people lie occasionally, from white lies to whoppers, but the extreme volume and often lack of identifiable benefit and certainty of being caught make it a problem. Sort of like the difference between someone who has the occasional social drink and someone who goes on benders alone in their apartment. 

 

Lying Pathologically

Some providers have suggested that pathological lying is different from other types of lying because it’s excessive (a person tells multiple lies a day) and has gone on for at least six months).910

Like other problematic lying, pathological lying can be unconscious and without any obvious gain. However, it can also be intended to manipulate others. For example, a person who lies pathologically may tell lies to establish status in their social groups instead of honestly and genuinely working on building up their reputation.11

‌Another example could be far more detailed and complex: a pathological liar may completely make up their “backstory” and lie about where they grew up, what their parents did for work, and where they went to school. They may even claim to be related to an important historical figure or celebrity.12

[myata]

It looks more and more like he couldn't control himself, what he says. It just spills out.

[Deluge]

15 minutes ago, myata said:

No it's definitely contagious. Why he seems to just couldn't stop lying? What could be wrong with him?

"fiction" "complete BS"

Biden is a liar, there's no getting around that, but why do you keep beating this like a dead horse? 

11 minutes ago, myata said:

It looks more and more like he couldn't control himself, what he says. It just spills out.

I get what you mean:

 

[Deluge]

13 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Yes, it's a mental health issue that is a component of several diagnosable disorders. 

And yet Biden slithered into the White House anyways. What's wrong with you people? 

[myata]

The cult does not contradict these facts, so at least there's a part of reality they can accept. Pathological lying syndrome, in a presidential candidate. Another historical milestone.

[CouchPotato]

6 minutes ago, myata said:

The cult does not contradict these facts, so at least there's a part of reality they can accept. Pathological lying syndrome, in a presidential candidate. Another historical milestone.

We have tried, myata. You just ignore it. This isn't a new thread. This is just another name for several other topics you have created. You are obsessed with Donald Trump.

Edited August 9, 2024 by CouchPotato

[myata]

We cannot ignore the reality. A growing body of facts is pointing to a compulsive liar running for the post of the president of the United States. Like it or not, but it just keeps happening and these are just facts.

[myata]

17 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

This isn't a new thread. This is just another name

What you're saying here as that another instance of a blatant, outrageous lie, "fantasy", "BS" as witnesses called it is nothing new, nothing out of ordinary and should be just shrugged off for someone running for this post.

No. It's not normal. Pathological lying is nothing normal. Pathologically lying president would be hugely abnormal. To everybody else, it's quite clear. Too bad that you decided to turn off and hand over your brain but people did that and it's their choice. Happy sailing dead brain waves (easy and eventless isn't quite common in these cases).

Edited August 10, 2024 by myata

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, myata said:

San Francisco's former mayor Willie Brown has dismissed as "fiction" Donald Trump's story that they once endured a scary helicopter trip together.

Mr Brown, 90, told US media he had never shared a helicopter with Trump, adding: "I don't think I'd want to ride on the same helicopter with him".

Trump, 78, appeared to be confusing Mr Brown with Jerry Brown, California's former governor, with whom he shared a helicopter ride in 2018 to visit the aftermath of the Paradise wildfires. Gavin Newsom, the current state governor, was also on the flight.

Both men told US media there was no emergency landing or danger. "I call complete BS," Mr Newsom told The New York Times.

BBC

Seriously, that pathetic joke for a president?

Why would anyone believe the alleged story of a corrupt demonrat like Willie Brown from an article in a lying rag as quoted by a lying sh1t-poster like you? 

Do you know how much of a stretch that is?

It's like hearing Black Dog's version of a story about a Bernie Madoff stock tip that he found in the Enquirer. 

Sorry if we're not invested in your story, myata. Don't take it personally, you're just known for being a liar. 

[myata]

There are two witnesses to the story. Responsible independent media confirmed the facts.

So here's what the cult is about: shut down all information that it cannot control. Abandon the justice system if it cannot be controlled. Let it run elections, find votes and declare winners. This much is clear. Does it remind you of something?

[CouchPotato]

Remember how Joe Biden told gold-star families his son Beau died in Iraq. Or when he said he drove an 18-wheeler. Or when his house burned down with his wife in it. Or about how he never discussed business dealings with his son. Or how a drunk driver killed his wife and daughter.

Edited August 9, 2024 by CouchPotato

[herbie]

Better point is why can't any of these clowns argue to the point?

Because they can't. Everyone knows DonOld is a lying P.O.S. so they have to deflect to whatabout someone else. Somebody else did something that has nothing to do with your point. They can't counter with DonOld in NOT a liar, because they too know that he is.

They're trapped in a mind tunnel and see the headlight coming and are grasping for help from anyone left who's also dumber than a hammer.

[herbie]

BTW kleptomania is compulsive thievery, You're referring to mythomania, compulsive lying.

Mental illnesses that can cause symptoms of pathological lying can include:

• Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)
• Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
• Borderline personality disorder.
• Antisocial personality disorder.
• Narcissistic personality disorder.
• Bipolar disorder.

[myata]

11 hours ago, herbie said:

Better point is why can't any of these clowns argue to the point?

That one would be quite obvious. Argue, with what?

[myata]

11 hours ago, herbie said:

Mental illnesses that can cause symptoms of pathological lying can include:

• Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)
• Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
• Borderline personality disorder.
• Antisocial personality disorder.
• Narcissistic personality disorder.
• Bipolar disorder.

Now that may go some way in explaining that behavior doesn't it? Recall that "stolen election" lie - it was more than a lie upon lie in the n-th power. Almost like an obsession, a new reality he made for himself and his cult and just couldn't let go of.

[Rebound]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Why would anyone believe the alleged story of a corrupt demonrat like Willie Brown from an article in a lying rag as quoted by a lying sh1t-poster like you? 

Do you know how much of a stretch that is?

It's like hearing Black Dog's version of a story about a Bernie Madoff stock tip that he found in the Enquirer. 

Sorry if we're not invested in your story, myata. Don't take it personally, you're just known for being a liar. 

Why would Willie Brown, who is now 90 years old and long retired from public service, fly in a helicopter with Trump during the 2020 California wildfires? Records show that the other passengers were Governor Jerry Brown and AG Gavin Newsom.  

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Rebound said:

Why would Willie Brown, who is now 90 years old and long retired from public service, fly in a helicopter with Trump during the 2020 California wildfires? Records show that the other passengers were Governor Jerry Brown and AG Gavin Newsom.  

So maybe he had Jerry Brown and Willie Brown mixed up in his head. Is that such a stretch? Jerry Brown, Willie Brown...

It's obvious enough for people who live in California or who know one of those guys personally, but for a guy who was living in NYC and not a politician when all that went down, he never even would have heard of it until decades later.

Were you aware of the exact moment that Willie Brown came in Kamala's mouth, and then he gave her two lucrative political appointments? 

I didn't know about it until at least the 2020's. That happened 30 years earlier. 

Maybe Kamala had sex with both of them. You don't know.

And TBH, it makes more sense if it was a 60-yr-old governor that she was having sex with, because I don't even understand how the mayor of San Fran gave her those political appointments (but it's a fact that he did). It sounds more like something that a governor could/would do. 

 

As for the 'copter ride, if Trump thinks the ride was scary, then the ride was scary for him. 

I don't even go in helicopters. The best man from our wedding gave us a chopper ride from out of Whistler BC as a wedding gift and it expired after 6 months because we didn't use it. We wouldn't have enjoyed it so we didn't go. I'd go in a helo if it was necessary, but not for pleasure.

If I was in Australia and a snake passed by me when I was sitting on the grass, I'd be freaked out by it, my wife would jump out of her skin and land on my head, but both of our moms would die on the spot. An Australian aboriginal granny would probably say "That snake's barely venomous, and it won't eat anything larger than a goat. I would have killed it with my bare hands if I saw it earlier." 5 different people, 4 completely different opinions about what just happened. All of them correct, because the way you feel is subjective, not objective. How you feel about landing somewhere aside from your original intended destination, or about speeding back instead of just hovering around the area for a while, is subjective. 

Have you ever passed someone on a 2-lane hwy and your passenger freaks out like they almost died? I make the drive from the lower mainland of BC to Edmonton once or twice a year, and if I pass someone and get fully back into my lane with an oncoming car 300 yards away, my wife freaks out. To her "that was a near-death experience". I could do that 2,000 times a day and not a drop of sweat would leave my body, but my wife considers that a near-death experience every time. It takes me an extra hour of driving to make that trip if my wife comes just because I don't pass people. I go 90km/h for hours on end. Plus all the long pit stops. 

So, if Trump wanted the chopper to land at location A, the original intended location, and then that changed while he was in the air and they had to go somewhere else, or it was too rough to hover around there for as long as they originally intended, guess what? He can say that it was a scary ride and they had to make an emergency landing. How Brown and Newsom felt about it is irrelevant. Maybe they ride in copters all the time. 

Contrast this to Hillary saying: "We landed under sniper fire and we had to run", when she actually got off the plane and wandered onto a tarmac with a bunch of people, shook a bunch of hands, smiled at everyone, and they all casually walked off into the sunset and had a nice dinner. 

Hillary is describing a situation that allegedly happened when her feet were already on terra firma, where every human feels at home, not like they do when they're up in a chopper. She describes running from snipers when she was on camera, standing there glad-handing. That was a lie - objectively. An obvious, blatant lie, which leftards dismissed as no big deal. 

Now, maybe she was warned that there might be snipers in the area, so she was more nervous than she let on, I will concede that much, but she wasn't "under sniper fire". That's a 100% objective analysis with a firm conclusion.