Get Ready for the Biggest Wave of Propaganda in the History of the World

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, User said:

Obviously not, based on why you posted it and your response once this was pointed out to you.

No, it is weird that you cite a source that you would then turn around and denounce. 

There is physical evidence, I have outlined this to you many times now. Repeating yourself doesn't make it true or discount what I have provided. 

 

...but I did know what it said. I knew all about their argument when I looked into this 6 years ago lol.

 

And clearly you don't know what physical evidence means. You just can't handle the basics of epistemology.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

...but I did know what it said.

But you didn't. 

You are the equivalent of pee wee hermann falling off his bike and saying "i meant to do that". 

 

[impartialobserver]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But you didn't. 

You are the equivalent of pee wee hermann falling off his bike and saying "i meant to do that". 

 

you have far greater persistence or patience than I. I can't take a holocaust denier even remotely serious. Its like someone claiming that the reason that they were late for work is that aliens abducted them and took them to Jupiter. 

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

you have far greater persistence or patience than I. I can't take a holocaust denier even remotely serious. Its like someone claiming that the reason that they were late for work is that aliens abducted them and took them to Jupiter. 

I see we use the same hiring agency 

You know - in theory i could have some at least sympathy for a holocaust denier and nazi symp if they at least had a coherent argument.  They'd be wrong but if someone had given them a bunch of fake data or something and they were working with what they had and just needed to be shown the truth. 

But when you post cites that clearly show you're wrong.... 

And it's not just a denier. Someone could believe that the holocaust wasn't as bad as it was and still think it was horrible and hate the nazis.  But - on top of that he spent 2 pages trying to convince me that hitler did nothing wrong and the only reason ww2 happened was because france and britian hated germany and conspired to declare war without cause. 

So the guy's a nazi fan as well as a denier AND based on some of his language an anti semite. (kind of goes hand in hand i guess). 

Its hard for me to believe people like that exist, so maybe it's good to see it here so everyone can be reminded there really ARE people that warped out there. 

[impartialobserver]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I see we use the same hiring agency 

You know - in theory i could have some at least sympathy for a holocaust denier and nazi symp if they at least had a coherent argument.  They'd be wrong but if someone had given them a bunch of fake data or something and they were working with what they had and just needed to be shown the truth. 

But when you post cites that clearly show you're wrong.... 

And it's not just a denier. Someone could believe that the holocaust wasn't as bad as it was and still think it was horrible and hate the nazis.  But - on top of that he spent 2 pages trying to convince me that hitler did nothing wrong and the only reason ww2 happened was because france and britian hated germany and conspired to declare war without cause. 

So the guy's a nazi fan as well as a denier AND based on some of his language an anti semite. (kind of goes hand in hand i guess). 

Its hard for me to believe people like that exist, so maybe it's good to see it here so everyone can be reminded there really ARE people that warped out there. 

What is especially laughable is that they insist that all the books, articles, texts, etc written that confirm the existence of the Holocaust is some conspiracy. These people from all over the Globe were all in on it... they coordinated their writings so that they all said the same thing. If you have ever worked with a large group and tried to get them to do the same thing.. you would know that humans are not that predictable or loyal. Getting millions of people across a huge area over 50 years to all follow a certain narrative.. its simply not possible. 

[Nationalist]

Are you guys done with the Heeb-fest now? Can we get back to the Kamala media blitz please?

I just saw a bit of her at a teachers convention. Lol...she's so...horrid. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Are you guys done with the Heeb-fest now? Can we get back to the Kamala media blitz please?

I just saw a bit of her at a teachers convention. Lol...she's so...horrid. 

At the end of the day she's got the same issue  as biden. She's a bad candidate and what track record she has is really not great - if this election becomes all about her she loses.  If it becomes all about trump she'll win. 

SO far it looks like she's going to play the V card and race card as a back up and go hard on  Plan 2025 - which trump hasn't even read but she'll claim is his personal objective.  

That's a bad plan because it's 1000 pages long and NOBODY is going to read it or understand it and i just don't see the average person being convinced it's some sort of threat. 

We won't know much till things settle down -  she's got to pick a team to put together a strategy, she's going to come up with said strategy, and she's still got to secure the nomination and right now is mostly about her trying to convince voters that it's ok that she was 'appointed' rather than 'elected' as nominee. 

[CouchPotato]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Are you guys done with the Heeb-fest now? Can we get back to the Kamala media blitz please?

I just saw a bit of her at a teachers convention. Lol...she's so...horrid. 

She reminds me a bit of Trudeau in that she often sounds like a student called to the front of the class to give a presentation on a book she didn't read. She doesn't know what she is saying, but she throws in a few platitudes and words that might kind of sound smart and hopes for a homerun.

Trump also didn't read the book. But he did ask someone who read the Cliff's Notes to explain it to him. When he talks about it, he gets many details wrong, but he knows the general outline of the story and says things that many people happen to agree with.

"That girl really shouldn't have cried 'Bear!' so many times. In the end, no one believed her," Trump might say.

For me and many people who like Trump, that's close enough. He gets the obvious point, and he says it out loud, even when it's not politically correct. No one else is doing it. To be fair there may be people who read the story, know every detail and get the point. Some of them are too scared to say the point. The intellectuals who are brave enough to talk about it, however, will just write yet another 1000-page book explaining why something obvious is obvious, or they will talk about it on their podcast in a nice leather chair with a bookshelf behind them and classical music playing in the background.

Edited July 25, 2024 by CouchPotato

[User]

8 hours ago, Five of swords said:

And clearly you don't know what physical evidence means. You just can't handle the basics of epistemology.

Clearly I do, as you have ignored it repeatedly when I have pointed it out to you. 

This is just a quick summary and not a comprehensive list of all the physical evidence associated with all of these things:

They have investigator reports after WWII reviewing this site. We have years of archeological digs that have unearthed the Nazi structures. We have the physical evidence of the train station, tracks, graves, bones, ash, the way the earth has settled, and where bodies were buried, all corroborating the witness testimony to all of this.

[Black Dog]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

At the end of the day she's got the same issue  as biden. She's a bad candidate and what track record she has is really not great - if this election becomes all about her she loses.  If it becomes all about trump she'll win. 

SO far it looks like she's going to play the V card and race card as a back up and go hard on  Plan 2025 - which trump hasn't even read but she'll claim is his personal objective.  

Trump hasn't read anything since 1987, that's not the argument, dumb dumb.

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That's a bad plan because it's 1000 pages long and NOBODY is going to read it or understand it and i just don't see the average person being convinced it's some sort of threat. 

 

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Project 2025 has seen a significant increase in both awareness and unfavorability since our last survey in June. 54 percent of Americans report being familiar with Project 2025, up 25 points since our last survey in late June. Among those familiar with the Project 2025, just 11 percent view it favorably, while 43 percent view it unfavorably, a 24 point increase in its unfavorable rating since last month. 

https://navigatorresearch.org/project-2025-has-become-significantly-more-unfavorable-since-trump-attempted-to-distance-himself-from-the-plan/

And this was before Biden dropped out!

 

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Trump hasn't read anything since 1987, that's not the argument, dumb dumb.

 

That would literally be the perfect argument Dumber-dumber

 He FULLY ENDORSES AND AGREES....  with something he's never read at all. Yeah you're a genius   

 

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https://navigatorresearch.org/project-2025-has-become-significantly-more-unfavorable-since-trump-attempted-to-distance-himself-from-the-plan/

And this was before Biden dropped out!

 

so an ultra left opinion piece says democrats who don't actually know what's in 2025 have a more negative opinon now that the democrat party has been running around screaming about how it's all trump's idea. LOLOL well that's sure proof of... what?

 The dems are going to tell lies about trump. We know that. hard core dems will believe the lies.  We know that - 8 years of fake 'russian collusion' nonsense showed the world THAT much. 

But it's not going to stick. People looking for a reason to hate trump will latch on to whatever - i doubt ANY of those people could accuately describe what it calls for. I doubt YOU can without looking it up.  I can't. 

So there you go  

[Five of swords]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I see we use the same hiring agency 

You know - in theory i could have some at least sympathy for a holocaust denier and nazi symp if they at least had a coherent argument.  They'd be wrong but if someone had given them a bunch of fake data or something and they were working with what they had and just needed to be shown the truth. 

But when you post cites that clearly show you're wrong.... 

And it's not just a denier. Someone could believe that the holocaust wasn't as bad as it was and still think it was horrible and hate the nazis.  But - on top of that he spent 2 pages trying to convince me that hitler did nothing wrong and the only reason ww2 happened was because france and britian hated germany and conspired to declare war without cause. 

So the guy's a nazi fan as well as a denier AND based on some of his language an anti semite. (kind of goes hand in hand i guess). 

Its hard for me to believe people like that exist, so maybe it's good to see it here so everyone can be reminded there really ARE people that warped out there. 

But you are unable to either recognize or make a coherent argument on anything...

18 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

What is especially laughable is that they insist that all the books, articles, texts, etc written that confirm the existence of the Holocaust is some conspiracy. These people from all over the Globe were all in on it... they coordinated their writings so that they all said the same thing. If you have ever worked with a large group and tried to get them to do the same thing.. you would know that humans are not that predictable or loyal. Getting millions of people across a huge area over 50 years to all follow a certain narrative.. its simply not possible. 

Books don't prove any holocaust...and the narrative hasn't been universally followed

[User]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

But you are unable to either recognize or make a coherent argument on anything...

Wow, talk about projection. 

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

Books don't prove any holocaust...and the narrative hasn't been universally followed

Notice here, how you completely avoided the point, that folks like you have to believe this is all some grand conspiracy while you stick your heads in the sand and ignore all the evidence. 

[Five of swords]

40 minutes ago, User said:

Wow, talk about projection. 

Notice here, how you completely avoided the point, that folks like you have to believe this is all some grand conspiracy while you stick your heads in the sand and ignore all the evidence. 

Zero evidence

[User]

23 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Zero evidence

That is an outright lie at this point in the discussion. 

[Five of swords]

1 minute ago, User said:

That is an outright lie at this point in the discussion. 

No, the only thing made clear from this discussion is that you are incapable of objective reasoning. To have evidence for the holocaust you have to produce something that should not exist if the holocaust didn't happen. Just like a regular murder charge...fingerprints on a murder weapon, for example, counts as physical evidence. There is no such thing for the holocaust. The only evidence for it is eyewitness testimony t

[Black Dog]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That would literally be the perfect argument Dumber-dumber  He FULLY ENDORSES AND AGREES....  with something he's never read at all. Yeah you're a genius   

"Jokes on you our candidate is actually illiterate" is a great campaign line, you guys should run with that.

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so an ultra left opinion piece says democrats who don't actually know what's in 2025 have a more negative opinon now that the democrat party has been running around screaming about how it's all trump's idea. LOLOL well that's sure proof of... what?

 The dems are going to tell lies about trump. We know that. hard core dems will believe the lies.  We know that - 8 years of fake 'russian collusion' nonsense showed the world THAT much. 

But it's not going to stick. People looking for a reason to hate trump will latch on to whatever - i doubt ANY of those people could accuately describe what it calls for. I doubt YOU can without looking it up.  I can't. 

So there you go

 

LOL you think Trump's little boo-boo is going to swing the election in his favour even though there's no evidence anyone outside of MAGAverse cares, your political instincts are dogshit.

27 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Zero evidence

I like how you went from "I'm not denying the holocaust, I'm just saying we don't have any physical evidence" to outright Holocaust denial in like a day. Nazi loser.

[User]

22 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

No, the only thing made clear from this discussion is that you are incapable of objective reasoning. To have evidence for the holocaust you have to produce something that should not exist if the holocaust didn't happen. Just like a regular murder charge...fingerprints on a murder weapon, for example, counts as physical evidence. There is no such thing for the holocaust. The only evidence for it is eyewitness testimony t

At this point, you can no longer engage on the subject, so you are going to try to make this about me and just keep doubling down on your bogus assertion about no evidence. 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Five of swords said:

But you are unable to either recognize or make a coherent argument on anything...

 

Says the guy who's been literally wrong about everything   AND managed to provide sources that prove he was wrong, bonus points for that  

Also, 1)  - that WAS actually coherent, you're just not familiar with what 'coherent' looks like apparently  and 2)  That was a discussion with someone else.  You don't "Make an argument"  in a discussion, it's just a discussion. 

As it happens it was a discussion about how stupid you are and look!! You showed up to prove the point   well done   

The evidence for the holocaust far exceeds "beyond a reasonable doubt".   Sorry kiddo, your hero Hitler was a bad dude and killed a lot of people out of pure evil. 

[CdnFox]

57 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

"Jokes on you our candidate is actually illiterate" is a great campaign line, you guys should run with that.

That might have been the joke if you'd said he CAN'T read, but claiming he hasn't read anything for a while means he can read and just hasn't. 

I'll explain how humour works to you when we have time one of these days    

 

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LOL you think Trump's little boo-boo is going to swing the election in his favour even though there's no evidence anyone outside of MAGAverse cares, your political instincts are dogshit.

You always have to lie about what people say to try desperately to make a point   

I have never made any such claim.  But - it will have an impact and people do care. It will make it easier to get out his vote, it will unite the party behind him which is very important and it'll help with fundraising. 

That's not going to guarantee him the election but it is for sure going to give him momentum and give him a nice bump. 

 

[Black Dog]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That might have been the joke if you'd said he CAN'T read, but claiming he hasn't read anything for a while means he can read and just hasn't. I'll explain how humour works to you when we have time one of these days    

If you think "he CAN read he's just completely intellectually incurious and ignorant" is a better line, fill your boots.

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You always have to lie about what people say to try desperately to make a point   

I have never made any such claim.  But - it will have an impact and people do care. It will make it easier to get out his vote, it will unite the party behind him which is very important and it'll help with fundraising. 

That's not going to guarantee him the election but it is for sure going to give him momentum and give him a nice bump. 

You literally said "...it's all but guaranteed him the election." I know you say a lot of dumb garbage so it's hard to keep track of it all, you should be grateful someone around here doesn't have a brain like a sieve.

Edited July 26, 2024 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

If you think "he CAN read he's just completely intellectually incurious and ignorant" is a better line, fill your boots.

I think he's not interested in reading 1000 pages of nonsense about project 2025 - but that's a problem for your guys.  You can't claim that it's what he's going to do if he's never even read it  and that seems to be one of Kamala's key avenue's of attack.  So that's going to be a fizzle. 

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You literally said "...it's all but guaranteed him the election." 

Sure but not in absence of everything else and it's not 'swinging" the election.  He was already winning, biden was already devastated by his bad performance and was sinking, and this would have just put him nicely over the top.  You don't 'swing' an election you're already winning. 

Of course biden was insisting he was staying on at that point and there was no chance he'd step down   So my comment was made with that in mind  

But sure  against biden it would have moved trump outside of the range of him being able to catch up. He  went from "most likely to win" to "almost certain to win",  which is one of the reasons the dems were freaking out and looking to replace him. 

That's very different than "Swinging" an election -  he was already winning and this would have just made him MORE winning  

You always have to lie. 

[Black Dog]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I think he's not interested in reading 1000 pages of nonsense about project 2025 - but that's a problem for your guys.  You can't claim that it's what he's going to do if he's never even read it  and that seems to be one of Kamala's key avenue's of attack.  So that's going to be a fizzle. 

Your understanding of political messaging is almost child-like (if we're talking about a very stupid child).  Do you think people believe Presidents read each an every single policy document in depth before he approves it, let alone Trump, a guy who doesn't read anything he's given?

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Sure but not in absence of everything else and it's not 'swinging" the election.  He was already winning, biden was already devastated by his bad performance and was sinking, and this would have just put him nicely over the top.  You don't 'swing' an election you're already winning. 

It's hilarious how many of your arguments pivot on minor irrelevant semantic differences, like Clinton arguing about the definition of sexual relations but without the wit and charm.

Anyway, the big point here is no one gives a shit that Trump almost got domed a week ago and that's extremely hilarious.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

Your understanding of political messaging is almost child-like (if we're talking about a very stupid child). 

Snicker -  tell me you're feeling desperate without telling me  

 

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Do you think people believe Presidents read each an every single policy document in depth before he approves it, let alone Trump, a guy who doesn't read anything he's given?

I know that's exactly what people think and it's exactly what the dems will have to sell. "TRUMP KNOWS THE PLAN, TRUMP SUPPORTS THE PLAN, TRUMP BASICALLY WROTE THE PLAN!!"

But as it becomes clear that he's barely even heard of it  then that goes out the window. Watch- the left media will become more and more desperate trying to sell this   Pretty soon it'lll be "the fact he doesn't know about the plan is proof he's going to do the plan"   

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It's hilarious how many of your arguments pivot on minor irrelevant semantic differences, like Clinton arguing about the definition of sexual relations but without the wit and charm.

It's hilarious how many of your arguments end in childish and desperate statements like this when you realize you were wrong yet again   

Anyway the big point is that trump getting shot has already strengthened his position and it will continue to do so over time. 

Which its the only reason you're insisting it won't. Denial is like a way of life for you  

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, User said:

At this point, you can no longer engage on the subject, so you are going to try to make this about me and just keep doubling down on your bogus assertion about no evidence. 

 

Yup. I will keep doubling down on that. And your inability to understand that train stations would exist whether or not gas chambers existed is your own problem, not mine.