gatomontes99 Posted July 20, 2024 Report Posted July 20, 2024 Last I heard it was 31. Any more join the call to scrap democratic policies for those of an autocracy? 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted July 20, 2024 Report Posted July 20, 2024 Almost all of the House RepubliCONS and MANY of the Senate RepubliCONS voted to NOT certify the 2020 EC vote count, so the answer to your question is MOST of the elected RepubliCONS. LMAO Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 20, 2024 Author Report Posted July 20, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, robosmith said: Almost all of the House RepubliCONS and MANY of the Senate RepubliCONS voted to NOT certify the 2020 EC vote count, so the answer to your question is MOST of the elected RepubliCONS. LMAO Really? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/despite-objections-congress-certifies-donald-trump-s-election-n704026 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/02/democrats-congress-trump-january-6/677545/ https://rumble.com/v1k31k5-flashback-democrats-objecting-to-trump-electoral-votes.html https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/colorado-trump-14th-amendment-12-19-23/index.html And now they are axing Biden AFTER the primary voters chose him. Not because he's suddenly incompetent. They've known that for 5+ years. If he was incompetent, they would 25th him. They won't. They are doing this solely because they know he can't win and they don't care if they are bypassing the democratic process, they need to win. Vpters be damned. Edited July 20, 2024 by gatomontes99 2 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted July 20, 2024 Report Posted July 20, 2024 12 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Really? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/despite-objections-congress-certifies-donald-trump-s-election-n704026 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/02/democrats-congress-trump-january-6/677545/ https://rumble.com/v1k31k5-flashback-democrats-objecting-to-trump-electoral-votes.html https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/colorado-trump-14th-amendment-12-19-23/index.html And now they are axing Biden AFTER the primary voters chose him. Not because he's suddenly incompetent. They've known that for 5+ years. If he was incompetent, they would 25th him. They won't. They are doing this solely because they know he can't win and they don't care if they are bypassing the democratic process, they need to win. Vpters be damned. They don't "know" he can't win. And NO ONE has DONE ANYTHING to keep Joe from running. ADVOCATION is NOT ACTION. They are at most, ASKING him to step down. Duh. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 20, 2024 Author Report Posted July 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: They don't "know" he can't win. And NO ONE has DONE ANYTHING to keep Joe from running. ADVOCATION is NOT ACTION. They are at most, ASKING him to step down. Duh. Uh, yeah 31+ democrats are demanding he leave. That includes Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer. His donors have stopped all funding. Joe has only raised 25% of the funds they expected from big donors. Forcing him to resign is still forcing him out and usurping the will of the "democratic" primary voters. They KNOW he can't win. They KNOW it like they KNOW there are 41 genders, or whatever. President Joe Biden’s favorability numbers plummeted after his debate performance last week in “the largest single-week drop” in nearly three years, according to a leaked memo from a pollster that was published Tuesday by the news site Puck. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
herbie Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 (edited) The onl;y comment I will make is that some Democrats can change their minds when circumstances change. Unlike Republican who will stick to their guns no matter how wrong that is and all fall in line, bending the knee. Spineless sycophants who not a one raised a voice at their Coronation. Edited July 21, 2024 by herbie Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 21, 2024 Author Report Posted July 21, 2024 Just now, herbie said: The onl;y comment I will make is that some Democrats can change their minds when circumstances change. Unlike Republican who will stick to their guns no matter how wrong that is and all fall in line, bending the knee. Spineless sycophants who not a one raised a voice at their Coronation. Oh ok...so democratic process is great unless the elite change their mind. Then anointing a new leader is a.o.k. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 54 minutes ago, herbie said: Spineless sycophants who not a one raised a voice at their Coronation. Democrats have been hiding the fact that Biden is unfit for years, covering for him, lying, never saying a word... until it was obvious on national TV during the debate. Only then did a few start to speak up... and most of it has been anonymous leaks now. Democrats were the spineless sycophants, perfectly willing to elect Biden and hide his condition if they could have gotten away with it. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 The MAGA hats want a king. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 21, 2024 Author Report Posted July 21, 2024 44 minutes ago, Aristides said: The MAGA hats want a king. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 That link doesn't support your thesis. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 (edited) 15 hours ago, herbie said: The onl;y comment I will make is that some Democrats can change their minds when circumstances change. Unlike Republican who will stick to their guns no matter how wrong that is and all fall in line, bending the knee. Spineless sycophants who not a one raised a voice at their Coronation. Lol...the Democrats LIED for the entire presidency. Even a kid could tell Brandon was having mental and physical issues. Yet all you goofs covered it up and LIED...A LOT! Meh...Trump will win the Whitehouse, you liars will scream, normal folks will watch your antics, laugh at you and think... Ya gits wut ya pays fer...twits. Edited July 21, 2024 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CouchPotato Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 Gotta bypass democracy to save democracy. Quote
Aristides Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 10 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: That link doesn't support your thesis. Sure does. Quote Many legal experts have said it would undermine the rule of law,[14] the separation of powers,[5] the separation of church and state,[15] and civil liberties.[5][14][16] It wants to concentrate as much power in the Oval Office as possible. Quote
Aristides Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: Gotta bypass democracy to save democracy. How so? Any new leader would be chosen during the convention. You blather on about the Democrats circumventing democracy by changing their leader but blindly support the Republicans making thousands of civil servants political appointees beholden to dear leader for their positions. Edited July 21, 2024 by Aristides Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 21, 2024 Author Report Posted July 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: Sure does. It wants to concentrate as much power in the Oval Office as possible. It isn't concentrating power. It is using the power that is already there. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CouchPotato Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: You blather on about the Democrats circumventing democracy by changing their leader but blindly support the Republicans making thousands of civil servants political appointees beholden to dear leader for their positions. I do? Quote
Aristides Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: I do? Well, what are you going on about? Quote
Aristides Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: It isn't concentrating power. It is using the power that is already there. It's absolutely concentrating power by making the civil service a political tool. Kind of like when Hitler demanded an oath of loyalty to him personally, rather than to a constitution or country. You are intent of making a joke of the constitution you Americans love to crow about. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 21, 2024 Author Report Posted July 21, 2024 Just now, Aristides said: It's absolutely concentrating power by making the civil service a political tool. Kind of like when Hitler demanded an oath of loyalty to him personally, rather than to a constitution or country. You are intent of making a joke of the constitution you Americans love to crow about. People are policy. Why should Republicans cede that to democrats? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: It's absolutely concentrating power by making the civil service a political tool. The civil service is already a political tool. The point Trump is making is that the administration in office should have their policy and goals followed and implemented, not an unelected bureaucracy doing everything they can behind the scenes to fight and oppose that. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 14 minutes ago, Aristides said: It's absolutely concentrating power by making the civil service a political tool. Kind of like when Hitler demanded an oath of loyalty to him personally, rather than to a constitution or country. You are intent of making a joke of the constitution you Americans love to crow about. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roger-stone-arrested-video-fbi-raid-trump-associate-house-today-2019-01-25/ Huh... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 (edited) 19 minutes ago, User said: The civil service is already a political tool. The point Trump is making is that the administration in office should have their policy and goals followed and implemented, not an unelected bureaucracy doing everything they can behind the scenes to fight and oppose that. Civil servants work for the country regardless of the administration and remain the same regardless of changes in administration. You want to make them beholden to the person in the Oval Office and give a president the power to fire them all and put his own people in these positions. Continuity would go out the window as each president puts their political hacks in place. This is a fundamental change that makes the civil service a tool of the president rather than the servant of the people and constitution. You don't really believe in democracy and separation of powers if you agree with something like that. This is how autocracies function. Edited July 21, 2024 by Aristides Quote
User Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: Civil servants work for the country regardless of the administration and remain the same regardless of changes in administration. You want to make them beholden to the person in the Oval Office and give a president the power to fire them all and put his own people in these positions. Continuity would go out the window as each president puts their political hacks in place. This is a fundamental change that makes the civil service a tool of the president rather than the servant of the people and constitution. You don't really believe in democracy and separation of powers if you agree with something like that. This is how autocracies function. The civil service is not working for the country, they are people protected by a bureaucracy and they wield their power and influence. This needs to come to an end. You are the one who doesn't support democracy and supports authoritarianism when you defend this unelected bureaucracy wielding its power over us. Quote
Aristides Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 28 minutes ago, User said: The civil service is not working for the country, they are people protected by a bureaucracy and they wield their power and influence. This needs to come to an end. You are the one who doesn't support democracy and supports authoritarianism when you defend this unelected bureaucracy wielding its power over us. You need continuity to run a government, not political hacks who have to start from zero learning their departments and jobs with every administration. Making civil servants beholden to a single person for their positions is not democracy, it is autocracy. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 to be honest, biden was a political appointee by the elites. The real winner of that nomination process was Bernie Sanders. But the party knew they couldn't run an actual communist and win. So Joe was a compromise candidate that everyone agreed on, they pushed Bernie out of the way and joe was supposed to be "Transitional". Now they're going to have to parachute in another candidate of their choice because they have no options. They move farther and farther away from a democratic process each time Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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