No question who the buffoon is cheering for

[Deluge]

34 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

If you sell something to them you take their money. If you hire them to make your products and steal American jobs they take YOUR money. Dumbass. 

You sell the country's land to an enemy then that gives them a foothold in this country. That makes you a f*cking traitor. It's no surprise that a scumbag like you supports this shit. 

[Deluge]

21 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

FACT:  Russia China North Korea and Iran are all allies and by extension so are Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah. They all support each other economically and militarily. All of them are anti-woke. If you are supporting one of them you are supporting all of them. 
 

You’re such a dumb uneducated china slut you don’t even know how much of a dumb uneducated china slut you are. 

ACTUAL FACT: Your dear friends, the illegal aliens, are pouring into this country every f*cking day and probably all of the above countries are contributing their own share of human trash. 

No, slut, every single one of those countries are aligned with you dumbf*cks, not us.  

 

Edited June 19, 2024 by Deluge

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

If you sell something to them you take their money. If you hire them to make your products and steal American jobs they take YOUR money. Dumbass. 

That's really not how economy works. Selling each other things is actually good.  We give them money, they give us things we want, that's fine. 

China doesn't really steal American jobs on the aggregate. China does things that Americans can't do quite as cheap, america does things that the Chinese can't do. There is a strong argument that we shouldn't be leaving our markets as open without demanding that they open up their markets more. But other than that there's no crime of any sort in just doing business. Business is what pays for everything that we have. The more people we do business with the better generally speaking.

Now  selling them strategic assets or key land in your country..,, that's a little different. 

Edited June 19, 2024 by CdnFox

[WestCanMan]

On 6/16/2024 at 9:35 AM, myata said:

Right at the time when the new Axis of aggressive dictators is rising Trump threatened to cut the aid to Ukraine if reelected.

There's no question who is he cheering for, and will be working for. And he never really tried to hide it.

So, no pretending ignorance. Not a fun lottery: only the citizenship test.

What do you think that America's billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars are achieving in Ukraine right now? Is the border moving back eastwards? 

No, it isn't. So why throw good money after bad?

Trump said that he will end that war on day 1, so it will probably end on day 12 and you can all call him a liar if you want, but right now all that Biden's massive spending spree is achieving is a death toll, and some hefty military industrial complex profits.

What would you like to achieve in Ukraine? Is it happening right now? Is Biden's ultra-expensive war paying dividends for Ukrainians and Americans, or just for the war profiteers? 

[BeaverFever]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You truly are a short sighted blob.

Yes it is.and what's even more hilarious is that I didn't say that. But ya...I'm not surprised that's what you think I said.

 

I said no such thing. Must you lie so often?

The joke's on you Sweetums.

Russia and North Korea sign mutual defence pact

The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, and the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, have signed a pact that includes a clause requiring the countries to come to each other’s aid if either is attacked, a move that has raised western concerns about potential Russian aid for Pyongyang’s missile or nuclear programmes.

The inclusion of a mutual defence clause in their comprehensive strategic partnership, which Kim described as an “alliance”, will add to the west’s alarm over growing economic and military ties between North Korea and Russia. The deal was finalised on Wednesday after hours of talks in the North Korean capital, Pyongyang.
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/19/russia-and-north-korea-sign-mutual-defence-pact
 

In your demented logic you think this proves they’re enemies

 

Yo are hilarious 

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's really not how economy works. Selling each other things is actually good.  We give them money, they give us things we want, that's fine. 

China doesn't really steal American jobs on the aggregate. China does things that Americans can't do quite as cheap, america does things that the Chinese can't do. There is a strong argument that we shouldn't be leaving our markets as open without demanding that they open up their markets more. But other than that there's no crime of any sort in just doing business. Business is what pays for everything that we have. The more people we do business with the better generally speaking.

Now  selling them strategic assets or key land in your country..,, that's a little different. 

And yet your simplistic fellow traveller insists that anyone selling to China is a traitor so Im just throwing his logic back in his face

But Im curious are you now claiming to be a one of those “globalists” so hated by the right?  After decades of defending outsourcing American jobs to cheap overseas labour especially China, Republicans under Trumpism now CLAIM to oppose this saying these should be good paying American jobs even if they make things more expensive 

[BeaverFever]

7 hours ago, Deluge said:

There's a difference between doing business with the Chinese and selling our own land to them, stupid, or do you not understand the difference? lol

Not really and Im sure you wouldn’t have to look far to find a Republican who has sold real estate to a Chinese entity because America is still in a globalized economy and private property is private property. It belongs to the owner to sell their real estate to whomever they please. Amd it’s  not “your” land it’s his, what are you some kind of communist?

 

So your insinuation that someone selling privately owned reality estate is somehow sacred from other business deals or that selling it to  a Chinese buyer is some unprecedented and unheard of act of treason instead of a routine business deal in the globalized capitalist trade system Republicans worked so hard to create is ridiculous. 
 

You are still the China slut. 

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

ACTUAL FACT: Your dear friends, the illegal aliens, are pouring into this country every f*cking day and probably all of the above countries are contributing their own share of human trash. 

No, slut, every single one of those countries are aligned with you dumbf*cks, not us.  

 

None of my friends are illegal aliens amd I don’t think anyone can comprehend what you mean about those countries contributing toward it. I am sure illegal immigration from North Korea, Yemen, Gaza, Russia China and Iran is relatively low. 

[BeaverFever]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yes it is.and what's even more hilarious is that I didn't say that. But ya...I'm not surprised that's what you think I said.

So here’s your chance to redeem yourself and clarify what you meant when you said he was “keeping his enemies close”. 
 

Go ahead we’re listening. 

[CdnFox]

57 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

None of my friends are illegal aliens amd I don’t think anyone can comprehend what you mean about those countries contributing toward it. I am sure illegal immigration from North Korea, Yemen, Gaza, Russia China and Iran is relatively low. 

Why are you sure? Other than it suits your argument, what are you basing that on?

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why are you sure? Other than it suits your argument, what are you basing that on?

Because large numbers only come from places where migrants can reach North America easily by land or sea ie Americas and the carribbean,  When you have to arrive by plane and clear customs it’s a lot harder to arrive in large numbers  And a lot of those places like NK are notoriously hard to leave  

Also there’s the fact that nobody has ever attempted to claim hordes of illegals from those countries are arriving in the US. 

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Because large numbers only come from places where migrants can reach North America easily by land or sea ie Americas and the carribbean,  When you have to arrive by plane and clear customs it’s a lot harder to arrive in large numbers  And a lot of those places like NK are notoriously hard to leave  

Also there’s the fact that nobody has ever attempted to claim hordes of illegals from those countries are arriving in the US. 

Well there ARE a fair number of reports that people from those places are coming in through mexico. They fly there and then cross.  I don't know if it would be considered "relatively' low or high, it's certainly lower than the number of mexicans and south americans i would think but it does sound substantial.  A few examples:

'It’s a diverse group, but they have this in common: They are participants in a spike in illegal Chinese migration at the U.S.-Mexico border. In fiscal year 2021, Border Patrol encountered 330 mainland Chinese migrants between official ports of entry on the U.S. side of the border. In 2023, that number soared to 24,050. This year, encounters are on track to reach 60,000. 

Why Chinese migrants cross US southern border in growing numbers - CSMonitor.com

So what's the fastest growing group among them? Chinese migrants. Yes, you heard that right…Chinese. We saw large groups, including many from the middle class, come through a 4-foot gap at the end of a border fence 60 miles east of San Diego.

The illegal entryway is a new route for those hoping to live in America. 

Just after sunrise, we saw the first group of migrants make their way from Mexico…through a gap between the 30 foot steel border fence and rocks. 

Ducking under a bit of razor wire and into the United States.

Chinese migrants are the fastest growing group crossing from Mexico into U.S. at southern border - CBS News

 

I could post a bunch more, but there's some on other countries on your list there as well. 

It seems that if it hasn't been a big problem in the past, it's growing into one now

[Hodad]

On 6/18/2024 at 5:21 PM, Nationalist said:

Must you people be so...simple? So...mono-dimentional? Think for a change!

"Keep your friends close...but your enemies closer."

Dear Gawd.

I'd ask your indulgence for a second, to please pay some heed to my plea?

Please stop letting stoopid folks become leaders?

Please?

Sorry, but Trump was shitty to our friends and kept our enemies so close they were deep inside him. 

[myata]

He wrote love letters to Jong Un who led him around his fat finger. That means something for sure, a deep connection of souls?

"You will have many great years of celebration and success. Your country will soon be on a historic and prosperous path."

[Nationalist]

14 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

So here’s your chance to redeem yourself and clarify what you meant when you said he was “keeping his enemies close”. 
 

Go ahead we’re listening. 

Trump had Un at bay. Hell he even walked into NK to meet Un. Trump also thought that Russia and the USA could be allies. Had that happened, none of what we experience today would be happening. Even China would have been cowed by such an alliance. 

Your problem is not uncommon...unfortunately.  you hear "Russia" and immediately assume "Stalin". Immediately assume the worst. You are brainwashed. Devoid of calm, rational thought. Incapable of thinking past what the MSM feeds you.

As a result, BRICS is gathering momentum. A real threat to the petro-dollar which is growing every year. Russia, China, North Korea and Iran are now formal allies. Isreal now finds itself in deep doo-doo and Ukraine is waste deep in doo-doo. NATO's saber rattling is being called and my guess is, when push comes to shove, the USA will turn tail and run. Because...that's what Brandon does. My hope is thus...

WWIII is put on hold till November. After Trump wins, opens the regulatory bullshit and closes the border...he'll begin real negotiations with all 4 of them. He'll impose a peace deal on comic-boy, probably based on Russia's latest offer. He'll impose peace in Isreal by making a realistic deal with Iran...which...BTW...Will placate NATO's second largest military in...Turkey. He'll also..likely...make a deal with BRICS in order to halt the erosion of the usd.

You Tweenkies will scream and freak out. But the results will be a visible and rather quick turn around of US internal and international problems.

Oh and...Europe will be able to get nat gas from Russia again.

All around positive results. Except for NATO and the EU.Which I forsee some rather tough times ahead. What a pitty...

[Deluge]

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

None of my friends are illegal aliens amd I don’t think anyone can comprehend what you mean about those countries contributing toward it. I am sure illegal immigration from North Korea, Yemen, Gaza, Russia China and Iran is relatively low. 

Your friends are America hating psychopaths, just like you. It's why you woketards stand behind Biden and his open borders policy. Each of those countries have at least SOME of your pals illegally crossing our borders. 

My question is, what do you communists think you're gaining by letting criminal invaders trample over our immigration laws? 

[Deluge]

3 hours ago, myata said:

He wrote love letters to Jong Un who led him around his fat finger. That means something for sure, a deep connection of souls?

"You will have many great years of celebration and success. Your country will soon be on a historic and prosperous path."

Link the "love letters", crybaby. Context is certainly in order here. lol

[myata]

Brain dead and/or hereditary blind needn't worry.

"I like him. He likes me. ... And then we fell in love. OK? No, really! He wrote me beautiful letters. And they're great letters. We fell in love. Now they'll say [imitates anchorman]: "Donald Trump said they fell in love. How horrible how horrible is that? So unpresidential!"

Looks like the attraction was mutual, in a playful way: "I will surely and definitely tame the mentally deranged U.S. dotard with fire."

 

[CdnFox]

56 minutes ago, myata said:

Brain dead and/or hereditary blind needn't worry.

"I like him. He likes me. ... And then we fell in love. OK? No, really! He wrote me beautiful letters. And they're great letters. We fell in love. Now they'll say [imitates anchorman]: "Donald Trump said they fell in love. How horrible how horrible is that? So unpresidential!"

Looks like the attraction was mutual, in a playful way: "I will surely and definitely tame the mentally deranged U.S. dotard with fire."

 

So he called it a love letter as a joke and then pretended to be an Anchorman mocking him for it as a further joke and you're presenting it as a real thing.

Is this because you don't understand humor? I understand a lot of robots don't. And god knows you behave like a buggy AI at the best of times

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Trump had Un at bay. Hell he even walked into NK to meet Un. Trump also thought that Russia and the USA could be allies. Had that happened, none of what we experience today would be happening. Even China would have been cowed by such an alliance. 

Your problem is not uncommon...unfortunately.  you hear "Russia" and immediately assume "Stalin". Immediately assume the worst. You are brainwashed. Devoid of calm, rational thought. Incapable of thinking past what the MSM feeds you.

As a result, BRICS is gathering momentum. A real threat to the petro-dollar which is growing every year. Russia, China, North Korea and Iran are now formal allies. Isreal now finds itself in deep doo-doo and Ukraine is waste deep in doo-doo. NATO's saber rattling is being called and my guess is, when push comes to shove, the USA will turn tail and run. Because...that's what Brandon does. My hope is thus...

WWIII is put on hold till November. After Trump wins, opens the regulatory bullshit and closes the border...he'll begin real negotiations with all 4 of them. He'll impose a peace deal on comic-boy, probably based on Russia's latest offer. He'll impose peace in Isreal by making a realistic deal with Iran...which...BTW...Will placate NATO's second largest military in...Turkey. He'll also..likely...make a deal with BRICS in order to halt the erosion of the usd.

You Tweenkies will scream and freak out. But the results will be a visible and rather quick turn around of US internal and international problems.

Oh and...Europe will be able to get nat gas from Russia again.

All around positive results. Except for NATO and the EU.Which I forsee some rather tough times ahead. What a pitty...

Trump had a very interesting diplomatic methodology. Many have wondered if it's by accident or intent but it's actually not the first time we've seen it.

Trump basically acts A little crazy and takes everything to one extreme or the other. Nothing is just "Good", it's the best most amazing thing ever since the beginning of time. Nothing is just "Bad", it's the worst thing that's ever happened ever and we should all lament that we were alive to see it.

It gives his political counterparts a difficult position. They must either try and court happy trump and keep him that way or face the wrath and complete overreaction of angry trump.

And trump runs around acting crazy and then his diplomats can run around behind him talking to foreign nations saying "Look, I can't control this guy. He's nuts. We really need you to give him what he wants or else I can't say for sure what's going to happen. He's not reasonable you see! So just give him what he wants before he blows us all up!" 

And surprisingly that's an effective tactic. As long as the other side genuinely believes that your guy is unhinged and that normal diplomatic techniques won't work then you can very frequently get away with a lot and everybody sits back nervously not wanting to provoke anything.

 

And lo and behold, sure enough nobody was willing to risk doing anything while trump was president. You can complain about the method but you can't complain about the results.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, myata said:

Brain dead and/or hereditary blind needn't worry.

"I like him. He likes me. ... And then we fell in love. OK? No, really! He wrote me beautiful letters. And they're great letters. We fell in love. Now they'll say [imitates anchorman]: "Donald Trump said they fell in love. How horrible how horrible is that? So unpresidential!"

Looks like the attraction was mutual, in a playful way: "I will surely and definitely tame the mentally deranged U.S. dotard with fire."

 

OK...I have now concluded that you're nothing more than a petulant teen who is also unfortunately...dumb as a stump.

Tell me Mushmouth...would you rather have an adversary hate your guts? Or have your adversary actually relax and begin to like you?

I await your answer.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

OK...I have now concluded that you're nothing more than a petulant teen who is also unfortunately...dumb as a stump.

Tell me Mushmouth...would you rather have an adversary hate your guts? Or have your adversary actually relax and begin to like you?

I await your answer.

I believe you thinks that international diplomacy is basically identical to all-Star wrestling. You show up and trash talk the other guy constantly rather than trying to work things out. 

"OOOOOOOoooo  little rocket man.... i'm gonna bring the paaaaaain to north korea! THE PAAAAAAAAAIN!!! You will feel the POWER of my ULTIIMATE MOVE!!! THE FLYING TRUMP RUMP FACE BUMP!!!!! Eat my ass you little yellow beach ball!  NOW   how about improving trade and a freeze on missile testing.  I'll have them bring cake, let's talk. "

I"m sure that's how it goes in his head. Reality is that there are better ways. 

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I believe you thinks that international diplomacy is basically identical to all-Star wrestling. You show up and trash talk the other guy constantly rather than trying to work things out. 

"OOOOOOOoooo  little rocket man.... i'm gonna bring the paaaaaain to north korea! THE PAAAAAAAAAIN!!! You will feel the POWER of my ULTIIMATE MOVE!!! THE FLYING TRUMP RUMP FACE BUMP!!!!! Eat my ass you little yellow beach ball!  NOW   how about improving trade and a freeze on missile testing.  I'll have them bring cake, let's talk. "

I"m sure that's how it goes in his head. Reality is that there are better ways. 

Mushmouth wouldn't recognize diplomacy if it gave him a big wet kiss.

Indeed...Trump did likely shock the Hell outta Kim with his rhetoric...and it worked.

Next thing ya know...missile tests stop and Trump is waltzing into North Korea.

Results...

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Mushmouth wouldn't recognize diplomacy if it gave him a big wet kiss.

Indeed...Trump did likely shock the Hell outta Kim with his rhetoric...and it worked.

Next thing ya know...missile tests stop and Trump is waltzing into North Korea.

Results...

Yeah. Like I said it works. He's not the first to use it and it has been used as a deliberate tactic in the past with success.

And say what you like, but under Biden north Korea and Russia signed a defense pact, missile testing has gone on again, two major wars have broken out in the world, pirating and anti shipping activities have raised havoc in the supply chain, and china keeps sharpening its knife while it glare's menacingly at Taiwan

And that's in 4 years.

So of the two styles I think we have to say the evidence strongly supports that trump's methodology, while unconventional, is the more effective of the two.

[myata]

Define blind, dead brain:

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And then we fell in love. OK? No, really! He wrote me beautiful letters. And they're great letters.