Gay Pride Season.

[impartialobserver]

We went to an event on Saturday and it just shows that folks are simply bored. They need a cause to fight for and even if they look stupid doing so.. they need something. It was a drag queen story event. My daughter was performing as part of a group before the event hence our going. The two songs are from a musical with zero lgbtq references. First.. the children in attendance had to have an adult with them. Second, there is quite the physical barrier.. about 6 feet, between the story teller and the kids. Third, they never touch not even close. Fourth, there is no mention of the sex act.. not even one syllable. Fifth, the drag queen was not exposing themselves more than arms and ankles.. oh so explicit (smh). The stories read were standard issue stuff.. no lgbtq characters or mentions of sex. Sixth... best of all, it happens on two days per year as part of a week celebrating inclusivity. Grand total of 3 hours out of 8760 in a year. 

So what happens.. Folks in the parking lot with posters and bullhorns going on about sexualizing the kids. And then the particularly contrived ones who attempt to walk into the building with their phones/cameras. They clearly know how to read a sign that says, "Only adults with a child may enter". And yet they get all indignant about not being allowed and wah, wah, wah... The library has clearly lineated legal backing... they are allowed to have events where not all of the general public can enter at will. One guy does this every year.. I would bet money that he gets paid to do this. After 3 years.. he knows the protocol and every year plays stupid and gets outraged. Having been to two of these.. they are so incredibly unremarkable. The kids mostly fall asleep or get bored and start making noise. Such indoctrination for sure.. It is so intense that no one cares. 

[Moonlight Graham]

Children need to be more inclusive to drag queens.  It's a major problem in our society.  Why don't they accept the kink?  Shape up, children.

[Michael Hardner]

37 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Children need to be more inclusive to drag queens.  It's a major problem in our society.  Why don't they accept the kink?  Shape up, children.

The parents are ok with it... parental rights remember ?  

We happened upon such an event... kids were mildly interested, probably by the colours brandished by the readers... got bored after 10 minutes and we continued on through the park.

Big meh.

They wouldn't have remembered it a week after it happened.

People are being manipulated into thinking that there's something to be outraged about ... people with a lot of excess outrage to spend somewhere.  

[Black Dog]

On 6/13/2024 at 7:45 PM, Perspektiv said:

Whats abnormal about it? 

You do understand that an asexual can have a healthy sex life, right?

Like what is your end game here? Utter failure? Poiting out your lack of knowledge other than the Google definition you read to sound smart, about asexuality? o_O.

So asexual is just a label you like to use to make you feel different or what?

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How am I a deviant? Am married and have a healthy sex life. Again. Enlighten us. How am I a deviant?

 

Asexuality isn't normal. People are ment to desire and enjoy sex.

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So you're telling me there hasn't been an increase in hate crimes? I don't understand it, either, but was pointing it out. You're reaching so hard trying to act like I okay the acts of violence without proof, you come across as someone without an argument to bring to the table.

Again, you think it's an understandable reaction. You may not approve, but you "get it".

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

people with a lot of excess outrage to spend somewhere.

Its either gay pride, or Trudeau. Pick your poison that is to blame for everything. 

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Its either gay pride, or Trudeau. Pick your poison that is to blame for everything. 

I have things to add from the other side.... they used to blame the wealthy.  Corporations and so on.  In fact that urge is so strong, even the populist propaganda uses it, with hand picked Billionaires personally pinned to the causes of our problems.  Gates, Zuckerberg, Soros... 

[Guest]

Just now, Black Dog said:

So asexual is just a label you like to use to make you feel different or what?

No, more like asexuals have the capacity to adapt to their partners, should they choose to do so.

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Asexuality isn't normal.

To you. 

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

People are ment to desire and enjoy sex.

You clearly know nothing about asexuality, other than your Google knowledge o_O

6 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You may not approve, but you "get it".

You're doing gymnastics, to try to put words in my mouth. Kudos on the effort.

 

[Black Dog]

2 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

No, more like asexuals have the capacity to adapt to their partners, should they choose to do so.

To you. 

You clearly know nothing about asexuality, other than your Google knowledge o_O=\

Where else am i supposed to learn about asexuals? They're a tiny group and the only one I've ever encountered (you) won't actually give any information about it or correct any of my assumptions. 

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You're doing gymnastics, to try to put words in my mouth. Kudos on the effort.

 

Unlike you with your wife, I don't put anything where I don't want it to be.

[impartialobserver]

14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

People are being manipulated into thinking that there's something to be outraged about ... people with a lot of excess outrage to spend somewhere.  

precisely

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Where else am i supposed to learn about asexuals?

Google?

50 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

or correct any of my assumptions. 

Not my job to correct you. Its my job to poke fun of you.

55 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I don't put anything where I don't want it to be.

Nor can you. 🤪

[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

Google?

Google tells me asexuals are deviants who don't want sex. 

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Not my job to correct you. Its my job to poke fun of you.

Glad you're having fun poking someone because it sure ain't your wife.

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Nor can you. 🤪

Doesn't even make sense, 0/10 comeback.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

precisely

Sure - here's some perfectly innocent 'story time' as an example. 

There's a crap tonne of videos and cases of very inappropriate behavior.  But YOU think that there's absolutely NO grounds for people to have NAY concerns.  Just people with too much time. 

I guess you'd say there's NO reason to be concerned about the kkk if you went to a meeting and at that particular meeting they didn't mention black people. 

 

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Glad 

You're a miserable person, so we both know you're not glad about anything.

32 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

0/10 comeback

Rating comebacks is about as pathetic as your life. 😙

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Sure - here's some perfectly innocent 'story time' as an example. 

Well that's an example of something anyone could be outraged over.  I'm even getting a little hot under the collar m'self.

Luckily for every idi0t in the world there are ten people with phones to record it...

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I have things to add from the other side.... they used to blame the wealthy.  Corporations and so on.  In fact that urge is so strong, even the populist propaganda uses it, with hand picked Billionaires personally pinned to the causes of our problems.  Gates, Zuckerberg, Soros... 

You forgot Trudeau. He's eager to start the class war again. He's been blaming the 'rich' since before he got elected, then adding more taxes on... the upper middle class. Which just shows what an incredible lying phony he is.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well that's an example of something anyone could be outraged over.  I'm even getting a little hot under the collar m'self.

Luckily for every idi0t in the world there are ten people with phones to record it...

Sure.  And i think we can all agree that if you take ANY public activity sooner or later you'll catch something that is inappropriate. Even comedians step in it sometimes and nobody would suggest humour is terrible. 

But the problem is that this stuff comes up pretty regular regarding 'drag story time',  where really inappropriate behavior is exposed to children.  And there's really no control over it, there's no one out there policing this content to make sure its' not over the top and i don't know how their could be. 

And that's why we're seeing people turn against it.  

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

precisely

Drag Queen story hour is just such an absurd reach for the freaks of the Left to use. It's not inclusive and not designed to open kids eyes and be more inclusive. The parents do it because they want to give the middle finger to the Right, and preen about how virtuous and progressive they are. They don't give a damn about their kids being exposed to whatever. As someone or other pointed out, there's a minuscule amount of drag queens out there. Why is it necessary for children to think that's normal? There's tons of disabled people but nobody is having a 'disabled person story hour' to get kids to feel accepting of disabled people. 

The liberals like to pretend all this outrage over drag queens being with children is an invention of the evil right, but it's merely them reacting in an utterly predictable way to deliberate provocation by the Left. Provoking the right is the ONLY reason people do this. And then they go "Hmph, why are you being so outraged? Drag queens are utterly normal! Bigot! Learn to be more open-minded like us!"

Except, of course, they're not the least bit open-minded. They're harshly judgemental and despise anyone who doesn't ahv the same ideological views as them.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

The parents are ok with it... parental rights remember ?  

We happened upon such an event... kids were mildly interested, probably by the colours brandished by the readers... got bored after 10 minutes and we continued on through the park.

Big meh.

They wouldn't have remembered it a week after it happened.

People are being manipulated into thinking that there's something to be outraged about ... people with a lot of excess outrage to spend somewhere.  

So then why are these men wanting to read for the kids in drag?  What's the point?

Do you believe in parents rights?

We could just as well say that you're trying to manipulate people into thinking there's nothing to be outraged about.

Based on what people wear at Pride parades, I think it's also not age- appropriate to bring kids there.  You said when you went there were naked gay men dancing.

Parents have a right to expose their kids to certain things and I have a right to have an opinion on it.

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

You forgot Trudeau. He's eager to start the class war again. He's been blaming the 'rich' since before he got elected, then adding more taxes on... the upper middle class. Which just shows what an incredible lying phony he is.

Acknowledged.  He would like to do that but I'll bet he doesn't say it behind closed doors.

And don't imagine that other politicians even Olivia Chow are any less phony in this regard.

I'll bet Trudeau starts those conversations with a sh** eating grin and tells them to ignore his public statements.

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1. So then why are these men wanting to read for the kids in drag? 
2. What's the point?
3. Do you believe in parents rights?
4. We could just as well say that you're trying to manipulate people into thinking there's nothing to be outraged about.
5. Based on what people wear at Pride parades, I think it's also not age- appropriate to bring kids there.  You said when you went there were naked gay men dancing.
6. Parents have a right to expose their kids to certain things and I have a right to have an opinion on it.

1. To get paid.
2.To show everybody what progressive parents they are, if they're straight liberals.  If they're drag or gay people probably just to have a party with their friends... I don't get it myself.
3. Absolutely.  But at the extremes there are instances where the state trumps the parents.  These things are obvious and were not as controversial until the recent revolt of the populists.
4. I'm not posting inflammatory videos about how terrible everything is.  I don't post things saying they're FORCING people to be inclusive, or that GROOMERS are trying to f*** kids.  If people showed up and said "What's the point of this in schools exactly ?" I think you would have a better starting point for a point-to-point respectful discussion.
5. Many parents are ok with nudity.  I'm one of them.  If people have strap on dildos and such then I would hide that from my kid... that's my line on that.
6. And parents whose politics you absolutely detest will deploy their politics against yours.

I talked about this with the wife last night.  Nick Wright of First Things First (Sports Show) covered the Caitlin Clark story by decrying the toxic politics that every story is draped in.  I think that's where I stand too. 

Some basketball lady didn't make the Olympic Team... big whoop.  The so-called political angle is that The View decried her for being white, straight, and popular (surely her fault) or more accurately decried the media (remember ... all media is "left wing") for popularizing her on that basis... ya ya ya ya yadda yo...

I think that this style of politics needs to be separated from actual politics.   This happened, slowly, at the dawn of the 20th century as muckracking politics became less believable and interesting.

[impartialobserver]

16 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

The parents do it because they want to give the middle finger to the Right, a

A bit obsessed are we? You think the only reason is to give the middle finger to someone. Then answer this.. why were they well attended before there was any of the controversy? At least they were in my neck of the woods. The conservatives protesters only started last year.. if you are keeping tabs, it began in 2012. 

[I am Groot]

4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

A bit obsessed are we? You think the only reason is to give the middle finger to someone. Then answer this.. why were they well attended before there was any of the controversy? At least they were in my neck of the woods. The conservatives protesters only started last year.. if you are keeping tabs, it began in 2012. 

Probably because people other than the far left weren't even aware this was a thing until it began appearing in the media. Society didn't make much fuss over people molesting kids either until they actually understood this was a thing. As far back as the 1980s nobody paid the least attention to kids saying their coach, scoutmaster, teacher, doctor or priest was doing things to them. SNL used to have a regular child molester character (buck henry) and the audience would laugh as he tried to get other cast members who were pretending to be kids to reach into his pocket or sit on his lap.

Now suppose you tell me why all these parents want guys in wildly oversexualized costumes of women read to their kids. You know drag queens have been very closely associated with street prostitution for decades, right?

Edited June 17, 2024 by I am Groot

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Now suppose you tell me what the purpose is of having guys in wildly oversexualized costumes of women read to kids. You know drag queens have been very closely associated with street prostitution for decades, right?

Honestly do not know the purpose. But your insinuation that they are molesting/assualting the kids or reading books to them that are overtly sexual is not based in fact. I have seen 5 or 6 times and nothing even close to that happens. My kids find it boring. So in short, you cant answer why they were attended by mostly liberals starting in 2012 when there was no one to provoke.. typical internet forum poster. 

Edited June 17, 2024 by impartialobserver

[I am Groot]

Just now, impartialobserver said:

Honestly do not know the purpose. But your insinuation that they are molesting/assualting the kids or reading books to them that are overtly sexual is not based in fact. I have seen 5 or 6 times and nothing even close to that happens. My kids find it boring. 

You don't know but you've brought your kids to it five or six times? 

What do you feel is more important for kids normalizing drag queens or normalizing disabled people? Why aren't there any disabled people's story hours?

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

  My kids find it boring. 

Ditto.  It's for the parents.  This will be likely a non issue in the near future.  Gay parents will do it maybe... but its relevancy is tied to its status as a political flashpoint IMO.

Just now, I am Groot said:

You don't know but you've brought your kids to it five or six times? 

In the city, these things are offered as a side event to large gatherings that need content.  I've never seen anyone object...