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1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

I am 100% apolitical. I am of the opinion that all parties have some valid policies and some bad. It is a shame there is no party that selects the best from them all.

To me, we have become very American in our politics. It seems there are no independent thinkers anymore, you are either liberal or conservative, left or right. No best for the country as a whole  party. You have to be left or right. And the rhetoric and vitriol coming from, on this forum, conservatives, is deafening.

I can fully understand not liking the present government, it happens all the time be it con or lib once they have been in power for 3 terms. The existing government gets the boot after 3 terms and nearly wiped out. Happened to the conservatives and will happen to the liberals too. That is why I have said I wished were were like the Americans, 2 turns and you are out. I will go further, and say 3 or maybe 4 terms elected and you are out. I do not believe politics should be a career.

What I truly enjoy is getting under the skin or hard nose political weenies on either side. I respect your choice of conservative. It is a personal choice. I do hope that you have bought all  PP's conservative platforms and policies but because I have not does not make me an enemy.

I am a conservative member of the People's Party of Canada. But i know that the PP will never be able to form a government. The left wing liberal, and NDP communist party, and the MSM will make sure of that never happening. The PP and Maxine Bernier is a real and true conservative party. 

But i know that in order to get rid of the Lee brothers, ugly(Trudeau)and homely looking(Singh)i must vote for the conservative party of Canada. One can only hope that the conservative party will do all of the things that they say they are going to do. If they cut big government, cut taxes,and restore freedom and freedom of speech in Canada, they should be able to stay in power for decades. But that will be up to them. It will be their call. 😇

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2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I am 100% apolitical. I am of the opinion that all parties have some valid policies and some bad. It is a shame there is no party that selects the best from them all.

To me, we have become very American in our politics. It seems there are no independent thinkers anymore, you are either liberal or conservative, left or right. No best for the country as a whole  party. You have to be left or right. And the rhetoric and vitriol coming from, on this forum, conservatives, is deafening.

I can fully understand not liking the present government, it happens all the time be it con or lib once they have been in power for 3 terms. The existing government gets the boot after 3 terms and nearly wiped out. Happened to the conservatives and will happen to the liberals too. That is why I have said I wished were were like the Americans, 2 turns and you are out. I will go further, and say 3 or maybe 4 terms elected and you are out. I do not believe politics should be a career.

What I truly enjoy is getting under the skin or hard nose political weenies on either side. I respect your choice of conservative. It is a personal choice. I do hope that you have bought all  PP's conservative platforms and policies but because I have not does not make me an enemy.

Would you not vote against a government when the Liberal party that represents a minority of the public starts implementing legislation that destroys the economy, our security and demographic balance with unpopular and poorly conceived dictates.

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1 minute ago, taxme said:

I am a conservative member of the People's Party of Canada. But i know that the PP will never be able to form a government. The left wing liberal, and NDP communist party, and the MSM will make sure of that never happening. The PP and Maxine Bernier is a real and true conservative party. 

But i know that in order to get rid of the Lee brothers, ugly(Trudeau)and homely looking(Singh)i must vote for the conservative party of Canada. One can only hope that the conservative party will do all of the things that they say they are going to do. If they cut big government, cut taxes,and restore freedom and freedom of speech in Canada, they should be able to stay in power for decades. But that will be up to them. It will be their call. 😇

I actually think PP will be voted in and be Prime Minister.

Trudeau's actions have alienated him even from his own party. It is too late for him to step down down and get a new leader and campaign so the liberals will have to accept the defeat and then pick a new leader.

I think that Jagmeet has killed his party even in traditional NDP land like BC.

Oh and do I ever love the Lee Brothers comment. Can I use it?? LOL

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1 minute ago, Legato said:

Would you not vote against a government when the Liberal party that represents a minority of the public starts implementing legislation that destroys the economy, our security and demographic balance with unpopular and poorly conceived dictates.

Not sure.

Lots of things can change in 18 months. I do not ride on any party bandwagon.

Like I said, I am apolitical.

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2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I actually think PP will be voted in and be Prime Minister.

Trudeau's actions have alienated him even from his own party. It is too late for him to step down down and get a new leader and campaign so the liberals will have to accept the defeat and then pick a new leader.

I think that Jagmeet has killed his party even in traditional NDP land like BC.

Oh and do I ever love the Lee Brothers comment. Can I use it?? LOL

 

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Not sure.

Lots of things can change in 18 months. I do not ride on any party bandwagon.

Like I said, I am apolitical.

Do you see things changing for the better?

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6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I actually think PP will be voted in and be Prime Minister.

Trudeau's actions have alienated him even from his own party. It is too late for him to step down down and get a new leader and campaign so the liberals will have to accept the defeat and then pick a new leader.

I think that Jagmeet has killed his party even in traditional NDP land like BC.

Oh and do I ever love the Lee Brothers comment. Can I use it?? LOL

Sure, go ahead, no charge. LOL.

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6 hours ago, taxme said:

I have to wonder if someone said hello to the flyer, would he be stuck for an answer? Just wondering. LOL.

LOL - well he might have to go to his AI system to come up with an intelligent response...

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5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Self denying what?? You are the one prolonging your assface selfie.

No, i'm the one prolonging pointing out the fact you posted ass porn 10 times in a row because you couldn't think of an adult argument :)

And i'm fine with that :)

the guy who prolonged the ass porn was the guy who kept posting it 10 times - that'd be you :)  

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Not sure.

Lots of things can change in 18 months. I do not ride on any party bandwagon.

Like I said, I am apolitical.

And yet defend the libs at every chance and post ass pictures.  You're apolitical in the same way trudeau is black.

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12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, i'm the one prolonging pointing out the fact you posted ass porn 10 times in a row because you couldn't think of an adult argument :)

And i'm fine with that :)

the guy who prolonged the ass porn was the guy who kept posting it 10 times - that'd be you :)  

And yet defend the libs at every chance and post ass pictures.  You're apolitical in the same way trudeau is black.

You are, by far , the biggest PP ass sucker on this forum.

I defend no one, I just rub your face in everything you say...even when it is sticking out of PP's ass.

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1 minute ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Childish behavior and post.  You're bigger than that aren't you?   

Waaa, waaa waaa.  :)

Yes, I am much bigger an am very capable of understanding what I say and I stand by it when referencing cdnfux.

I gather you are indicating cdnfux posts are not childish?? LOL

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1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

Lobbyists are selling their products to the Conservatives even before they are elected to form government

NDP MPs call for investigation into lobbying firm with ties to top Conservative adviser 

NDP MPs call for investigation into lobbying firm with ties to top Conservative adviser  | CBC News

Are you talking about political lobbying firms or what kind of lobbying?  Lobbying for what? All major political parties use political lobbying firms to communicate their messages. 

Also, politicians communicate with firms of all kinds to gain support.  That is how politics and campaigning works.  Nothing untoward about that unless you can prove some kind of corruption. 

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10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Are you talking about political lobbying firms or what kind of lobbying?  Lobbying for what? All major political parties use political lobbying firms to communicate their messages. 

Also, politicians communicate with firms of all kinds to gain support.  That is how politics and campaigning works.  Nothing untoward about that unless you can prove some kind of corruption. 

Lobbying firms are intermediaries to sell products or to obtain corporate benefits from governments, and it is disturbing that the bosses of these firms are advising anyone who aspires to be prime minister.

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3 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Lobbying firms are intermediaries to sell products or to obtain corporate benefits from governments, and it is disturbing that the bosses of these firms are advising anyone who aspires to be prime minister.

I don't think you understand politics.  Politicians talk to all kinds of people to gain political support.  There is nothing wrong with that.  The NDP meets with union leaders as well.  That is just how politics works.  It doesn't mean these lobbyists you refer have any particular influence more than anyone else with politicians.  

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32 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Are you talking about political lobbying firms or what kind of lobbying?  Lobbying for what? All major political parties use political lobbying firms to communicate their messages. 

Also, politicians communicate with firms of all kinds to gain support.  That is how politics and campaigning works.  Nothing untoward about that unless you can prove some kind of corruption. 

We need something more preventative. The term guardrails come to mind - something tangibly physical in nature.

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26 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I don't think you understand politics.  Politicians talk to all kinds of people to gain political support.  There is nothing wrong with that.  The NDP meets with union leaders as well.  That is just how politics works.  It doesn't mean these lobbyists you refer have any particular influence more than anyone else with politicians.  

The bosses of lobbying firms cannot take part in Poilievre's decisions because there is a conflict of interest. He is not prime minister but hopefully he will not because he is not a good man.

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2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Are you talking about political lobbying firms or what kind of lobbying?  Lobbying for what? All major political parties use political lobbying firms to communicate their messages. 

Also, politicians communicate with firms of all kinds to gain support.  That is how politics and campaigning works.  Nothing untoward about that unless you can prove some kind of corruption. 

You had best read the link.

She and her lobbying firms are lobbying conservative caucus and attending conservative caucus  meetings while also lobbying for Loblaws and who know what else.

1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Are you afraid of Pierre Poilievre . . . . what is the basis of your fear?

Who is afraid of the big bad wolf? LOL

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27 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

She and her lobbying firms are lobbying conservative caucus and attending conservative caucus  meetings while also lobbying for Loblaws and who know what else.

Political parties hire political lobbying firms to work on their behalf.  That is normal.  So attending a caucus meeting for the people they are working for would be normal.  Every major party would do that.  That would not include Loblaws.  Loblaws is a grocery chain.  They would not be in caucus meetings.  Special interest groups do not go to caucus meetings.

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7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You are, by far , the biggest PP ass sucker on this forum.

I defend no one, I just rub your face in everything you say...even when it is sticking out of PP's ass.

Yawn.  Still trying to justify your ass porn i see.

And you defend trudeau constantly.

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3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Political parties hire political lobbying firms to work on their behalf.  That is normal.  So attending a caucus meeting for the people they are working for would be normal.  Every major party would do that.  That would not include Loblaws.  Loblaws is a grocery chain.  They would not be in caucus meetings.  Special interest groups do not go to caucus meetings.

Not allowed to attend caucus meetings.

Clearly you did  not read the link or did not understand it.

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Just now, CdnFox said:

Yawn.  Still trying to justify your ass porn i see.

And you defend trudeau constantly.

No ass porn at all, just one photo of you poking your face out of PP's ass. A classic case of idol worship to the extreme LOL

I have never ever defended trudeau....show me if you can LOL

I just love to contradict oyu :)

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6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Waaa, waaa waaa.  :)

Yes, I am much bigger an am very capable of understanding what I say and I stand by it when referencing cdnfux.

I gather you are indicating cdnfux posts are not childish?? LOL

The lack of ass porn in my posts DOES suggest a slightly more mature stance :) 

Just now, ExFlyer said:

No ass porn at all, just one photo of you poking your face out of PP's ass. A classic case of idol worship to the extreme LOL

I have never ever defended trudeau....show me if you can LOL

I just love to contradict oyu :)

Ass porn kiddo.  The real question is why do you have ass porn in the first place?

You constantly defend trudeau and his liberals. 

You don't actually contradict me.  You just say stupid things and then freak out when i point out they're stupid :)  

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