So-called science has repeatedly erred in making false claims.

[SkyHigh]

8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

By faith I mean faith in the God of the Bible, the true God.  

 

There you give examples of faith in the wrong thing.  Of course faith in false gods will lead nowhere.

I am talking about faith in the Bible, in English, the King James Bible of 1611.  If one has a basic understanding, they will realize that all these other gods you mention are false gods.  

Of course we are not talking about faith in just anything.  It has to be in the true God and his written revelation, the Bible.

Not correct.  If you don't understand the Bible at all, of course you won't see what this is all about.

You talk about critical thinking and logical reasoning, but you ignore the central truth that the universe was created by God and he revealed himself in the Bible.  You seem to be trying to make an argument that all of that is irrelevant when it is the central issue.

What does that mean?  Is that some kind of Hebrew or Greek letter?  If so, I don't see what your point is.  I am not a Greek or Hebrew scholar and it has no relevance here.

KJV is king James version and π is Pi

If you seriously don't know that you  literally lack the knowledge (and intelligence) to participate in any conversation about science, no just in any conversation period.

Just now, blackbird said:

You must mean 1 Kings 7:23-26

There is 1st Kings and 2nd Kings, two separate books.

What is your point?

I looked up those verses and don't see what your point is.  You quoted a few verses but never explained at all why or what you are referring to.

Of course you don't get it you don't know what π is 

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, SkyHigh said:

KJV is king James version and π is Pi

If you seriously don't know that you  literally lack the knowledge (and intelligence) to participate in any conversation about science, no just in any conversation period.

OK, let's be clear.  You are referring to a letter called Pi.  That is not in the KJV  Bible.  So what is your point?  Why mention it?

[blackbird]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

If you seriously don't know that you  literally lack the knowledge (and intelligence) to participate in any conversation about science, no just in any conversation period.

That is nonsense.  Anybody can study the KJV Bible and don't need to know any letters of the Hebrew or Greek alphabet.  Those letters have nothing to do with the KJV which is in English.  The KJV is an absolutely accurate and trustworthy Bible and no knowledge of Greek is required to study and learn from it.

The KJV translators would have had to have a lot of understanding of the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts when they made the English translation we call the KJV, but the reader doesn't need to know Greek or Hebrew.  We are reading it in English.

Edited September 29, 2024 by blackbird

[SkyHigh]

11 minutes ago, blackbird said:

OK, let's be clear.  You are referring to a letter called Pi.  That is not in the KJV  Bible.  So what is your point?  Why mention it?

Dude you're hopeless

the verses talk about a circle where π is 3 that is impossible.

Wait do you know how to calculate circumference, or diameter or radius?

9 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That is nonsense.  Anybody can study the KJV Bible and don't need to know any letters of the Hebrew or Greek alphabet.  Those letters have nothing to do with the KJV which is in English.  The KJV is an absolutely accurate and trustworthy Bible and no knowledge of Greek is required to study and learn from it.

π is the universal symbol for a number too long to write out, it's on literally every calculator.  Basic math It's not some Hebrew word. You really are ignorant 

Edited September 29, 2024 by SkyHigh

[blackbird]

8 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

Dude you're hopeless

the verses talk about a circle where π is 3 that is impossible.

Wait do you know how to calculate circumference?

Can you quote the actual verse you are talking about?  I just looked at 2 Chronicles 4:2-5 and don't see anything specifically about a circle.  What version of the Bible are you looking at?

Can you spell out the sentence you have a problem with?

Edited September 29, 2024 by blackbird

[blackbird]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Wait do you know how to calculate circumference?

Yes, I know how to calculate circumference.  But I don't see anything in those verses about calculating circumference.  Not sure what you are referring to.

[SkyHigh]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Can you quote the actual verse you are talking about?  I just looked at 2 Chronicles 4:2-5 and don't see anything specifically about a circle.  What version of the Bible are you looking at?

Can you spell out the sentence you have a problem with?

Do the math on the thing that's being built in the verses and π =3  don't know how better to point it out particularly to someone that doesn't seem to understand grade 6 math

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, SkyHigh said:

Do the math on the thing that's being built in the verses and π =3  don't know how better to point it out particularly to someone that doesn't seem to understand grade 6 math

I read the verses and don't see what your point is.  You seem to be trying to invent something that is not there.

And you can't explain what exactly the problem is.   

Yes I recall that circumference is 2 times Pi times the radius.  2PiR   However it is not necessary for anyone to know that to read the Bible.  In fact, nobody needs to know that formula to live their life.

[SkyHigh]

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I read the verses and don't see what your point is.  You seem to be trying to invent something that is not there.

And you can't explain what exactly the problem is.   

Yes I recall that circumference is 2 times Pi times the radius.  2PiR   However it is not necessary for anyone to know that to read the Bible.  In fact, nobody needs to know that formula to live their life.

The bible gets π(Pi) wrong, that's my point. Well one of many points,l that are only relevant to your brand of christianity and not actually necessary to believe in the teachings of Jesus.

A little story for you. I'm presently at a former foster moms (I love her immensely and still call her mom to this day) home in some Podunk town south of Ottawa (why I can waste so much time lately on this silly forum), because she's having some pretty serious health issues and luckily I have the means to put my life on hold and give her the help she needs and deserves. She's a devout Baptist and is well aware of my lack of belief but she always says that Jesus works through me more than most of the people at her church.

You are one of those people that come judgement day, Christ will say you never knew him.

[French Patriot]

16 hours ago, blackbird said:

False.  Nothing has disproved what the Bible says.

The fact that Jesus Christ was resurrected from the dead and seen by many eye witnesses proves he is who he said he is, God the Son, that is, God.  God is a trinity made up of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.  Since Jesus recognized the Scripture as being from God, then that should be final.

Whatever happened to the prophesy that Jesus was to be sired by a descendent of King David?

Just another glitch.

[French Patriot]

11 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

judgement day,

Nothing quite like being judged by an evil genocidal God. 

Don't worry though. His judgements are always just. 

Just ask the babies whose skulls Yahweh ordered smashed against stones.

[blackbird]

13 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

The bible gets π(Pi) wrong, that's my point.

No, it doesn't get anything wrong. 

I would suggest you stick to the subject instead of trying to make false accusations.

[User]

17 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Is π 3.14..... ?

This is such a loaded question. The Bible doesn't say PI isn't 3.14... nor does it prescribe what PI is. The Bible was not providing some mathematical proof with drawings and calculations at all. 

You are talking about where a description is given of how a cylindrical container was built. You are making some presumptions here to skew what is being done here. It is not a math problem, it is a laymen description of something being built. No where are they saying it was precisely X diameter and precisely Y circumference and that this thus proves PI = 3. 

Its like me telling some friends about a project I had in my garage. Telling them I built wooden circle and it was 30 feet around and 10 foot in diameter... you come along and say that I am trying to tell people PI = 3... or maybe in lay talk people give approximate figures when speaking, I didn't explain that it was really 30 feet 10 5/16th inches around and 9 feet 11 15/16th inches around measured with exact precision with my micrometer! (just throwing out numbers here to demonstrate the absurdity of this)

This whole line of argument is just done by someone so pathetically desperate to come up with something to criticize The Bible over. 

 

Edited September 29, 2024 by User

[User]

4 hours ago, French Patriot said:

Whatever happened to the prophesy that Jesus was to be sired by a descendent of King David?

Just another glitch.

You tell us. What exactly is your argument here?

[herbie]

Once when we were young and high enough we watched an entire Billy Graham broadcast on What the Bible Said About the H Bomb.

It didn't say anything, nor did he. Just blathered on with gibberish quotes like Blackbird does. So later a group of them from acting class dressed in drag and went to his Crusade at Empire Stadium. Wish they had cell phones in the 1970s to record all the faces.

[French Patriot]

19 hours ago, User said:

You tell us. What exactly is your argument here?

Your bible lies about Jesus and who was supposed  to sire him, and Christians do not care.

 

[User]

49 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

Your bible lies about Jesus and who was supposed  to sire him, and Christians do not care.

Where is this lie?

Again, this is your argument. Make it. 

[TreeBeard]

On 9/29/2024 at 9:25 AM, blackbird said:

No, it doesn't get anything wrong. 

Do you believe that bats are birds?

[Mathieub]

Dark matter exist in my book. A pure creation of God.

It's where come the mal.

[User]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Do you believe that bats are birds?

Do you believe this question is relevant here and if so, can you explain what that is?

[TreeBeard]

Just now, User said:

Do you believe this question is relevant here and if so, can you explain what that is?

The bible gets nothing wrong, according to @blackbird   

[User]

4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

The bible gets nothing wrong, according to @blackbird   

You have yet to explain how this has anything to do with that or what your point is. 

[French Patriot]

22 hours ago, User said:

Where is this lie?

Again, this is your argument. Make it. 

??? Have you read the Bible?

Who is prophesized to sire Jesus if not a member of King David's line?

[User]

42 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

??? Have you read the Bible?

Who is prophesized to sire Jesus if not a member of King David's line?

I have clearly read it more than you have. 

Again, this is your stupid argument. You make it. 

[French Patriot]

On 10/1/2024 at 10:19 AM, User said:

I have clearly read it more than you have. 

Again, this is your stupid argument. You make it. 

And you did not counter it. Stupid.