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Docs reveal new details of Trump lawyer’s fringe push to overturn 2020 election

its all there in black and white from our favourite canary!

but fascists don't care...

Fascism

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader... Fascism rejects assertions that violence is inherently negative or pointless, instead viewing ... political violence... as means to national rejuvenation. Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, ethnic minorities or immigrants."

'Frequently cited as a standard definition by notable scholars,[31] such as Roger Griffin,[32] Randall Schweller,[33] Bo Rothstein,[34] Federico Finchelstein,[35] and Stephen D. Shenfield,[36] is that of historian Stanley G. Payne.[37] His definition of fascism focuses on three concepts:

  1. "Fascist negations" – anti-liberalism, anti-communism, and anti-conservatism.
  2. "Fascist goals" – the creation of a nationalist dictatorship to regulate economic structure and to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture, and the expansion of the nation into an empire.
  3. "Fascist style" – a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence, and promotion of masculinity, youth, and charismatic authoritarian leadership.'

 

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14 hours ago, godzilla said:

Docs reveal new details of Trump lawyer’s fringe push to overturn 2020 election

its all there in black and white from our favourite canary!

but fascists don't care...

Fascism

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader... Fascism rejects assertions that violence is inherently negative or pointless, instead viewing ... political violence... as means to national rejuvenation. Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, ethnic minorities or immigrants."

'Frequently cited as a standard definition by notable scholars,[31] such as Roger Griffin,[32] Randall Schweller,[33] Bo Rothstein,[34] Federico Finchelstein,[35] and Stephen D. Shenfield,[36] is that of historian Stanley G. Payne.[37] His definition of fascism focuses on three concepts:

  1. "Fascist negations" – anti-liberalism, anti-communism, and anti-conservatism.
  2. "Fascist goals" – the creation of a nationalist dictatorship to regulate economic structure and to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture, and the expansion of the nation into an empire.
  3. "Fascist style" – a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence, and promotion of masculinity, youth, and charismatic authoritarian leadership.'

 

Tired old stories. Good sleeping material. Trumps a fascist, a Nazi, a homophobe a transphobe a white supremacist, a baker, a bottle washer and an Indian chief, right? 

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12 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

"AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!"

Do Libbies ever get tired of being such Tweenkies?

No because that's who they are. They actually want us to believe they are "protecting" democracy. They wouldnt know democracy if it was sodomizing them. 

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7 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

No because that's who they are. They actually want us to believe they are "protecting" democracy. They wouldnt know democracy if it was sodomizing them. 

Protecting Democracy...by restricting free speech...controlling the MSM narrative...demonizing anyone who disagrees with them...and jailing anyone who dare protest.

Hmmm...

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5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Protecting Democracy...by restricting free speech...controlling the MSM narrative...demonizing anyone who disagrees with them...and jailing anyone who dare protest.

Hmmm...

Right. They protect it by not exercising it. Maybe they think it's like a classic car? Lower mileage is better. If you don't use it so often it will last longer. 

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1 minute ago, Yakuda said:

Right. They protect it by not exercising it. Maybe they think it's like a classic car? Lower mileage is better. If you don't use it so often it will last longer. 

Meh...Lizzy and his friends don't give a sh1t about "democracy". They use the word like a club but are busy clawing at it like a cat to a scratching post.

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16 hours ago, godzilla said:

Fascism

"Fascism is a far-right,

Wrong. 

fascism

noun

fas·cism ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm  
 also  ˈfa-ˌsi-
 
1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
 
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutalityJ. W. Aldridge

fascism

noun

fas·cism ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm  
 also  ˈfa-ˌsi-
 
1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
 
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutalityJ. W. Aldridge
 
Sounds an awful lot like anti-Trumpers and their political witch hunt, don't you think? ;) 
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any yet... no comment about the Canary singing how Trump and his team attempted to throttle Democracy!

i guess you can argue the definition of fascism... while proclaiming its OK that Trump continually praises the violence of Jan 6th.

Trump being guilty is not arguable.

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7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

"AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!"

Do Libbies ever get tired of being such Tweenkies?

Don't YOU ever get tired of writing the same bankrupt pointless posts with juvenile name calling and ridiculous hyperbole?

Much easier for you than posting something with insightful intelligence, that's for sure.

Thanks for again confirming what a shallow parrot you are.

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1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Don't YOU ever get tired of writing the same bankrupt pointless posts with juvenile name calling and ridiculous hyperbole?

Much easier for you than posting something with insightful intelligence, that's for sure.

Thanks for again confirming what a shallow parrot you are.

1. Nope. Have you noticed my avatar?

2. I post insightful thoughts, for people with insight.

3. ;)

 

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13 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Protecting Democracy...by restricting free speech...controlling the MSM narrative...demonizing anyone who disagrees with them...and jailing anyone who dare protest.

Hmmm...

well, its just that some people are getting tired of "free speech" when its calling black people "n!iggers" and gay people "fags" and bemoaning them being on tv and working where white people work and not being able to just get drunk and hang them from trees every once in a while...

Woke

"Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights."

and not that the push for inclusion and rights for sub groups of people is always perfect. but thats a conversation and not something to just throw out there and claim that we need to go back to the "good ole days".

so, we hear that you're anit-woke! keep that up!

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6 minutes ago, godzilla said:

well, its just that some people are getting tired of "free speech" when its calling black people "n!iggers" and gay people "fags" and bemoaning them being on tv and working where white people work and not being able to just get drunk and hang them from trees every once in a while...

Woke

"Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights."

and not that the push for inclusion and rights for sub groups of people is always perfect. but thats a conversation and not something to just throw out there and claim that we need to go back to the "good ole days".

so, we hear that you're anit-woke! keep that up!

Lol...what trash. Do you believe this garbolla? Silly you.

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14 hours ago, Yakuda said:

Tired old stories. Good sleeping material. Trumps a fascist, a Nazi, a homophobe a transphobe a white supremacist, a baker, a bottle washer and an Indian chief, right? 

Tired? No...Truth..YES. A Felony is a Felony, and there's no statute of limitations in adding hew crimes to Trump's list and third investigated as well for disqualifying stuff in them which will overturn Trump even if he gets into OIffice.  

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Lol...what trash. Do you believe this garbolla? Silly you.

well, if you're anti-woke... then you are... anti-woke! right? for prejudice and discrimination?

for example... @Yakuda and @CdnFox both stated recently that black people have everything they need but that their culture prevents them from participating. you with them on this matter?

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getting back to the OP... of particular interest is the lie that 87k IRS agents would be hired... and armed.

there was a time that if you lied in the US in politics then you would be really in trouble. like say, if you said that you didn't have sex with a girl name Monica in the oval office or you invaded a country after claiming that they had weapons of mass destruction. it was really a problem for you.

then came... Trump and his MAGA followers. the POST-TRUTH ERA! Trump has dulled the senses of the masses. liars are no longer vilified. they are CELBRATED!

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2 hours ago, godzilla said:

well, if you're anti-woke... then you are... anti-woke! right? for prejudice and discrimination?

for example... @Yakuda and @CdnFox both stated recently that black people have everything they need but that their culture prevents them from participating. you with them on this matter?

well that's a lie.  Post where i said that.

Hey - if you want to pick a permanent fight with me keep lying about what i said. If you're such a pathetic scumbag that you can only make arguments by misquoting others then you deserve to be mocked and picked on.

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6 hours ago, godzilla said:

well, if you're anti-woke... then you are... anti-woke! right? for prejudice and discrimination?

for example... @Yakuda and @CdnFox both stated recently that black people have everything they need but that their culture prevents them from participating. you with them on this matter?

Lizzy...being "woke" makes a person think there is inequality everywhere. And in many cases there is. Some people achieve more than others. There are always very sound reasons for that. Yet the "woke" blame those who achieve more, for racism. Even black people who achieve more are blamed.

As far as gay people, they have every right anyone else has.

Inequality exists because not all people are equal. That's just a fact that has always been and will always be. To rail endlessly about it is both annoying and futile.

No matter how hard you try, you will never make all people equal. Thus a meritocracy has existed forever. Woke people try to deny merit. They actively oppose the notion. And when they do, the results are less than optimal. Thus...

It's all silliness.

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9 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Tired? No...Truth..YES. A Felony is a Felony, and there's no statute of limitations in adding hew crimes to Trump's list and third investigated as well for disqualifying stuff in them which will overturn Trump even if he gets into OIffice.  

Truth. Lol leftist wouldn't know truth if it was biting their a$$es

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12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lizzy...being "woke" makes a person think there is inequality everywhere. And in many cases there is. Some people achieve more than others. There are always very sound reasons for that. Yet the "woke" blame those who achieve more, for racism. Even black people who achieve more are blamed.

As far as gay people, they have every right anyone else has.

Inequality exists because not all people are equal. That's just a fact that has always been and will always be. To rail endlessly about it is both annoying and futile.

No matter how hard you try, you will never make all people equal. Thus a meritocracy has existed forever. Woke people try to deny merit. They actively oppose the notion. And when they do, the results are less than optimal. Thus...

It's all silliness.

great post! i agree!

so, where are these people who are "woke" who see inequality everywhere? i'm sure they exist but... they need moderation. NOT EXTREME RIGHT WING VIEWS. like black people not living the american dream because its their own damn fault.

the danger is what happens and is happening... that ANY program (and these programs are usually tiny in budget) suddenly become targets in order to "own the libs", destroy the "woke".

Minority-owned business agency discriminated against white people, federal judge says

over and over again its shown that under represented groups need intervention and thrive when this happens... soon the extreme right will be targeting child food programs... you know, because it discriminates against rich children.

social services are a religious target for the GOP and its business class backers... with tax relief for the most wealthy the outcome.

Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

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6 minutes ago, godzilla said:

great post! i agree!

so, where are these people who are "woke" who see inequality everywhere? i'm sure they exist but... they need moderation. NOT EXTREME RIGHT WING VIEWS.

Extreme right wing views have always been society's response to extreme left wing views - which is precisely what woke is. Darkness rises, and light to meet it as the saying goes.  Every political extreme tends to lead to an equal and opposite political extreme. and vice versa to a degree.

Thats  why intelligent people are very careful about ANY authoritarianism in gov't. It doesn't matter if you're a right wing socialist ilke the nazis or a left wing socialist - the moment you say the individual is less important than the society you get massive abuses.

The left in the 70's understood that, but somehow they're all dead and the current left its primarily hate filled leftist authoritarians who give rise to angry right wing authoritarians.

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Yakuda said:

Truth. Lol leftist wouldn't know truth if it was biting their a$$es

Well, tell you what there sparkie...you come to California and get your last groceries, as if Trump wins we plan on forming a New USA without the states who voted for him. Remember, we raise 80% of Americas food crops. 

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1 hour ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Well, tell you what there sparkie...you come to California and get your last groceries, as if Trump wins we plan on forming a New USA without the states who voted for him. Remember, we raise 80% of Americas food crops. 

No sweat.  The rest of teh states can always invade.  The republicans have all the guns ;)

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