Popular Post Rebound Posted February 16 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 16 Ouch! NY Judge Arthur Engoron has handed down a $350 million (plus interest) judgement against Donald Trump in the New York State civil fraud case. His two sons were also fined and all three are barred from doing any business in New York for three years. To appeal the verdict, Trump must post a $350 million plus interest bond, if he can find anyone who will take the risk of a bond. Otherwise, Trump must front the full $350 million himself before an appeal can be filed. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffypants Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Rebound said: Ouch! NY Judge Arthur Engoron has handed down a $350 million (plus interest) judgement against Donald Trump in the New York State civil fraud case. His two sons were also fined and all three are barred from doing any business in New York for three years. To appeal the verdict, Trump must post a $350 million plus interest bond, if he can find anyone who will take the risk of a bond. Otherwise, Trump must front the full $350 million himself before an appeal can be filed. I hope New York doesn't spend that money on illegals because the going to have to pay it back as soon as the appeal goes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: I hope New York doesn't spend that money on illegals because the going to have to pay it back as soon as the appeal goes through. That’s not how a bond works, but thanks for playing. Trump did a great job trying to get under this judge’s skin, but the judge stayed cool and didn’t take the bait. The judge wrote up a solid ruling, and it’s going to be nearly impossible to appeal. So all Trump will do with his appeal is waste his own money. Appeals need to be filed on very technical terms. They aren’t retrials; you have to find a mistake that was made or find a constitutional flaw in the law itself. Not as easy as you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: I hope New York doesn't spend that money on illegals because the going to have to pay it back as soon as the appeal goes through. IF Trump comes up with the $300+ MILLION required to file that appeal, the amount may be trimmed substantially, but it's NOT going to be completely erased. Besides, it WILL go into an ESCROW account and won't be RELEASED until after the appeal is finished. Now you know. You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 As usual, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. And no business in NY for 3 years? That's great news for New Yorkers. It's a dirty city (surrounded by a lovely state) but sweeping this filth out is a great start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswell Thomas Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Fluffypants said: I hope New York doesn't spend that money on illegals because the going to have to pay it back as soon as the appeal goes through. Somehow I doubt Trump will be in a position financially to even file a single further lawsuit before he, either of his sons or any other of his extended "family" die of old age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Oh even more losing.... so much losing... push for The Oaf even harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OftenWrong Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 (edited) CNN message to liberal chicken-littles. Don't count yer chickens on Trump yet Between March and August, prosecutors indicted former President Donald Trump four times for alleged crimes. In September, New York civil court Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that Trump had committed business fraud when seeking financing for his real estate deals, and on Friday Engoron imposed his penalties for the civil offenses: The judge ordered Trump to pay $355 million in damages; he also banned Trump from serving as an officer or a director of a business in New York for the next three years. While Friday’s ruling seems like a significant setback for Trump, it more likely will end up as a defeat for the legal system. Why because people know the liberals are lying, and using the partisan courts and bought-media to attack Trump and maintain their hold on power. As usual I predict popcorn flying off the shelves in Canada. Better start stockpiling now. I also predict, as have done here before, that by the time election night rolls around Don Trump will be facing $1T in fines, and 1000 years in prison. To be served consecutively. Edited February 18 by OftenWrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 4 hours ago, OftenWrong said: CNN message to liberal chicken-littles. Don't count yer chickens on Trump yet Between March and August, prosecutors indicted former President Donald Trump four times for alleged crimes. In September, New York civil court Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that Trump had committed business fraud when seeking financing for his real estate deals, and on Friday Engoron imposed his penalties for the civil offenses: The judge ordered Trump to pay $355 million in damages; he also banned Trump from serving as an officer or a director of a business in New York for the next three years. While Friday’s ruling seems like a significant setback for Trump, it more likely will end up as a defeat for the legal system. Why because people know the liberals are lying, and using the partisan courts and bought-media to attack Trump and maintain their hold on power. As usual I predict popcorn flying off the shelves in Canada. Better start stockpiling now. I also predict, as have done here before, that by the time election night rolls around Don Trump will be facing $1T in fines, and 1000 years in prison. To be served consecutively. You need to separate your OPINION article quote ("more likely") from your personal OPINION. Unfortunately for you right wingers, the JURY decides guilt, NOT the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 6 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Don't count yer chickens on Trump yet There are still tens of millions who'd prefer a total scumbag over an old person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, robosmith said: You need to separate your OPINION article quote ("more likely") from your personal OPINION. Unfortunately for you right wingers, the JURY decides guilt, NOT the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION. You'll have to take up your concerns with CNN, not me. They wrote that. I know, I know. Hard to accept, but these are the words of rational- minded liberals, now being drowned out by maniacal leftist extremists. As we see on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: You'll have to take up your concerns with CNN, not me. They wrote that. I know, I know. Hard to accept, but these are the words of rational- minded liberals, now being drowned out by maniacal leftist extremists. As we see on here... What I wrote is FACT. What you posted is OPINION. "the JURY decides guilt, NOT the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: What I wrote is FACT. What you posted is OPINION. "the JURY decides guilt, NOT the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION." Sadly for you, this is not about public opinion. "Editor’s Note: David Orentlicher is the Judge Jack and Lulu Lehman Professor at the William S. Boyd School of Law at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, where he specializes in constitutional law and health law. He also serves as a Democrat in the Nevada Assembly." The MAN is an EXPERT in the LAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: Sadly for you, this is not about public opinion. "Editor’s Note: David Orentlicher is the Judge Jack and Lulu Lehman Professor at the William S. Boyd School of Law at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, where he specializes in constitutional law and health law. He also serves as a Democrat in the Nevada Assembly." The MAN is an EXPERT in the LAW. And the reasons he cited for his OPINION that legal mistakes were made, are almost entirely based on PUBLIC OPINION impacts. AKA POLITICAL MISTAKES, NOT LEGAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, herbie said: There are still tens of millions who'd prefer a total scumbag over an old person. With Trump, they can have both! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 17 minutes ago, robosmith said: And the reasons he cited for his OPINION that legal mistakes were made, are almost entirely based on PUBLIC OPINION impacts. AKA POLITICAL MISTAKES, NOT LEGAL. Too bad, so sad. Bye bye. These legal cases are all flawed in their obvious political bias, because fools couldn't control themselves. They knew they don't even want the charges to be upheld, or they are all next. Here is why, according to AN EXPERT... "So far, public officials have done more damage to the law than to Trump, pushing too far in their efforts to punish the president." Many examples are given in the link. Dems have f'ed this up with their over-the-top political assault on the president, and in doing so demonstrated that the courts and other so-called professional organizations in USA are heavily politicized. Sucks to be you. 🤷♂️ And that's ok, I'm fine with it. because cultural marxism must die in a fire of its own making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 50 minutes ago, Hodad said: With Trump, they can have both! I thought little herbie was gonna cry for a sec there. Asking why the world's such an eff'd up place , why's it so fulla bad men. And they're big dumb orange god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 Now being the classless tacky loser he is, Trump is selling his followers ugly, gaudy golden Trump-brand hi-top sneakers for $400 per pair. I kid you not, you can’t make this shit up people The definition of un-presidential. Of course his followers being mindless zombies, bought all 1.000 pairs including one mor0n who paid $3,000 for an autographed pair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 10 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Of course his followers being mindless zombies, bought all 1.000 pairs including one mor0n who paid $3,000 for an autographed pair Smilesall around. Those are young guys too. Take note of it. That's what you never trumpers call being 'un-presidential'. Well too bad. This is the new alignment, being forged right there, right now. Gold shoes 'n all. They're saying- "We're here! We're Trump supporters! Get used to it!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 18 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Too bad, so sad. Bye bye. These legal cases are all flawed in their obvious political bias, because fools couldn't control themselves. They knew they don't even want the charges to be upheld, or they are all next. Here is why, according to AN EXPERT... "So far, public officials have done more damage to the law than to Trump, pushing too far in their efforts to punish the president." Many examples are given in the link. Dems have f'ed this up with their over-the-top political assault on the president, and in doing so demonstrated that the courts and other so-called professional organizations in USA are heavily politicized. Sucks to be you. 🤷♂️ And that's ok, I'm fine with it. because cultural marxism must die in a fire of its own making ^ONLY OPINION. Though granted he is a lawyer, BUT he's NOT a sociologist. He is providing HIS OPINION wrt "damage to the law" based on his OPINION of PUBLIC OPINION. AKA, NOT a LEGAL OPINION. WTH is the impact of "damage to the law"? Can YOU define that? Maybe it's the MAGA CULT taking the law into their own hands. AKA vigilante "justice." We've seen how many people go to jail over that. The COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION does not play a role in CONVICTION by the JURY. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 6 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Smilesall around. Those are young guys too. Take note of it. That's what you never trumpers call being 'un-presidential'. Well too bad. This is the new alignment, being forged right there, right now. Gold shoes 'n all. They're saying- "We're here! We're Trump supporters! Get used to it!!" They'd better get used to being laughed off the court. I've seen what happens to playaz who are not wanted on the court. Like Trump famously said, "carried out on a stretcher." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 9 minutes ago, robosmith said: They'd better get used to being laughed off the court. I've seen what happens to playaz who are not wanted on the court. Like Trump famously said, "carried out on a stretcher." Trump regularly gets laughed out of court. Stands to reason that people wearing those hideous shoes are okay getting laughed off the court. But really, I don't think any sensible person is going to try to actually play basketball in what are undoubtably cheap Chinese generics rebadged without a bit of performance engineering. Sort of like most of the stuff Trump licenses his name for, it's a rip off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted February 19 Author Report Share Posted February 19 19 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Sadly for you, this is not about public opinion. "Editor’s Note: David Orentlicher is the Judge Jack and Lulu Lehman Professor at the William S. Boyd School of Law at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, where he specializes in constitutional law and health law. He also serves as a Democrat in the Nevada Assembly." The MAN is an EXPERT in the LAW. Expert? All the man said is that the legal actions against Trump are not harming his political support. The author doesn’t say whether Trump is innocent or guilty, or whether he should be prosecuted or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, Rebound said: Expert? All the man said is that the legal actions against Trump are not harming his political support. The author doesn’t say whether Trump is innocent or guilty, or whether he should be prosecuted or not. Exactly. NO legal opinions given. LMAO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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