Are the Democrats an Actual Cult?

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Ok so you're Team Protestant?

Not at all. I'm on "team" anti-crime by pols.

[impartialobserver]

49 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Nothing like "losing their jobs", "being banned from public places", or anything of that sort? 

This is why I can't take you seriously. You must be messing with me. 

[robosmith]

13 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Well you have Biden who is a puppet on strings.  A lot of Democrat supporters definitely behave like they're in some kind of cult or religion and you're viewed as a heretic if you criticize The Party.

Meanwhile, a Republican pol criticizing Trump is threatened with a primary opponent (loss of his job).

You apparently don't understand the difference between allegiance to a Party and its goals (which are criticized routinely), and  getting death threats for opposing Trump's crimes and holding him accountable. 

 

[robosmith]

51 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Nothing like "losing their jobs", "being banned from public places", or anything of that sort? 

Maybe in Canada, but here everyone but healthcare workers and military had the option of weekly testing instead of vaxxed.

I could go anywhere and would only get dirty looks or scolding by strangers IF I didn't have my mask on. NO "banned."

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Maybe in Canada, but here everyone but healthcare workers and military had the option of weekly testing instead of vaxxed.

I could go anywhere and would only get dirty looks or scolding by strangers IF I didn't have my mask on. NO "banned."

are you not aware that if something happens to a relative minority of the whole (all workers regardless of industry) then that is EXACTLY the same as it happening to everyone. 

however, if liberals/democrats were a cult.. their would be no variance in their views. The consequences for not falling in line would be exactly the same for everyone.

[WestCanMan]

21 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

This is why I can't take you seriously. You must be messing with me. 

You say things like this:

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For example, I know folks who are quite liberal that did not get vaxxed and besides a shrug of the shoulders.. not much happened. 

and then you talk about people who don't deserve to be taken seriously 😂

Just a quick question: who put vaccine mandates in place, and forced people to vax? Was it conservatives? 

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Maybe in Canada, but here everyone but healthcare workers and military had the option of weekly testing instead of vaxxed.

I could go anywhere and would only get dirty looks or scolding by strangers IF I didn't have my mask on. NO "banned."

So Canada was the worst country in the western world. Go figger.

My bad, I thought your Fuhrer was as bad as ours.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So Canada was the worst country in the western world. Go figger.

My bad, I thought your Fuhrer was as bad as ours.

He was but he lacked the authority to do the same things.

But - nurses and military were fired if they didn't comply.

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He was but he lacked the authority to do the same things.

But - nurses and military were fired if they didn't comply.

So the American Fuhrer only forced about 20M Americans to vax, is that about right? 10M military and 10M medical? 

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's just an example of you trying to switch the topic, and you couldn't even try to deny it, hence the cultist label.

No, an example of fictional would be the Russian collusion show trial. Remember Hillaries stories about hookers peeing on beds, etc? The ones that sucked you and Beave in so badly?

In case you forgot, the dems and FBI committed a string of crimes together to try to unseat the duly elected president.

Demmie cultists like you didn't even know about the FBI's crimes because CNN et al didn't even talk about them, but when you cultists found out you just said "Crimes, shmimes." Yo weren't even upset about being lied to. 

Then the FBI worked with the Dems' media to interfere in the 2020 election by banning information about the Hunter laptop from being disseminated.

Look up shred in the dictionary, dumbass. 

Whatever, cultist.

There is ample evidence Trump campaign colluded with Russia. It's part of the congressional record. The Republican majority in the Senate chose not to hold him accountable, but it doesn't change the facts. 

I love that in conspiracy kook land one guy at the FBI taking an improper (and it turns out inaccurate) shortcut on his paperwork constitutes a "string of crimes." The perp got a smack on the hand in court (probation) and that's the sole outcome of the Durham investigation--aside from the acknowledgement that the initial facts to support collusion indeed merited an initial investigation.   -- Meanwhile, a kid in Cleveland shoplifted a pack of gum. Or what you'd refer to as a crime spree.🙄

The FBI had no power to "ban" discussion of the Hunter Biden laptop files. So that's crap. What actually happened is that the media didn't want to tilt a second election in a row by giving a megaphone to another spurious October surprise. So they exercised a modicum of caution and restraint regarding a wildly improbably story that was so sketchy the original author at the NY Post refused to put their name on it. 

And while you may need a dictionary most people already know the meaning of the word "shred." As in, if he had been able to produce a shred of evidence that the election was stolen through fraud, Trump wouldn't have been laughed out of court 60+ times. You know, because courts deal in facts and evidence, not bruised egos and bluster. You. on the other hand, simply believe without question it because your orange messiah told you.  

I'm all for freedom of religion, but as a favor to the rest of us, please keep the candles around your Trump shrine to no more than 6. We're dealing with a warming planet here. And besides, any more than that and it starts to look gaudy.

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So the American Fuhrer only forced about 20M Americans to vax, is that about right? 10M military and 10M medical? 

Many more vaccinations than just COVID have always been required for the military. You know why?

Since military service is entirely voluntary, so are the vaccinations.

Of course, the same principle applies to healthcare workers. We needed them working during the emergency, not home with COVID. 

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, Hodad said:

There is ample evidence Trump campaign colluded with Russia.

There is virtually none. Mueller said so - he made it clear. If there was ample evidence there would have been charges.

There's evidence trumps people talked to russians but zero of "collusion" or conspiracy.

ANd it's a blatant lie to say the only problem with the fbi was one guy making a typo.

And its these kinds of lies that make it look like the dems are corrupt and will do anything to win the election, and that's what makes it so easy for people to believe stories about election fraud. I mean you guys just lie your asses off.

Trump will wind up being the next president at this rate and it's largely due to people reacting badly to democrat lies. If you'd shut up or told the truth he'd be dead in the water.  BUt you turn him into a martyr.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

There is ample evidence Trump campaign colluded with Russia. It's part of the congressional record. The Republican majority in the Senate chose not to hold him accountable, but it doesn't change the facts. 

Wrong.

The FBI found "NO EVIDENCE" that Trump colluded with Russians. None at all.

Tell your lies to people who are stupid enough to believe them, I know what Mueller said.

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 I love that in conspiracy kook land one guy at the FBI taking an improper (and it turns out inaccurate) shortcut on his paperwork constitutes a "string of crimes." The perp got a smack on the hand in court (probation) and that's the sole outcome of the Durham investigation--aside from the acknowledgement that the initial facts to support collusion indeed merited an initial investigation.   -- Meanwhile, a kid in Cleveland shoplifted a pack of gum. Or what you'd refer to as a crime spree.🙄

There was no "improper shortcut". Clinesmith altered the meaning of the email entirely to fit the FBI's false narrative: "Page may be a Russian spy". 

The CIA informed them BEFORE THE FIRST FISA APPLICATION that Page was a CIA asset. That info was NEVER passed along to the FISA court. The FISA judge always just assumed that the FBI wasn't lying to them.

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The FBI had no power to "ban" discussion of the Hunter Biden laptop files. So that's crap. What actually happened is that the media didn't want to tilt a second election in a row by giving a megaphone to another spurious October surprise. So they exercised a modicum of caution and restraint regarding a wildly improbably story that was so sketchy the original author at the NY Post refused to put their name on it. 

That's not what happened at all stupid. 

The FBI warned all those guys that Russian disinformation coming. 

I'm not Mark Zuckerberg, nor am I an editor for the BBC. Read the following article, dummy: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532

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Zuckerberg tells Rogan FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

What does ^that^ tell you? 

Blocking info about the laptop had absolutely NOTHING to do with "the media didn't want to tilt a second election in a row by giving a megaphone to another spurious October surprise."

Are you kidding me? "The media"? How is it that all of the media outlets came to the exact same conclusion at the same time again? 

What a load of horseshit. Do you honestly think that CNN was worried about putting out more disinformation? 🤣

I gotta admit, that was pretty hilarious. 

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And while you may need a dictionary most people already know the meaning of the word "shred." As in, if he had been able to produce a shred of evidence that the election was stolen through fraud, Trump wouldn't have been laughed out of court 60+ times. You know, because courts deal in facts and evidence, not bruised egos and bluster. You. on the other hand, simply believe without question it because your orange messiah told you.  

I'm all for freedom of religion, but as a favor to the rest of us, please keep the candles around your Trump shrine to no more than 6. We're dealing with a warming planet here. And besides, any more than that and it starts to look gaudy.

The jig is up, stupid.

Everyone here knows that you're a liar.

Everyone on earth knows that the FBI NEVER FOUND A SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT TRUMP COLLUDED WITH RUSSIANS.

Not one shred.

The FBI and Crowdstrike never even found that the DNC server was hacked. The CEO of crowdstrike testified to that under oath, and the FBI never got their hands on it.

Assange said that the emails came from a leak.

The FBI's collusion entrapment setup failed.

ZERO EVIDENCE, dummy. 

Do you never get tired of being caught lying? Do you get some kind of rush from it? 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Many more vaccinations than just COVID have always been required for the military. You know why?

Since military service is entirely voluntary, so are the vaccinations.

Of course, the same principle applies to healthcare workers. We needed them working during the emergency, not home with COVID. 

Vaccines are mandatory. 

Actual vaccines.

Vaccines that have been proven safe and almost 100% effective for decades. 

Vaccines that anyone with half a brain would take themselves, and which they woud definitely give their children.

Not an experimental mRNA jab. Not a jab that was already proven to be ineffective in the Israeli ICUs. 

[impartialobserver]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You say things like this:

and then you talk about people who don't deserve to be taken seriously 😂

Just a quick question: who put vaccine mandates in place, and forced people to vax? Was it conservatives? 

obfuscating are we? Yes, indeed. that is not my point and you know it.. but your zealousness does not allow for simple reading comprehension. When some of my quite liberal coworkers were not vaccinated, did the others ostracize them? No.. not even a syllable. That is the point. For them to be a cult, their has to be little variance in their views and this shows a distinct gap.. which would not be allowed in a cult. 

[robosmith]

34 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Vaccines are mandatory. 

Actual vaccines.

Vaccines that have been proven safe and almost 100% effective for decades. 

Vaccines that anyone with half a brain would take themselves, and which they woud definitely give their children.

Not an experimental mRNA jab. Not a jab that was already proven to be ineffective in the Israeli ICUs. 

If someone is in the ICU with COVID, one would not necessarily expect a vaccine to be effective treatment because the immune system has already been exposed to the REAL virus.

That's why they have other medications like Paxlovid to treat people who HAVE COVID.

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

For some reason you guys all seem to think that paying hookers to pee on a bed is the kind of thing that people do. 

But in 2023, the biggest question isn’t whether the rumor is true; it’s why Trump keeps reminding us that he’s been accused of doing some pretty depraved stuff. On the surface, it seems he thinks the story is so ridiculous that it discredits all of his political opponents. He could be dropping references to Melania so her absence from the campaign trail isn’t quite so noticeable. Perhaps he’s still worried that people believe the story and doesn’t realize that obsessively talking about it comes off as a tad suspicious. Or maybe Trump knows that the more time we spend talking about golden showers, the less time we’re thinking about all the horrifying things he’s plotting for his second term!

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/trump-melania-golden-showers-denial.html

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

obfuscating are we? Yes, indeed. that is not my point and you know it.. but your zealousness does not allow for simple reading comprehension. When some of my quite liberal coworkers were not vaccinated, did the others ostracize them? No.. not even a syllable. That is the point. For them to be a cult, their has to be little variance in their views and this shows a distinct gap.. which would not be allowed in a cult. 

Buddy, your little anecdote is cute. I'm happy that you can pull a story out of your ass that seems kind of on-topic: that's actually a win by your standards.

But let's not play pretend that leftards didn't go all-in with the vax. Not just 40% of them. Not 70% of them. Way over 90% of leftards backed all the fake vax promises, forgave all the back-peddling, and supported all the vax-Naziism. Every bit of it.

• Don't wear masks, that's the worst. It's all about washing your hands.
• Now you MUST wear masks.
• Even walking outside is dangerous. 
• Military and hospital staff must take the vax or they'll be fired
• the unvaxed can be taken off of medical wait-lists
• the unvaxed can't fly
• the unvaxed can't cross the border

etc, etc

ALL leftards backed all of that. All of them. Find a post from a leftard here speaking out against removing the unvaxed from wait-lists if you think I'm wrong. 

Even some conservatives were vaxtards. They were overwhelmed by the full-court press on the radio, on TV, by the water-cooler, on social media, with the workplace rules that they had to abide by to keep their jobs.... The fear was palpable. The cultish insanity was present in every covid-related conversation. 

Even knowing that 86% of vaxed deaths in Canada doesn't get leftards to question the necessity of mandates. The vax was their new God and they can't blaspheme. 

Sorry, your little office experience doesn't speak for a whole country. The actions of the Dems - ie the US gov't - and their unwavering support from every alt-left media outlet speaks for your country. Every tech giant decision that letfists supported speaks for your country. Every covid Karen who got hero status speaks for your country. Every nutjob poster who said "covid disinformation" about something that turned out to be true speaks for your country. Every poll that showed leftards 99% behind every bit of covid BS speaks for your country. 

The Dems ARE cult-leaders. Anyone who carries a DNC membership card is an actual brain-dead cultist. 

[WestCanMan]

51 minutes ago, eyeball said:

But in 2023, the biggest question isn’t whether the rumor is true; it’s why Trump keeps reminding us that he’s been accused of doing some pretty depraved stuff. On the surface, it seems he thinks the story is so ridiculous that it discredits all of his political opponents. He could be dropping references to Melania so her absence from the campaign trail isn’t quite so noticeable. Perhaps he’s still worried that people believe the story and doesn’t realize that obsessively talking about it comes off as a tad suspicious. Or maybe Trump knows that the more time we spend talking about golden showers, the less time we’re thinking about all the horrifying things he’s plotting for his second term!

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/trump-melania-golden-showers-denial.html

Ironically, that post is actually the best rebuttal against the alt-left cultist claim so far. 

Not because it's in some way pertinent, truthful or insightful, but because it's characterized as more of a salacious drivelfest than a frothy mouthed cultist rant. 

Truth: Are you on Valium right now? Prozac? Horse tranqs? How many joints have you smoked? 

[Caswell Thomas]

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

https://www.newsweek.com/why-rose-mcgowan-thinks-democrats-deep-cult-1586658

Rose McGowan knows a thing or two about being in a cult, her parents were in one when she was a child.

She said: ""And I do believe Democrats, most especially, are in a deep cult that they really don't know about and aren't really aware of."

If you look at the way their sheeple in this forum gobble up and regurgitate any and all propaganda it's obvious. Nothing has to make sense to them, they never need to see any actual evidence of anything, they are simply told that the emperor has low inflation and voila, there it is! They see it right in front of them. No matter how much more expensive everything around them actually is, inflation is still low, by definition. The emperor also has a new vax. Etc, etc.

Never forget what this hateful piece of garbage said about everyone who voted against him:

 

Tell me these aren't cultists:

Their "Scream At The Sky" event lol:

 

 

 

Ok. They are not Cultists. They are a political group, the same as the Republucans, and thanks bro Donald Trump they , and the GOP, now look more like those who protested the SS and those who were sent to Troiblinka for doing so. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Ok. They are not Cultists. They are a political group, the same as the Republucans, and thanks bro Donald Trump they , and the GOP, now look more like those who protested the SS and those who were sent to Troiblinka for doing so. 

Buddy, you didn't even know that the FBI committed crimes until about a month ago. 

How is it that a member of the FBI can get caught altering an email to provide false information to a FISA court judge to get a warrant to spy on the president, and that's not news? 

How is it that you know all about a rumour of hookers peeing on a bed, but you don't know about FBI crimes against against a duly elected president? 

You clearly live within a cult, oblivious of what's going on around you. 

[Caswell Thomas]

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Buddy, you didn't even know that the FBI committed crimes until about a month ago. 

How is it that a member of the FBI can get caught altering an email to provide false information to a FISA court judge to get a warrant to spy on the president, and that's not news? 

How is it that you know all about a rumour of hookers peeing on a bed, but you don't know about FBI crimes against against a duly elected president? 

You clearly live within a cult, oblivious of what's going on around you. 

And, as usual, ignorance based on fallacy is presented as factual history with no source. 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

And, as usual, ignorance based on fallacy is presented as factual history with no source. 

I believe you were provided with that previously, and it's common knowledge and easy to find with a web search

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-b9b3c7ef398d00d5dfee9170d66cefec

you're familiar with what sealioning is right? Don't be that guy

[WestCanMan]

12 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

as usual, ignorance based on fallacy is presented as factual history with no source. 

Is that the leftist credo, or your own mantra? 

I congratulate you on your newfound honesty. 

[WestCanMan]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-b9b3c7ef398d00d5dfee9170d66cefec

And that's even from an AP article, and AP is part of the "Trusted" News Initiative: all of them being anti-Trump Dem/FBI apologists to a man.

Their quote:

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Charging documents filed Friday say Clinesmith altered an email he received in June 2017 from another government agency to say that Page was “not a source” for that agency, then forwarded it along to a colleague. 

I don't know if "he" even received it from the CIA, but "a lot of people in the FBI" received it, long before the first warrant to spy.

RealClearPolitics:

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However, newly discovered records reveal no fewer than 10 instances, starting as early as 2009, in which top officials at FBI headquarters came to possess evidence that Page was acting on behalf of the CIA and the FBI itself, yet hid this exculpatory evidence from a secret federal surveillance court.

Back to the AP article:

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The FBI relied on Clinesmith’s representation in the email when it submitted its fourth and final application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to secretly eavesdrop on Page on suspicions that he was a potential Russian agent.

The last warrant was a long time after June 2017, wne the article says Clinesmith got the email.

There were 4 warrants, and they were all signed off on after the info was given to many FBI officials. Clinesmith was just the fall guy.