Trump: Nikki Haley Responsible for Jan 6 Attack

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Boo hoo hoo.

Let me tell you "what Trump is serving".

Secure border.

 

Secure against legal immigrants.

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Drill baby drill.

 

The slogan for his plan to employ aging porn stars.

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Draining the swamp.

 

With a straw. Sluuuurp.

Edited January 23, 2024 by Hodad

[robosmith]

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

This white privilege...where do you see it? I work in an office where I'm a minority and it's been that way for years now.

I've seen it all my life. My father helped me find jobs through connections at his job and people he knew.

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Are you saying black people are not capable of surviving on their own? Gee...that's rather racist.

No lDIOT, I'm saying that those who apply for financial aid NEED IT for survival. Duh

And that many blacks are at a disadvantage in competing with white privilege.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Go down to Harlem and ask the kids where their daddy is...or who their daddy is.

Let me know how that works out.

Their "daddy" is Uncle Sam, even if their biological father is nowhere to be found.

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, Hodad said:

Secure against legal immigrants.

The slogan for his plan to employ aging porn stars.

With a straw. Sluuuurp.

Cute. Yet even you know his policies work great.

Have a nice day.

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

I've seen it all my life. My father helped me find jobs through connections at his job and people he knew.

No lDIOT, I'm saying that those who apply for financial aid NEED IT for survival. Duh

And that many blacks are at a disadvantage in competing with white privilege.

If a black kids dad stayed home and had a job, the kid could benefit from that too.

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

If a black kids dad stayed home and had a job, the kid could benefit from that too.

Not nearly as much. 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

If a black kids dad stayed home and had a job, the kid could benefit from that too.

Yeah but that's tough to legislate.  How you gonna make them stay?  Velcro maybe i suppose but ....

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Not nearly as much. 

Actually the research there is pretty overwhelming - it would help MASSIVELY.  It is just about the number 1 issue that keeps the kids underachieving and poor.  this holds them back more than current poverty or 'white privlidge' or anything like that.

Its hard to overestimate the impact.  Obviously nothing the gov't can really do about it except maybe education but if the community really pressured young black people to be sure they used protection till they were ready to get married AND if a girl gets pregnant you stick around and be a dad, then the number of black children who grew up out of poverty and lead successful lives would go up radically.

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Not nearly as much. 

how do you figure?

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah but that's tough to legislate.  How you gonna make them stay?  Velcro maybe i suppose but ....

You can't legislate it. But you can change the messaging and social norms. It would take a while but if leaders were to quit excusing people for being irresponsible...perhaps even actively prosecute criminals...social ideologies would begin to shift in a positive direction.

It took a decade to make single motherhood "normal". It would take a decade to make it frowned upon again.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

You can't legislate it. But you can change the messaging and social norms. It would take a while but if leaders were to quit excusing people for being irresponsible...perhaps even actively prosecute criminals...social ideologies would begin to shift in a positive direction.

It took a decade to make single motherhood "normal". It would take a decade to make it frowned upon again.

well i think you're on the right track there.  It has to come from within the community mostly but they have to really push back and make it 'normal' for parents to stay together as a couple and NOT have kids till they're ready. And work and live together to make a family and have a life. Thats' a game changer.

When you make it 'ok' and 'normal' to run out on your baby or to have unprotected sex and get pregnant as a woman then this is what happens.

the problem is - you solve that by raising your kids better. A dad teaches his kid by example and education how to live and treat women etc.  well guess what happens when you have no dad around. So it's hard to break that cycle.

We see this in a number of communities. Our own first nations have very similar problems.

Raise your kids in the right environment and the majority of these problems go away.

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Of course the kid benefits from having a dad at home, but if it’s in an impoverished urban area, that father won’t know how to advise his kid to be upwardly mobile. He won’t have contacts to get him a good job, or get into a good school. Those are the things Robo mentioned.  
 

Sadly, we have complex problems, and complex problems don’t have simple solutions.  

That is not what the research shows at all.  Not at all.

First - if the father stays home and works, ANY job, the stats show very soon they will be middle class and not poor. Single moms are vastly more likely to be poor and raise their kids poor.

Secondly - the stats show kids from homes like that are vastly more likely to break out the cycle of poverty.  White or black.

Thirdly they are more likely to succeed in education.

So - you're really not correct across the board.  There would still be some kids who don't make it or struggle and perhaps some areas where there's still local poverty for various reasons (there are for white people too) but it WOULD solve the vast majority of the problems.

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

how do you figure?

Of course children benefit from having a dad at home, but if it’s in an impoverished urban area, that father won’t know how to advise his kid to be upwardly mobile. He won’t have contacts to get him a good job, or get into a good school. Those are the things Robo mentioned.  
 

Sadly, we have complex problems, and complex problems don’t have simple solutions.

[Hodad]

18 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Cute. Yet even you know his policies work great.

Have a nice day.

I do not know that, and there's no data to support that notion. For all his noise, he didn't alter the trajectory of the economy at all--until the Pandemic, even he helped push it off a cliff.

[robosmith]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

If a black kids dad stayed home and had a job, the kid could benefit from that too.

IF a frog had wings, it wouldn't thump its butt. 

Black people's behavior has been shaped by a long history of BRUTAL TREATMENT by guess who.

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, Hodad said:

I do not know that, and there's no data to support that notion. For all his noise, he didn't alter the trajectory of the economy at all--until the Pandemic, even he helped push it off a cliff.

Boy that's some interesting alternate reality you got going there.

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

IF a frog had wings, it wouldn't thump its butt. 

Black people's behavior has been shaped by a long history of BRUTAL TREATMENT by guess who.

The liberal Democrats.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Boy that's some interesting alternate reality you got going there.

The liberal Democrats.

And we both know that i've posted exhaustive data many times.  Hodad just ignores anything that doesn't support his chosen conclusion. The evidence is extremely clear and easy to follow.

Instead, he makes false claims like 'trump ran deficits twice as high as Biden", which of course is false, trump was lower than obama or biden, even if you look at just the averages.

He's a brain washed loon, you might as well be arguing with a roll of soggy toilet paper

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The liberal Democrats.

Sure. Getting food and housing temporary aid is really BRUTAL in your world.

Boy that's some interesting alternate reality you got going there.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Sure. Getting food and housing temporary aid is really BRUTAL in your world.

Boy that's some interesting alternate reality you got going there.

Getting that way for sure.  We're seeing temporary tent cities and camper villages popping up so fast they're calling them 'trudeau towns' now.  The food banks are so busy they're turning people away - regular working people can't afford rent, someone on gov't assistance isn't going to have an easy time of it.  Things have gotten pretty bad up here.

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Sure. Getting food and housing temporary aid is really BRUTAL in your world.

Boy that's some interesting alternate reality you got going there.

Yes. It's like patting a kid for lighting your house on fire.

[robosmith]

On 1/25/2024 at 9:11 PM, Nationalist said:

Yes. It's like patting a kid for lighting your house on fire.

Maybe in your MAGA CULT world where desperate immigrants deserve to have their kids stolen without records to ever be reunited with their parents. 🤮

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Maybe in your MAGA CULT world where desperate immigrants deserve to have their kids stolen without records to ever be reunited with their parents. 🤮

Sure that happens a lot but i'm sure Biden has a very good reason.

Funny you don't care when it's him doing it do you  

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Maybe in your MAGA CULT world where desperate immigrants deserve to have their kids stolen without records to ever be reunited with their parents. 🤮

Gee...you should ask Biden to stop that then.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Gee...you should ask Biden to stop that then.

Thanks for demonstrating your IGNORANCE of the FACT that it is Biden who is trying to put the families back together.

I guess FOS LIES has let you down again. Or is it just willful ignorance.

[herbie]

She shouldn't think of dropping out. Damn good chance Republicans wouldn't even have a candidate to run election day if she did.