Colorado Supreme Court rules insurrectionist Trump ineligible

Deluge · December 20, 2023

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

That is NOT a CONSTITUTIONAL prohibition; it is US criminal code, dummy.

I was talking about MY CITE. The Conservative Legal Roadmap to Disqualify Trump From Office

You can't even keep the argument straight.

Biden would get ousted regardless, therefore, it doesn't NEED to be IN the Constitution itself.

The argument is whether you retards can use the 14th Amendment to block Trump from state ballots. The answer is NO, and you will see that when the SC strikes down the anti-Trump cultists in Colorado.

Edited December 20, 2023 by Deluge

Deluge · December 20, 2023

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Please call for an ambulance to take you to the hospital cause it seems you're having a stroke.

You're down to 16 functioning brain cells, robodeficient; you'd better pace yourself.

robosmith · December 20, 2023

Just now, Deluge said:

Biden would get ousted regardless, therefore, it doesn't NEED to be IN the Constitution itself.

Only if there is EVIDENCE of and CONVICTION for Treason. There IS NOT an equivalent Constitutional PROHIBITION.

Are you really so dumb you can't tell the difference? Or purposely obtuse cause you can't otherwise make a coherent argument.

Just now, Deluge said:

The argument is whether you retards can use the 14th Amendment to block Trump from state ballots. The answer is NO, and you will see that when the US SC strikes down the SC frauds in Colorado.

I would not bet that they won't cause they are CORRUPT and PARTISAN enough to do it. Just like when they stopped the recount to declare Bush the winner over Gore, and said it was NOT PRECEDENT.

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You're down to 16 functioning brain cells, robodeficient; you'd better pace yourself.

I'll take ^this as a compliment from the guy whose arguments I'm completely destroying.

So badly he has to resort to infantile name calling.

Deluge · December 20, 2023

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. Only if there is EVIDENCE of and CONVICTION for Treason. There IS NOT an equivalent Constitutional PROHIBITION.

Are you really so dumb you can't tell the difference? Or purposely obtuse cause you can't otherwise make a coherent argument.

2. I would not bet that they won't cause they are CORRUPT and PARTISAN enough to do it. Just like when they stopped the recount to declare Bush the winner over Gore, and said it was NOT PRECEDENT.

3. I'll take ^this as a compliment from the guy whose arguments I'm completely destroying.

So badly he has to resort to infantile name calling.

1. there doesn't have to be a direct "equivalent". Only a deranged finger pointing a$$hole like you would make that distinction. It's IMPLIED that Trump would have to be convicted first, otherwise people could just run around and lawfully accuse each other of whatever the f*ck they wanted. With your dumbass take on the 14th Amendment EVERYONE would eventually be guilty of EVERYTHING.

2. The SC is in a good place right now. The very fact that you perverts are complaining shows that it's in a good place.

3. You'll take that as a compliment because you're an ldiot, and you love being abused.

I've been kicking your a$$ all up and down this forum and you keep coming back for more - it's fascinating

CdnFox · December 20, 2023

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

It is unlikely that prohibition would be Constitutional, because the Constitution establishes qualifications.

No court case is necessary to determine if those qualifications have been met tho according to you people.

41 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Only if there is EVIDENCE of and CONVICTION for Treason.

Nope. No trial necessary. You said so previously.

robosmith · December 20, 2023

43 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. there doesn't have to be a direct "equivalent". Only a deranged finger pointing a$$hole like you would make that distinction. It's IMPLIED that Trump would have to be convicted first, otherwise people could just run around and lawfully accuse each other of whatever the f*ck they wanted. With your dumbass take on the 14th Amendment EVERYONE would eventually be guilty of EVERYTHING.

2. The SC is in a good place right now. The very fact that you perverts are complaining shows that it's in a good place.

3. You'll take that as a compliment because you're an ldiot, and you love being abused.

I've been kicking your a$$ all up and down this forum and you keep coming back for more - it's fascinating

1. No it's NOT "IMPLIED." The Constitution says "engaged in insurrection," NOT 'convicted for insurrection.' duh

That's why the SCoCo held a hearing about Trump being engaged in insurrection and HE LOST.

2. You MUST BE completely unaware of the evidence of JoSCOTUS being bribed to stay in the SCOTUS, to believe they are "in a good place right now."

3. Only in your FANTASIES. You can't even keep the arguments straight.

CrakHoBarbie · December 20, 2023

2 hours ago, suds said:

If the Colorado Supreme Court was really that interested in democracy, they'd let the people decide. JMO

It wasn't the people who decided to implement a plan to install fake electors.

That was Donald.

And, that was election Interference.

Donald's dirty and so are his cultists.

Hodad · December 20, 2023

1 hour ago, suds said:

If the Colorado Supreme Court was really that interested in democracy, they'd let the people decide. JMO

In an absolute sense, you're right, but we're not an absolute democracy. The Constitution exists to provide guardrails that protect and preserve the nation, even from the excesses of the population.

It prohibits the election of a foreign citizen as President to prevent giving that power to someone loyal to another county. It prevents the election of someone who has engaged in insurrection because that person has already demonstrated that they are not loyal to the country, but to some other interest.

It's unfathomable that people would want vote for someone who has already betrayed a constitutional oath and attempted to steal power and subvert the will of the people, but if people were inclined to do so (and apparently many are) the 14th amendment is the guardrail meant to prevent bad judgement from becoming a fatal mistake. A vote to end democracy is anti-democratic. Funny, but serious.

robosmith · December 20, 2023

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

In an absolute sense, you're right, but we're not an absolute democracy. The Constitution exists to provide guardrails that protect and preserve the nation, even from the excesses of the population.

It prohibits the election of a foreign citizen as President to prevent giving that power to someone loyal to another county. It prevents the election of someone who has engaged in insurrection because that person has already demonstrated that they are not loyal to the country, but to some other interest.

It's unfathomable that people would want vote for someone who has already betrayed a constitutional oath and attempted to steal power and subvert the will of the people, but if people were inclined to do so (and apparently many are) the 14th amendment is the guardrail meant to prevent bad judgement from becoming a fatal mistake. A vote to end democracy is anti-democratic. Funny, but serious.

It is fathomable when you consider that they believe what Trump and FOS LIES tells them.

Esp the part about other news sources being "fake."

CdnFox · December 20, 2023

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

People don’t have faith in the government because Donald Trump is doing all he can do to destroy all faith in the government. Dude… the man lies almost every time he opens his mouth, although he was telling the truth when he said he will become Dictator on Day One. You vote for a dictator… the results go REALLY bad. Just look at the Germans… didn’t go well. The Venezuelans who elected Hugo Chavez weren’t too happy with the results. When somebody says they’ll be a dictator, BELIEVE THEM.

Sorry but it's both parties.

THe steele dossier, the absolutely ridiculous charges against trump recently (not talking about the handful of legit ones but rather the painfully stupid ones), The insane hyperbole about how he'll end democracy, the fbi behaviour and criminal activity, the whole 'mail in ballot' fiasco which the dems pushed knowing it would LOOK like it was being illegally exploited whether it was or wasn't, etc etc etc.

Trump has played his part but the dems were there first and often right along side making it an order of magnitude worse.

I mean - it's not my country. But - you guys are going to crash and burn for sure if this keeps up. Once faith is completely shaken in the rule of law and democratic process it's almost impossible to recover and the riots of 2021 and jan 06 will seem like a pleasant memory compared to what eventually happens when people hit that point.

CdnFox · December 20, 2023

43 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. No it's NOT "IMPLIED." The Constitution says "engaged in insurrection," NOT 'convicted for insurrection.' duh

That's why the SCoCo held a hearing about Trump being engaged in insurrection and HE LOST.

2. You MUST BE completely unaware of the evidence of JoSCOTUS being bribed to stay in the SCOTUS, to believe they are "in a good place right now."

3. Only in your FANTASIES. You can't even keep the arguments straight.

You know why that's stupid right? I don't have to explain it?

You could claim that anyone who didn't speak out about the 2021 riots or in any way supported them engaged in insurection. You realize that without a body saying 'this is or is not insurrection', most of the dems would also qualify?

So what happens when trump gets in DESPITE this little trick and convinces all the red states to pull the same on any democrat candidate. Do you not see how this ends?

Americans are going to wind up burning their country to the ground because of stupidity like yours.

herbie · December 20, 2023

How many other State courts are being asked to rule on the same issue?

Don't States themselves have the right to decide who qualifies to be on that State's ballot?

CdnFox · December 20, 2023

1 minute ago, herbie said:

How many other State courts are being asked to rule on the same issue?

Don't States themselves have the right to decide who qualifies to be on that State's ballot?

Not really.

Are you seriously suggesting that states can independently decide who gets to run for president and who doesn't? That they can just up and say "no - we don't like biden he's not going on the ballot'? Give your head a shake.

robosmith · December 20, 2023

57 minutes ago, herbie said:

How many other State courts are being asked to rule on the same issue?

Don't States themselves have the right to decide who qualifies to be on that State's ballot?

That remains to be seen. If the SCOTUS refuses to consider the appeal (unlikely) the state SC will have the last word.

Deluge · December 21, 2023

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

1. No it's NOT "IMPLIED." The Constitution says "engaged in insurrection," NOT 'convicted for insurrection.' duh

That's why the SCoCo held a hearing about Trump being engaged in insurrection and HE LOST.

2. You MUST BE completely unaware of the evidence of JoSCOTUS being bribed to stay in the SCOTUS, to believe they are "in a good place right now."

3. Only in your FANTASIES. You can't even keep the arguments straight.

1. YES it is. And since Trump never was part of an insurrection, the Colorado SC is dead wrong. So the question now is: What are YOU doing to help those Trump hating psychopaths see the error of their ways?

2. Just giving you the truth. It's up to you to process the info correctly.

3. I never fantasize about the truth, roboslut,. I beat degenerates like you over the head with it.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Deluge

robosmith · December 21, 2023

16 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. YES it is. And since Trump never was part of an insurrection, the Colorado SC is dead wrong. So the question now is: What are YOU doing to help those Trump hating psychopaths see the error of their ways?

See unlike ^this OPINION, the CoSC heard EVIDENCE at the hearing to determine that Trump engaged in an insurrection.

You never have ANY evidence for your opinion.

16 minutes ago, Deluge said:

2. Just giving you the truth. It's up to you to process the info correctly.

You don't even know about the right wing mega donors bribing Thomas to not quit. LMAO

16 minutes ago, Deluge said:

3. I never fantasize about the truth, roboslut,. I beat degenerates like you over the head with it.

You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass. You certainly don't post ANY evidence for YOUR "truth."

Edited December 21, 2023 by robosmith

Deluge · December 21, 2023

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

See unlike ^this OPINION, the CoSC heard EVIDENCE at the hearing to determine that Trump engaged in an insurrection.

You never have ANY evidence for your opinion.

You don't even know about the right wing mega donors bribing Thomas to not quit. LMAO

You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass. You certainly don't post ANY evidence for YOUR "truth."

There is no opinion over here; there's just the 14th Amendment not supporting your Trump hating pals in the Colorado SC.

But don't worry, the highest court in the land will set them straight.

robosmith · December 21, 2023

36 minutes ago, Deluge said:

There is no opinion over here; there's just the 14th Amendment not supporting your Trump hating pals in the Colorado SC.

The Colorado SC followed and enforced the 14 Amendment. Duh.

36 minutes ago, Deluge said:

But don't worry, the highest court in the land will set them straight.

I am worried that the partisan right wing corrupt SCOTUS will NOT follow the 14th Amendment.

herbie · December 21, 2023

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

That remains to be seen. If the SCOTUS refuses to consider the appeal (unlikely) the state SC will have the last word.

According to a news reports similar motions are being considered or already underway in 12 states. Who perhaps will not suspend their decision until after a SCOTUS decision.

robosmith · December 21, 2023

14 hours ago, Deluge said:

Tyranny and the DNC are one and the same.

If democrats want another civil war, I suppose engaging balls deep in election interference is as good a reason as any to get things moving.

^Typical MAGA CULT, threatening VIOLENCE if they don't get der leader THEY WANT.

Thanks for demonstrating the MAGA CULT has learned NOTHING from all the prison terms your brethren received from INSURRECTION PARTICIPATION.

YOU just make it plain as day that NO MAGA can be trusted to have Constitutional OFFICE POWER.

Deluge · December 21, 2023

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

^Typical MAGA CULT, threatening VIOLENCE if they don't get der leader THEY WANT.

Thanks for demonstrating the MAGA CULT has learned NOTHING from all the prison terms your brethren received from INSURRECTION PARTICIPATION.

YOU just make it plain as day that NO MAGA can be trusted to have Constitutional OFFICE POWER.

There's no such thing as a MAGA CULT. There is, however, a left-wing cult, and it's run by wokeness disciples just like you.

Your compulsion to spread the virus that is wokeism is dangerous to America's health, and it's going to start a war. It's not a matter of if, but when, and personally, I'm here for it.

Deluge · December 21, 2023

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

The Colorado SC followed and enforced the 14 Amendment. Duh.

I am worried that the partisan right wing corrupt SCOTUS will NOT follow the 14th Amendment.

The Colorado SC is unhinged and will be corrected by the US SC.

You're worried that the US SC will disrupt your Trump destruction fantasies. I guess if I obsessed over Trump the way you perverts do, I'd also be worried.

Nationalist · December 21, 2023

17 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

It wasn't the people who decided to implement a plan to install fake electors.

That was Donald.

And, that was election Interference.

Donald's dirty and so are his cultists.

Oh come on Barb. You like the dirty boys.

WestCanMan · December 21, 2023

29 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Oh come on Barb. You like the dirty boys.

Honestly, if you just read through 50 posts in this "US Federal Politics" forum it will become crystal clear which group of posters here are "cultists" and which ones are reasonable, capable, functioning adults.

robosmith · December 21, 2023

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

There's no such thing as a MAGA CULT. There is, however, a left-wing cult, and it's run by wokeness disciples just like you.

You're FoS. No one "just like" me runs any kind of cult.

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Your compulsion to spread the virus that is wokeism is dangerous to America's health, and it's going to start a war. It's not a matter of if, but when, and personally, I'm here for it.

You're the one threatening civil war. That's why the 14th Amendment was passed, and Trump should be taken off the ballot due to inciting an insurrection to overthrow the election.

Because MAGA CULT is all about violence for political ends. AKA, NOT democracy, cause Trump has FAILED to win the popular vote TWICE.