A Catastrophic Climate ‘Tipping Point’ Is Imminent

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Certain types of posters. Just see everything as a personality fight.

A bunch of populist types on here even think I'm left wing if you can believe that.

Michael Hardner is a left-winger who thinks he isn't a left-winger.

I, of course, see though his bullshit which is why he has me in ignore.  

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

Michael Hardner is a left-winger who thinks he isn't a left-winger.

I, of course, see though his bullshit which is why he has me in ignore.  

He has you on ignore because you are an id-iot, but then he is smarter than me.

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

So stop posting stupid stuff.

You must be smoking crack. Of course I won't stop posting stupid stuff like that because they're from your side of the political fense. You both think human beings are causing global climate catastrophe. 

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

He has you on ignore because you are an id-iot, but then he is smarter than me.

Don't you two m0rons just wish I somehow became a casualty of climate crisis? lol

[Deluge]

Any of you moonbats want to take a shot at explaining what, exactly, "imminent" means in this scenario? How long do we have before we actually tip? 

Also, any of you moonbats want to take another shot at explaining what "tipping" will actually look like? 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

What is "your part," that you're doing? Got an EV or Hybrid?

I guess you don't have kids, and see NO REASON to sacrifice ANYTHING YOU WANT to mitigate future climate costs like increased mega storms and droughts.

I bike to work in the summer. Its win win, for health and giving the car a break.

I have resided in a developing country, so am serious about not wasting water. Recycling. Not wasting food, etc.

I think its sad that you're trying to measure my morals, by me "doing enough".

Thats part of the shame culture that really does nothing to mitigate an actual problem.

You resolve problems by focusing on the actual issue. This isn't a measuring stick. It should be a magnifying glass. 

The people not buying in aren't the issue.

When you were able to store thousands of songs on a cellphone. On an MP3 player, in what world are you going to keep using a CD that skips if you jog too fast?

Shaming does nothing. Encouraging works wonders. Incentivizing.

[Aristides]

19 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You must be smoking crack. Of course I won't stop posting stupid stuff like that because they're from your side of the political fense. You both think human beings are causing global climate catastrophe. 

So because there are people who cry in front of trees, everyone who is concerned about the climate is a moonbat who should be living in a cave. If that is the case, I guess you won't mind me calling all Trump supporters NAZI's. See how that works.

[robosmith]

56 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Where in the hell did you get that? lol

I'm saying left-wingers need to stop being hypocrites and move to the caves. If YOU think humans are killing the planet, then YOU meed to drop everything and get your ass to the caves. 

You are very stupid if you believe there are enough "caves" to house more that a very small percentage of the population.

Just stop driving your gas guzzler.

 

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

I bike to work in the summer. Its win win, for health and giving the car a break.

I have resided in a developing country, so am serious about not wasting water. Recycling. Not wasting food, etc.

I think its sad that you're trying to measure my morals, by me "doing enough".

You're the one who said you're "doing your part." I just asked what that means.

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Thats part of the shame culture that really does nothing to mitigate an actual problem.

It does something with everyone that is NOT SHAMELESS.

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

You resolve problems by focusing on the actual issue. This isn't a measuring stick. It should be a magnifying glass. 

The actual issue is how much carbon is pumped from the ground into the atmosphere; measured in gigi-tons.

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

The people not buying in aren't the issue.

Everyone is the issue cause everyone's CO2 pollution is the problem.

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

When you were able to store thousands of songs on a cellphone. On an MP3 player, in what world are you going to keep using a CD that skips if you jog too fast?

Shaming does nothing. Encouraging works wonders. Incentivizing.

Some are blind to the problem and thus in denial about encouragement.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Pay a little extra and buy a Hybrid.

Like I said prior. This is like telling a homeless person to save their money. Impractical, and ignores their situation.

Why would I buy a new car when my current one works just fine?

I may even consider an EV when am back on the market for a new car.

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Today's EVs are ready for prime time.

Not for the kind of driving that I do.

You need to open your mind to the situation people face, in that its not as easy as just buying a car for people.

Just like it isn't just about overhauling an entire crumbling infrastructure for a poorer country which  can barely maintain what they have.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

https://globalnews.ca/news/245731/were-using-50-per-cent-more-resources-than-the-earth-can-provide-what-will-we-do-about-it/

 

Ring a bell?

Yes but he's wrong. Smoking is a perfect example - If you're a liberal you won't shut down the tv - you'll put a tax on it and pretend the problem is solved  

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It does something

It does something for the person shaming. That's all virtue signaling does. Its patting yourself on the back, for a set of morals only you can uphold. 

27 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Everyone is the issue

By that logic, shaming someone who pollutes less makes no sense. Everyone should be shamed.

You're otherwise a prostitute stating she's different, because at least she sleeps with men in luxury hotels (and not in the back of cars like a cheap one), and is only doing it to pay her way through college.

29 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Some are blind to the problem

I don't think its blindness.

I was recently in the Philippines. I don't see a massive push for green initiatives. Are Filipino people blind to climate change?

Or do they have far more pressing issues to contend with?

[CdnFox]

37 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You are very stupid if you believe there are enough "caves" to house more that a very small percentage of the population.

Just stop driving your gas guzzler.

 

Buy a shovel then.  Underground is the perfect place for trolls like you  

[Michael Hardner]

53 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're the one who said you're "doing your part." I just asked what that means.

That poster is on record as refusing to do their part.  But anyway.

I have no problem with moralizing.  People do seem to have a rather ambiguous relationship with it.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

That poster is on record as refusing to do their part.  But anyway.

I have no problem with moralizing.  People do seem to have a rather ambiguous relationship with it.

If we're being honest, if he's doing nothing at all he's doing more than the gov't is currently doing with the taxes and harm to the economy.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Like I said prior. This is like telling a homeless person to save their money. Impractical, and ignores their situation.

Because you're "like a homeless person"? My condolences.

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Why would I buy a new car when my current one works just fine?

Same reason I bought a new Accord Hybrid and sold my 10yo Civic. Big upgrade that I could afford.

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

I may even consider an EV when am back on the market for a new car.

There ya go....

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Not for the kind of driving that I do.

If you're driving less than 300 miles/day, you could use an EV.

Might want to get solar panels and a Power Wall so you can charge it for free.

Right now there's a lot of incentives and you supposedly can get them for no down payment.

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

You need to open your mind to the situation people face, in that its not as easy as just buying a car for people.

Just like it isn't just about overhauling an entire crumbling infrastructure for a poorer country which  can barely maintain what they have.

Poorest countries don't need to act now, they don't contribute much atmospheric CO2.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

It does something for the person shaming. That's all virtue signaling does. Its patting yourself on the back, for a set of morals only you can uphold. 

Everyone can do something. Even you...

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

By that logic, shaming someone who pollutes less makes no sense. Everyone should be shamed.

Pollutes less than what? Whatever is convenient? I will shame them whenever possible.

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

You're otherwise a prostitute stating she's different, because at least she sleeps with men in luxury hotels (and not in the back of cars like a cheap one), and is only doing it to pay her way through college.

IDK what you're talking about. Do  you?

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

I don't think its blindness.

I was recently in the Philippines. I don't see a massive push for green initiatives. Are Filipino people blind to climate change?

Or do they have far more pressing issues to contend with?

As an island nation, nothing is more pressing that sea rise and more and stronger storms.

All they have to do is understand that.

[OftenWrong]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

We live in the world we have, not the one we would like. Pointing fingers won't change that.

So after complaining about conservative 'anti-science' types and then being countered that the problem really arises out of western liberalism and unrelenting quest for progress, we get "pointing fingers doesn't change things."

I see. Check.

 

[Legato]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

You should just say "no, I understand NOTHING about climate science." That would be the truth.

Sorry, I don't repeat what other people say.

[robosmith]

32 minutes ago, Legato said:

Sorry, I don't repeat what other people say.

I know, you never tell the truth, just make up crap to TROLL

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

So after complaining about conservative 'anti-science' types and then being countered that the problem really arises out of western liberalism and unrelenting quest for progress, we get "pointing fingers doesn't change things."

I see. Check.

 

Anti science types for sure but where have I said "conservative"? You are the guys who insist on politicizing everything. Feeling guilty?

Edited December 18, 2023 by Aristides

[OftenWrong]

43 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You are the guys who insist on politicizing everything. Feeling guilty?

Sure we are. Not like you though, eh? Didn't mean to make you cry though fella. What a reaction.

I know you didn't say conservative, but I say that's what you wanted to say and what your problem really is. Why don't you just admit it? That makes life easier. Someone to blame, so you people don't have to look in the mirror.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Everyone can do something. Even you...

 

No. they can't.  Not even you. That's the point.

You can do nothing as things stand today. There is NOTHING you can do in any kind f practical way to reduce world wide emissions.

So you better stop lying to yourself and get serious. Unless the whole climate thing is just a game to you, and i'm beginning to wonder if it is for the left in general.

[Aristides]

59 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Sure we are. Not like you though, eh? Didn't mean to make you cry though fella. What a reaction.

I know you didn't say conservative, but I say that's what you wanted to say and what your problem really is. Why don't you just admit it? That makes life easier. Someone to blame, so you people don't have to look in the mirror.

 

No, there are lots of conservatives who believe in man made climate change.   You need to stop projecting yourself on others.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

Sure we are. Not like you though, eh? Didn't mean to make you cry though fella. What a reaction.

I know you didn't say conservative, but I say that's what you wanted to say and what your problem really is. Why don't you just admit it? That makes life easier. Someone to blame, so you people don't have to look in the mirror.

^"Why don't you just admit you meant what I think you meant?" LMAO

Talk about DESPERATE.