CdnFox Posted November 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Thing is...we bought into lots of promises, vague plans, rhetoric in 2015, 2019 and 2021 and here we are, more than willing to eat up more promises, vague plans and rhetoric all over agai n. Thing is - no you didn't. Trudeau had very specific plans, very specific promises, very detailed committments. FIrst 4 years he'd go over budget by 10 billion for the first three then back to balance. Last election ever with First past the post. An end to the housing unaffordability crisis. "Investments" in infrastructure that would pay for themselves in increased commerce. We will meet our paris committments which are specifically detailed. . etc etc etc. Nothing vague about it. And none of it happened. Your problem is you backed a Liar who had no intent of delivering on anything. And conservatives TOLD you what he was promising wasn't real. And what he WAS going to deliver on (carbon tax etc) would dramatically raise the price of everything. we told you that "prime minister" isn't an entry level job - and he just wasn't ready for the job yet. You didn't listen. Look what we've got. Now we'll put PP in place and we'll get some real work done. And you'll still be making excuses for justin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 I asked his supporters what he's going to do to improve things... and the answer was to stop talking about woke and stop the excess spending ? When I pointed out that we have major challenges afoot, I was accused of making excuses for Trudeau... 1 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: I asked his supporters what he's going to do to improve things... and the answer was to stop talking about woke and stop the excess spending ? When I pointed out that we have major challenges afoot, I was accused of making excuses for Trudeau... welcome to dealing with PP supporters they are about as bright as the trump ones down south lol Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Jack9000 said: welcome to dealing with PP supporters they are about as bright as the trump ones down south lol Well not exactly... The "good" old Tories still support him but we'll see... 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Well not exactly... The "good" old Tories still support him but we'll see... just toeing the line because they want power after this long in opp politicans sell there soul to the worse canidate all the time if it means they can be on the winnning side Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 13 hours ago, CdnFox said: Thing is - no you didn't. Trudeau had very specific plans, very specific promises, very detailed committments. FIrst 4 years he'd go over budget by 10 billion for the first three then back to balance. Last election ever with First past the post. An end to the housing unaffordability crisis. "Investments" in infrastructure that would pay for themselves in increased commerce. We will meet our paris committments which are specifically detailed. . etc etc etc. Nothing vague about it. And none of it happened. Your problem is you backed a Liar who had no intent of delivering on anything. And conservatives TOLD you what he was promising wasn't real. And what he WAS going to deliver on (carbon tax etc) would dramatically raise the price of everything. we told you that "prime minister" isn't an entry level job - and he just wasn't ready for the job yet. You didn't listen. Look what we've got. Now we'll put PP in place and we'll get some real work done. And you'll still be making excuses for justin I backed no one. Your imagination has tainted your memory. First term is always a party time.... Quote The truth does not require participation to exist. Bullshit does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 Hello all. @Jack9000 I see you think this site is full of rejects. Yet here y'are warbling away like some partisan hack. Pixie-Dust has exposed, for the whole world to see, his cowardly panicked response to challenges. He ran away to his mommy's home and called half of the population names. A real man, that Pixie-Dust. @ExFlyer youre a disgruntled voter...i can tell. Would you rather not cast a vote? @Michael Hardner yes we do have real challenges afoot. The economy has been ruined by over spending, stupid restrictions and taxes on energy, and a PM who embarrasses Canada repeatedly. But...he does have cute little sockies so...ya...there's that... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Hello all. @Jack9000 I see you think this site is full of rejects. Yet here y'are warbling away like some partisan hack. Pixie-Dust has exposed, for the whole world to see, his cowardly panicked response to challenges. He ran away to his mommy's home and called half of the population names. A real man, that Pixie-Dust. @ExFlyer youre a disgruntled voter...i can tell. Would you rather not cast a vote? @Michael Hardner yes we do have real challenges afoot. The economy has been ruined by over spending, stupid restrictions and taxes on energy, and a PM who embarrasses Canada repeatedly. But...he does have cute little sockies so...ya...there's that... Nope, not disgruntled at all but certainly disillusioned. Whether I cast a vote is really a voting day decision. I have almost always voted, just so I can complain. I hate vague promises. I want to know what my candidate is and what he will do. I want a professional telling me exactly what to expect, not a used car salesman making promises they don't have to or intend to keep. "I will make things better" is not a promise, it is closed empty box that you cannot see into. Quote The truth does not require participation to exist. Bullshit does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Nope, not disgruntled at all but certainly disillusioned. Whether I cast a vote is really a voting day decision. I have almost always voted, just so I can complain. I hate vague promises. I want to know what my candidate is and what he will do. I want a professional telling me exactly what to expect, not a used car salesman making promises they don't have to or intend to keep. "I will make things better" is not a promise, it is closed empty box that you cannot see into. Errr...https://globalnews.ca/news/9120550/pierre-poilievre-campaign-promises/ Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I backed no one. Many a Chud will call you a Trudeau lover if you dare to say he's not a Marxist Nazi... 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Many a Chud will call you a Trudeau lover if you dare to say he's not a Marxist Nazi... well I have voted liberal 2011 2015 2019 and ndp 2021 lol never conservative so they can attack me haha . although provincial election in 2024 might be first time i vote tory but thats only because the Pc party in NS seems half decent Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Errr...https://globalnews.ca/news/9120550/pierre-poilievre-campaign-promises/ Duh.... a paid political commercial Duh LOL 42 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Many a Chud will call you a Trudeau lover if you dare to say he's not a Marxist Nazi... WTF is a chud??? Quote The truth does not require participation to exist. Bullshit does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: well I have voted liberal 2011 2015 2019 and ndp 2021 lol never conservative so they can attack me haha . although provincial election in 2024 might be first time i vote tory but thats only because the Pc party in NS seems half decent Nobody on this side of the fence will "attack" you for being Liberal minded. We will attack you in return for being slighted first. Take for instance the term @Michael Hardner likes to use..."Chud". Now...most people here already know Mikey is a slave to the establishment. He'll suck down any old penis that smells like its part of the "establishment", and he'll call anyone who DARE question the bullshit we all see from Pixie-Dust as "Chuds". Now...you may think that I and some others on the right side, ask for the name calling by saying things like I just did. But I don't like being called a "Chud". I started a thread months ago to find out which side of the isle REALLY starts the name calling and guess what? It ain't us in the vast majority of cases. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Duh.... a paid political commercial Duh LOL WTF is a chud??? 1. I don't see this as "vague". I think its quite to the point actually. 2. CHUD - Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Duh.... a paid political commercial Duh LOL WTF is a chud??? A low-information tribalist who usually is new to politics and bases their opinions on who they oppose rather than policy. They have slowly been on the rise but when Trump won in 2016 they gained power. There are leftist and rightist Chuds both. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: A low-information tribealist who usually is new to politics and bases their opinions on who they oppose rather than policy. They have slowly been on the rise but when Trump won in 2016 they gained power. There are leftist and rightist Chuds both. Your self definition? Did you just make up some more facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 47 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Nobody on this side of the fence will "attack" you for being Liberal minded. We will attack you in return for being slighted first. Take for instance the term @Michael Hardner likes to use..."Chud". Now...most people here already know Mikey is a slave to the establishment. He'll suck down any old penis that smells like its part of the "establishment", and he'll call anyone who DARE question the bullshit we all see from Pixie-Dust as "Chuds". Now...you may think that I and some others on the right side, ask for the name calling by saying things like I just did. But I don't like being called a "Chud". I started a thread months ago to find out which side of the isle REALLY starts the name calling and guess what? It ain't us in the vast majority of cases. lol love how you right wingers act so tough on here you say half of what u do on this board to people in real life the majority of you would end up on your asses.. smh no respect at all. leave michael alone he is one of the only decent people on here Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: I hate vague promises. Thats politics 101. Vague and broad promises, that speak big, but do little to nothing. Trudeau makes big housing promises, but has little to go by as regards to actual substance in serving Canada for a very long time. "Stepping up" is exactly the talking big all politicians, even PP are notorious for. They just use different catch phrases. Same difference. What people love about PP, is even though he clearly is and sounds like a career politician, he clearly has far more competence, because he has had to earn his space. He doesn't have a name and handsome good looks that opens him doors. His respect was earned. 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: "I will make things better" "MAGA", "Build Back Better". "We will keep stepping up for Canadians". What's the difference? Other than one being elected but doing nothing but making things worse, and one wanting to be elected, and talking the same game everyone else has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: he is one of the only decent people on here My guess is you're the other one? Let me guess. Because you agree with him? You're that guy that parallel parks 2 inches from a bumper and two feet away from the curb, forcing trucks to swerve around you, then hold your nose at seeing someone cut across 4 lanes of traffic with no signal as being repugnant. Easy for your standard to be high, then you're the one setting it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: lol love how you right wingers act so tough on here you say half of what u do on this board to people in real life the majority of you would end up on your asses.. smh no respect at all. leave michael alone he is one of the only decent people on here Actually...I am rather tough. I was raised and taught to defend myself. Not hide under tables or behind meaningless words. And I doubt @Michael Hardner needs you to stand up for him...Jack. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: He'll suck down any old penis that smells like its part of the "establishment", Considering where that penis has been when you look at inflation and taxes, that's quite nasty. Thats a whole lot of bent over Canadians, and Hardner cleaning up the mess. Sorry for the visual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Considering where that penis has been when you look at inflation and taxes, that's quite nasty. Thats a whole lot of bent over Canadians, and Hardner cleaning up the mess. Sorry for the visual. Thanks for the HaHa. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: My guess is you're the other one? Let me guess. Because you agree with him? You're that guy that parallel parks 2 inches from a bumper and two feet away from the curb, forcing trucks to swerve around you, then hold your nose at seeing someone cut across 4 lanes of traffic with no signal as being repugnant. Easy for your standard to be high, then you're the one setting it. nah theres probs like 10 decent people on here actually.. and you're the guy who is a m0ron 22 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Actually...I am rather tough. I was raised and taught to defend myself. Not hide under tables or behind meaningless words. And I doubt @Michael Hardner needs you to stand up for him...Jack. lol tough I doubt that most keyboard warriors are far from tough. Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: nah theres probs like 10 decent people on here actually.. and you're the guy who is a m0ron lol tough I doubt that most keyboard warriors are far from tough. 1. So leave...Jack. 2. I'm not "most" people...Jack. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: nah theres probs like 10 decent people on here actually Again. Including you, right? 32 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: and you're the guy who is a m0ron Based on what. Your opinion? To roughly quote George Carlin: "Ever notice how everyone driving slower than you is a mor*n, and those driving faster are crazy?" Easy to question one's IQ based on disagreement. But to prove it in a thoroughly uncontested manner (or providing reasoning for it), sort of gives your statement more bite. Otherwise you come across as someone who just can't debate when facing push back and turn to insults and questioning the moral status of another to deflect from that fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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