Trump and allies plot revenge, Justice Department control in a second term

[Aristides]

On 12/1/2023 at 2:18 PM, taxme said:

He has only been indicted. But he will never face any jail time like so many conservatives that have been jailed. 

RINO means Republicans in name only and Trump hired on so many of those RINO;S, whom Trump thought were real Republicans, but Trump found out later that many of them were anti-Trump and anit-Republican. Traitors in other words to the Republican party. 

RINO'S will lie because they are a bunch of traitors to America. They are deep state supporters. 

Testifying against Trump meant that they were traitors to Trump, and they will pay for being traitors by Trump in the coming election. 

RINO'S and the Demonrats are all traitors to the American constitution. They both despise America. The rats. 

Sounds familiar. The party is now the leader. Hitler also required an oath to him personally and not to the nation or its constitution. You are a proper little brown shirt fascist wannabe.

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The Hitler Oath (German: Führereid or Führer Oath)—also referred in English as the Soldier's Oath[1]—refers to the oaths of allegiance sworn by the officers and soldiers of the German Armed Forces and civil servants of Nazi Germany between the years 1934 and 1945. The oath pledged personal loyalty to Adolf Hitler in place of loyalty to the constitution of the country. Historians view the personal oath of the Third Reich as an important psychological element to obey orders for committing war crimes, atrocities, and genocide.[2] During the Nuremberg trials, many German officers unsuccessfully attempted to use the oath as a defense against charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity.[3]

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Aristides

[-TSS-]

It's funny how Biden said yesterday that if Trump wasn't running Biden himself probably wouldn't seek re-election but since Trump is there Biden must also run.

As if it is Biden who can stop Trump when as in reality the main reason for Trump's newfound popularity is Biden himself. Almost any other democrat would be better equipped to beat Trump than Biden is.

 

[Nationalist]

28 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

It's funny how Biden said yesterday that if Trump wasn't running Biden himself probably wouldn't seek re-election but since Trump is there Biden must also run.

As if it is Biden who can stop Trump when as in reality the main reason for Trump's newfound popularity is Biden himself. Almost any other democrat would be better equipped to beat Trump than Biden is.

 

This might be true. We'll never find out though unless Biden drops dead all of the sudden. There's no other Democrats properly registered as candidates and time's up in most states.

[Nationalist]

14 hours ago, Aristides said:

Sounds familiar. The party is now the leader. Hitler also required an oath to him personally and not to the nation or its constitution. You are a proper little brown shirt fascist wannabe.

 

giggle...

Ya know the Libbies are all outta arguments when they have to fall back on Hitler.

Tell me sonny-boy...who is it trying to limit free speech?

"If you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black."

giggle...

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

giggle...

Ya know the Libbies are all outta arguments when they have to fall back on Hitler.

Tell me sonny-boy...who is it trying to limit free speech?

"If you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black."

giggle...

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck.

Pretty clear taxme wants a new Fuhrer where the army and civil service pledge loyalty to the great leader instead of a constitution or country. 

You too?  Your mindless admiration of Putin and other despots makes me wonder.

Give me a break, the Republican moral police is busy banning books, women's and gay rights and otherwise controlling personal behaviours.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Aristides

[-TSS-]

Does it actually make any difference in Canada whether Trump gets back in or not?

In Europe it may make a huge difference as Trump is known for his views that European NATO-countries should increase their defence-budgets instead of just relying on the US-help.

Even though on other issues I don't agree with Trump but on this one I do. In Finland we have a very competent army for a country of our size. If Russia decided to try its luck on attacking a western European country Finland wouldn't be their choice.

Many other European countries who don't have nasty neighbours have driven down their armies completely. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, -TSS- said:

Does it actually make any difference in Canada whether Trump gets back in or not?

 

It does - a lot of people hate trump and he's been cast as the evil personification of the 'radical right'.  Trudeau is already touching on that theme.  People will tend to lean more to a left wing govt in canada 'historically' to balance off a right wing gov't in the states as a general rule.

But that only goes so far.  And justin let trump push him around a lot. Recent polling indicates that canadians tend to think that PP would actually be better at dealing with trump.  So, the effect may not be as great as at other times in history.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck.

Pretty clear taxme wants a new Fuhrer where the army and civil service pledge loyalty to the great leader instead of a constitution or country. 

You too?  Your mindless admiration of Putin and other despots makes me wonder.

Give me a break, the Republican moral police is busy banning books, women's and gay rights and otherwise controlling personal behaviours.

I guess that makes you a quack?

I've seen some of the books being banned from elementary schools. Its cartoon porn.

[-TSS-]

Isn't senile just a rude word to call an old fool who forgets very basic things or doesn't know where he is etc when as dementia is a medical diagnosis? Biden has not been diagnosed as being demented but everybody can see he is senile.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, -TSS- said:

Isn't senile just a rude word to call an old fool who forgets very basic things or doesn't know where he is etc when as dementia is a medical diagnosis? Biden has not been diagnosed as being demented but everybody can see he is senile.

It's an interesting point - we don't often talk about the emotional charge some words have over others and it can have a huge impact, especially when news sources play the game.

It's not just that Dementia is a medical condition - it's that medical conditions elicit sympathy. We have empathy and sympathy for those who have a medical condition. Where as 'senile' has more of an image of a crazy old relative that everyone still loves but knows not to pay attention to and ignore. Dementia also suggests forgetfulness and an inability to focus, but senility is associated with saying any damn thing that comes to mind and that person should be ignored.

Interesting comparison of the two words

[taxme]

On 12/1/2023 at 3:24 PM, Hodad said:

So you think the lifelong Republicans are RINOs, and the newcomer carpetbagger who decided to run as a Republican is the "real" Republican? 

And all these people, who are intimately familiar with the administration and who spoke up about bad behavior, are traitors? But the one guy is right when he criticizes the large group of critics he once relied upon?

That makes sense to you? I guess at least you're consistently bumfuzzled. 

Are you going to call RINO's like Mitt Romney and Liz Chenny real Republicans? They are Demonrats in disguise. Those two spoke out against Trump because they are a part of the deep state. They are the ones with bad behavior. This is what makes sense to me, bumhumper. LOL.

[Hodad]

8 minutes ago, taxme said:

Are you going to call RINO's like Mitt Romney and Liz Chenny real Republicans? They are Demonrats in disguise. Those two spoke out against Trump because they are a part of the deep state. They are the ones with bad behavior. This is what makes sense to me, bumhumper. LOL.

This is how you know you've become an extremist. You think a lifelong Republicans are not Republicans. Romney was the a Republican presidential nominee, for farks sake. He was so Republican he was the de-facto leader of the party. Cheney was soundly conservative, in the image of her father. 

Trump, on the other hand, who isn't conservative in any way, woke up and called himself a Republican one day, and you adore him so much you think that whatever he is at a given moment (might change on a windy day) defines what Republicanism is. 

Romney and Cheney didn't suddenly become Democrats just because they rightly called out Trump's bad behavior. Their values are the same as they always were. Their policy positions didn't change. It's called having principles.

Most prominent Republicans don't actually like Trump. When he ran in 2015 they correctly identified that he was completely unfit for office. The Republican voters disagreed and, once he had the nomination, most of his critics fell in line and started licking his boots. But on serious matters like the egregious abuse of power and the insurrection, a small subset of Republicans still held true to their principles and their oaths of loyalty to country and constitution. 

You're an buffoon if you think people like Romney, Cheney and Pence are magically transformed into Democrats just because they stood up to Trump.

 

 

[robosmith]

On 12/6/2023 at 6:14 AM, Nationalist said:

giggle...

Ya know the Libbies are all outta arguments when they have to fall back on Hitler.

Tell me sonny-boy...who is it trying to limit free speech?

"If you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black."

giggle...

By your giggling, I can see that you understand that Joe's "ain't black" was facetious.

That's why he had a big smile on his face when he said it.

You should learn to take cues from body language.

[robosmith]

On 12/6/2023 at 8:18 AM, -TSS- said:

Does it actually make any difference in Canada whether Trump gets back in or not?

 

Yeah, it probably does cause last time Trump slapped tariffs on Canadian exports.

[taxme]

On 12/1/2023 at 4:29 PM, robosmith said:

You said ONLY conservatives have been charged. Hunter PROVES YOU were WRONG.

LMAO. Trump changed the definition to SUPPORTING HIM and you BOUGHT IT. ?

They support the CONSTITUTION.

Loyalty to the CONSTITUTION DEMANDS testifying against Trump's CRIMES. 

You MAGA CULT types have been thoroughly CONNED.

 

Hunter is indicted but he will not spend one night or day in Jail. His corrupt daddy will give Hunter a pardon asap so he will not have to spend time in jail. The timing of the indictment works out well for Hunter. His daddy is the president. 

You are the one that is buying up everything that the corrupt BiDumb regime is feeding you. You watch way too much CNN. Try getting the other side of the story for a change about Hunter and daddy by listening to FOX NEWS.  ?

RINO's do not have any loyalty or support for the Constitution. They are trying to destroy the Constitution. RINO;s like to pretend that they are constitutional supporters when it suits their corrupt needs and agendas. 

MAGA people have not be conned into anything at all. MAGA people do support the Constitution. It is the stupid leftist liberals like you that are being conned every day by the leftist liberal cult lies and bullshit. Get with the phkn program, will you, lefty. ?

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, -TSS- said:

Isn't senile just a rude word to call an old fool who forgets very basic things or doesn't know where he is etc when as dementia is a medical diagnosis? Biden has not been diagnosed as being demented but everybody can see he is senile.

It's called Mild Cognitive Impairment. Dementia is when you can't find your way home after going for a walk in your neighborhood (when you used to be able).

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

Hunter is indicted but he will not spend one night or day in Jail. His corrupt daddy will give Hunter a pardon asap so he will not have to spend time in jail. The timing of the indictment works out well for Hunter. His daddy is the president. 

^This speculation proves a lot. Not.

1 minute ago, taxme said:

You are the one that is buying up everything that the corrupt BiDumb regime is feeding you. You watch way too much CNN. Try getting the other side of the story for a change about Hunter and daddy by listening to FOX NEWS. 

I only sometimes watch State of the Union, but never more than ~5 min.

There is NO MORE "Fox News" (if there ever was). Since they are proven liars to the tune of $800M penalty, they are now FOS LIES.

1 minute ago, taxme said:

RINO's do not have any loyalty or support for the Constitution.

I agree. They've been redefined by Trump to be those who support HIM. And he's stated he wants to terminate the Constitution. ?

1 minute ago, taxme said:

 

They are trying to destroy the Constitution. RINO;s like to pretend that they are constitutional supporters when it suits their corrupt needs and agendas.

Trump has outright stated he wants to "terminate the Constitution." FOS LIES didn't tell you about that?

Trump's Call for 'Termination' of Constitution Draws Rebukes

1 minute ago, taxme said:

MAGA people have not be conned into anything at all. MAGA people do support the Constitution. It is the stupid leftist liberals like you that are being conned every day by the leftist liberal cult lies and bullshit. Get with the phkn program, will you, lefty. ?

You're wrong,. See above.

[taxme]

On 12/5/2023 at 4:10 PM, Aristides said:

Sounds familiar. The party is now the leader. Hitler also required an oath to him personally and not to the nation or its constitution. You are a proper little brown shirt fascist wannabe.

 

Another nonsense wannabee Aristotle reply. Just for your information, every leader of every political party demands loyalty from it's party members. Geez, how dumb are you? I will have you know right now that i do not have one brown shirt in my closet. But i have plenty of red shirts though. Personally, i believe that you are a Marxist. Just saying. ?

 

On 12/5/2023 at 4:10 PM, Aristides said:

Sounds familiar. The party is now the leader. Hitler also required an oath to him personally and not to the nation or its constitution. You are a proper little brown shirt fascist wannabe.

 

 

[taxme]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

This is how you know you've become an extremist. You think a lifelong Republicans are not Republicans. Romney was the a Republican presidential nominee, for farks sake. He was so Republican he was the de-facto leader of the party. Cheney was soundly conservative, in the image of her father. 

Trump, on the other hand, who isn't conservative in any way, woke up and called himself a Republican one day, and you adore him so much you think that whatever he is at a given moment (might change on a windy day) defines what Republicanism is. 

Romney and Cheney didn't suddenly become Democrats just because they rightly called out Trump's bad behavior. Their values are the same as they always were. Their policy positions didn't change. It's called having principles.

Most prominent Republicans don't actually like Trump. When he ran in 2015 they correctly identified that he was completely unfit for office. The Republican voters disagreed and, once he had the nomination, most of his critics fell in line and started licking his boots. But on serious matters like the egregious abuse of power and the insurrection, a small subset of Republicans still held true to their principles and their oaths of loyalty to country and constitution. 

You're an buffoon if you think people like Romney, Cheney and Pence are magically transformed into Democrats just because they stood up to Trump.

 

 

The MAGA voters saw thru the fact that Romney, Cheney and Pence were not real and true Republicans at all. Just a bunch of deep state supporting RINO's. The supporters saw nothing wrong with Trump and they voted for Trump. After all, America was in good shape after Trump took office. But ever since BiDumb took power, America has gone for a shit. Open borders, high gas prices, inflation and involved with two wars. Get lost with your anti-Trump bullshit. ? 

[taxme]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

^This speculation proves a lot. Not.

I only sometimes watch State of the Union, but never more than ~5 min.

There is NO MORE "Fox News" (if there ever was). Since they are proven liars to the tune of $800M penalty, they are now FOS LIES.

I agree. They've been redefined by Trump to be those who support HIM. And he's stated he wants to terminate the Constitution. ?

Trump has outright stated he wants to "terminate the Constitution." FOS LIES didn't tell you about that?

Trump's Call for 'Termination' of Constitution Draws Rebukes

You're wrong,. See above.

But it's true. Hunter will never face jail time. You should know that? 

I do not even watch any state of the union speeches unless Trump is speaking. 

CNN has been found out to have lied many times and have gotten away with their lies and bullshit way too much. 

Bullshit. Where has Trump ever said that he wants to terminate the Constitution? Show me those words, if you can? 

 

[Hodad]

16 minutes ago, taxme said:

The MAGA voters saw thru the fact that Romney, Cheney and Pence were not real and true Republicans at all. Just a bunch of deep state supporting RINO's. The supporters saw nothing wrong with Trump and they voted for Trump. After all, America was in good shape after Trump took office. But ever since BiDumb took power, America has gone for a shit. Open borders, high gas prices, inflation and involved with two wars. Get lost with your anti-Trump bullshit. ? 

Tell me, which of their policy positions were not aligned with the last Republican party platform. Which of Pence's positions were not "Republican"?

I'll wait. 

 

Probably forever. Because I think you don't have any clue in the slightest what the platform is or what the policy positions were of the named individuals. All you know about them is that they thought Trump had behaved badly. The only thing Pence did to offend was to do his constitutional duty when Trump pressured him to break the law. Other than that one (critical) moment of courage, he was a boot-licking enabler of Trump's epic misbehavior.

Republicanism should not--cannot--be defined by allegiance to one person. At that point it ceases to be a party and becomes a cult. 

There's a difference between being a person with beliefs and principles, and a googly-eyed fanboy. You, sir, are the latter.

Edited December 8, 2023 by Hodad

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Another nonsense wannabee Aristotle reply. Just for your information, every leader of every political party demands loyalty from it's party members. Geez, how dumb are you? I will have you know right now that i do not have one brown shirt in my closet. But i have plenty of red shirts though. Personally, i believe that you are a Marxist. Just saying. ?

 

 

You call anyone who sticks up for the country and its constitution a traitor to Trump personally. No leader has the right to demand loyalty to them before the nation or the constitution. They do not swear allegiance to a leader but it seems you think they should. 

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

By your giggling, I can see that you understand that Joe's "ain't black" was facetious.

That's why he had a big smile on his face when he said it.

You should learn to take cues from body language.

Lol...ya...sure...

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...ya...sure...

And look at Trump's face (on video) when he demanded Russia find Hillary's emails. That was a scowl not a smile.

AKA, he wasn't joking, as he CONFIRMED after a follow up question.

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And look at Trump's face (on video) when he demanded Russia find Hillary's emails. That was a scowl not a smile.

AKA, he wasn't joking, as he CONFIRMED after a follow up question.

I'm sure that's how it looked in your mind.  Everyone who's sane recognized it as being a jab at hillary designed to mock her but also to make her uncomfortable (i mean - they just MIGHT have more on her ) 

Only die hard nutjobs actually believe he was calling on russia to do something illegal with any expectation they would.