Nationalist Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 4 hours ago, robosmith said: In reality I got a raise in my SS benefits due to 8% COL adjustment last year. Of course my SS check more than covers all my living expenses here in San Diego, so I bank my pensions and interest income. How nice...that you're only paying as much as your increase....wait... In your own immemorable words... Duh... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 9 hours ago, robosmith said: Stop TROLLING. Why, I just caught a large sucker fish. 1 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Rebound said: I do not know what due diligence the lenders engaged in, but I don’t think it is relevant to whether or not Trump committed fraud. The court has already ruled that he committed fraud. Uh huh... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said: Oh no, it WAS confirmed...Forbes measured it and sent Donald a letter, they produced it as Evidence...it stated it was not 30,000 sq feet, it was 11, 996 sq ft. The fact that Trump ignored the letter and he and his son Eric continued to use Donald Trump's figures instead in these bank loans and real estate valuations he used to obtain money is what the Court is speaking about. Groovy. And the victim is? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Caswell Thomas said: So if you are thinking of getting Trump off I'm pretty sure they're always thinking of getting Trump off. It's total dedication. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: How nice...that you're only paying as much as your increase....wait... In your own immemorable words... Duh... Yes it is nice to have all my expenses covered in retirement so I don't have to dip into my half a $mil of savings. 1 hour ago, Legato said: Why, I just caught a large sucker fish. You caught nothing; ^this is just your fantasy. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 57 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Groovy. And the victim is? No victim is required to prosecute fraud in NYS. You're going to have to double your effort in Trump's defense. ? Quote
CdnFox Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Hodad said: I'm pretty sure they're always thinking of getting Trump off. It's total dedication. Yeah - lots of people are funny about wanting actual facts and proof and such There's a few legit charges out there he's going to have to answer for but 99 percent of this crap is just witchhunging and bullshit, and this case is a good example. But those of you who pray on your knees for his incarceration knowing that's probably the only thing that would prevent him from winning the next election are always so desperate that you pee a little every time a prosecutor or dem cobbles together even the crappiest of cases. Hope you aren't going to belly ache when the shoe's on the other food 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yeah - lots of people are funny about wanting actual facts and proof and such There's a few legit charges out there he's going to have to answer for but 99 percent of this crap is just witchhunging and bullshit, and this case is a good example. But those of you who pray on your knees for his incarceration knowing that's probably the only thing that would prevent him from winning the next election are always so desperate that you pee a little every time a prosecutor or dem cobbles together even the crappiest of cases. Hope you aren't going to belly ache when the shoe's on the other food Don't drive after drinking too much tonight. I also recommend you keep you shoes off your food. ? Quote
CdnFox Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, robosmith said: Don't drive after drinking too much tonight. I also recommend you keep you shoes off your food. ? lol Sure kid I recommend you keep the cap on the cough syrup Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Rebound Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 7 hours ago, CdnFox said: Yeah - lots of people are funny about wanting actual facts and proof and such There's a few legit charges out there he's going to have to answer for but 99 percent of this crap is just witchhunging and bullshit, and this case is a good example. But those of you who pray on your knees for his incarceration knowing that's probably the only thing that would prevent him from winning the next election are always so desperate that you pee a little every time a prosecutor or dem cobbles together even the crappiest of cases. Hope you aren't going to belly ache when the shoe's on the other food Donald Trump is going to prison. You admit yourself that he’s broken the law. 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Nationalist Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said: In financial fraud (quoting the Criminal Law statutes) involving over a million dollars, and those crimes involving RICO violations, the statute of limitations is ten years. So if you are thinking of getting Trump off ...he'll never make it, various former con conspirators already diving off his sinking yacht at every opportunity. If you were smart, and sent any donations to Trump that you suspect didn't go to his presidential campaign but instead were used for his personal expenses, now would be the time to file a complaint to get your money back...while he still has any...there is already a move in the Court to appoint the Receiver to dissolve his assets, companies, properties, bank accounts, and any items of significant value purchased with said funds... You have a box of broken eggs and you're counting chickens. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rebound said: Donald Trump is going to prison. You admit yourself that he’s broken the law. Can you smelll... The desperation. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, robosmith said: No victim is required to prosecute fraud in NYS. You're going to have to double your effort in Trump's defense. ? Trump doesn't need my defence. But Biden is gonna find a way to get your supposed half mil. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Rebound Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Can you smelll... The desperation. Yeah… in Trump’s desperate filings to delay, delay, delay. Last week he filed a motion claiming that he has “absolute immunity from all criminal prosecution.” He literally believes that he is allowed to break any law he wants. That’s gonna get swatted down real fast. Dude sure wastes a lot of money out of his desperation, cause he has no actual defense to the crimes he committed. His fraud was so bad, the judge convicted him without a trial! Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, Rebound said: Donald Trump is going to prison. You admit yourself that he’s broken the law. Well amusingly the courts don't imprison people strictly based on whether or not I think they may have broken a law LOLOL But i do appreciate your faith in me as the final arbiter of what is and isn't lawful In any case however i didn't actually say he's broken the law. And this is why nobody has any respect for your side, when the truth doesn't suit you then you just make shit up. What i did say and will repeat is that off the plethora of charges leveled against trump there are one or two serious ones that he's going to have to answer for. He's going to have to stand up in a court and explain himself and they are serious and legitimate charges. And if he cannot defend his actions he may face serious consequences But THIS kind of charge is just pure bullshit. This is people who don't like trump attempting to use the legal system to unreasonably persecute him. And that is OBVIOUS. And that's precisely the kind of crap that causes his followers to believe stories about how people who don't like him are illegally trying to cheat during the elections, or why they don't believe any of the more legit charges. And why they're furious that biden isn't treated the same way. The dems bring this upon themselves. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rebound said: His fraud was so bad, the judge convicted him without a trial! And you're ok with that. As has been noted...many times...you Tweenkies are down right dangerous. Law...order...constitution...all just concepts that can and should be ignored...if it aids in your Tweenkie desires and feeds your raw hatred. Meh...at least I'm sure Hillary-Billary would appreciate your anti-democracy position... Edited October 13, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Rebound Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well amusingly the courts don't imprison people strictly based on whether or not I think they may have broken a law LOLOL But i do appreciate your faith in me as the final arbiter of what is and isn't lawful In any case however i didn't actually say he's broken the law. And this is why nobody has any respect for your side, when the truth doesn't suit you then you just make shit up. What i did say and will repeat is that off the plethora of charges leveled against trump there are one or two serious ones that he's going to have to answer for. He's going to have to stand up in a court and explain himself and they are serious and legitimate charges. And if he cannot defend his actions he may face serious consequences But THIS kind of charge is just pure bullshit. This is people who don't like trump attempting to use the legal system to unreasonably persecute him. And that is OBVIOUS. And that's precisely the kind of crap that causes his followers to believe stories about how people who don't like him are illegally trying to cheat during the elections, or why they don't believe any of the more legit charges. And why they're furious that biden isn't treated the same way. The dems bring this upon themselves. You admitted, “there’s a few legit charges out there.” Yeah, yeah, innocent until proven guilty. But you saw the mountain of classified documents sitting in his bathroom, and now we know he deliberately tried to hide them from a subpoena. I don’t know why Judge Cannon in Florida is dragging her feet so much but those are clearly jailable. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, Rebound said: Yeah… in Trump’s desperate filings to delay, delay, delay. No, he's right. It's your side that smells desperate. Quote Last week he filed a motion claiming that he has “absolute immunity from all criminal prosecution.” He literally believes that he is allowed to break any law he wants. ROFLMAO - no. No he did not. And statements like that are why you sound desperate. He filed a motion that very specific charges fall within the 'outer perimeter' of his presidential duties - and in such cases they can't be prosecuted. And that is true -sort of. That's absolutely the case for civil prosecutions. That's an old law. He's trying to apply that to criminal prosecutions and that's going to be a challenge But it is completely !diotic and a lie on your part in the extreme to say he's filed a claim that he is immunity from all criminal prosecution. That is a lie So if you have truth on your side - why do you feel the need to lie? if you're not desperate why won't the truth do? You prove your desperation from your own statements. You have to lie to make your case. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Rebound Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, Nationalist said: And you're ok with that. As has been noted...many times...you Tweenkies are down right dangerous. Law...order...constitution...all just concepts that can and should be ignored...if it aids in your Tweenkie desires and feeds your raw hatred. Meh...at least I'm sure Hillary-Billary would appreciate your anti-democracy position... That judge is operating well within the scope of the law. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, Rebound said: You admitted, “there’s a few legit charges out there.” The charges are legit. They're real charges for real crimes with enough evidence to justify laying the charges. (unlike this case) That does NOT mean he's guilty, or that he will be found guilty or that he will go to jail. LOTS of people who are charged with crimes wind up not being found guilty. The evidence still needs to be tested in court. the lawyers still have to present arguments as to why the law was or was not offended. But the charges are at least real charges, not this faked up bullshit. Man i sure spend a lot of time having to explain to you and robodope how law works. Just because a charge is a legitmate charge doesn't mean they'll be found guilty. If it did - we wouldn't need to have trials, we could just charge people and then lock them up Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Rebound said: That judge is operating well within the scope of the law. We will see on appeal...but I have a feeling the putz knows what he did will be shot down. His actions may also call into question his ability to sit on the bench. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Rebound Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No, he's right. It's your side that smells desperate. ROFLMAO - no. No he did not. And statements like that are why you sound desperate. He filed a motion that very specific charges fall within the 'outer perimeter' of his presidential duties - and in such cases they can't be prosecuted. And that is true -sort of. That's absolutely the case for civil prosecutions. That's an old law. He's trying to apply that to criminal prosecutions and that's going to be a challenge But it is completely !diotic and a lie on your part in the extreme to say he's filed a claim that he is immunity from all criminal prosecution. That is a lie So if you have truth on your side - why do you feel the need to lie? if you're not desperate why won't the truth do? You prove your desperation from your own statements. You have to lie to make your case. Let me quote to you from Trump’s filing: “Here, 234 years of unbroken historical practice — from 1789 until 2023 — provide compelling evidence that the power to indict a former president for his official acts does not exist,” Mr. Lauro wrote. “No prosecutor, whether state, local or federal, has this authority; and none has sought to exercise it until now.” The thing is, a President does need to have immunity from many lawsuits. Otherwise, he could be charged for any crime committed by any Federal official, or for acts committed by the military during military actions, such as drone strikes. But that clearly does not mean the President can break any law he wishes. Edited October 13, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rebound said: Let me quote to you from Trump’s filing: “Here, 234 years of unbroken historical practice — from 1789 until 2023 — provide compelling evidence that the power to indict a former president for his official acts does not exist,” Mr. Lauro wrote. “No prosecutor, whether state, local or federal, has this authority; and none has sought to exercise it until now.” So you admit that you lied. He didn't file saying he's immune to all criminal acts. He's saying that he can't be charged in connection with official presidential duties. And in fact as i stated there is some precedent for that - for SURE with regards to civil actions and we'll see if it holds with criminal cases as well. But no - he did not claim to be immune to all crimes. So - simple question. If you believe the truth is bad for trump - why did you feel the need to lie? You lie ALL the time. You don't seem to feel the truth is good enough to prove your point. Why is that? I think you really need to answer that question Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Rebound Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: So you admit that you lied. He didn't file saying he's immune to all criminal acts. He's saying that he can't be charged in connection with official presidential duties. And in fact as i stated there is some precedent for that - for SURE with regards to civil actions and we'll see if it holds with criminal cases as well. But no - he did not claim to be immune to all crimes. So - simple question. If you believe the truth is bad for trump - why did you feel the need to lie? You lie ALL the time. You don't seem to feel the truth is good enough to prove your point. Why is that? I think you really need to answer that question No. Trump himself made the claim of “absolute immunity” on a post he made on Truth Social. It has been widely reported: ”Until recently the political Hacks and Thugs of the highly partisan January 6th Unselect Committee were seldom talking about your favorite President, me, as it related to the PROTEST on Election Fraud," Trump wrote. "NUMBER ONE, as President, I have total Immunity. Number two, I did nothing wrong. “ https://www.newsweek.com/trump-immunity-jan6-prosecution-charges-1769713 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
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