robosmith Posted October 12, 2023 Report Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Jeebus, what about that post makes you think voter impersonation is remotely plausible as a concern to election integrity? It's not. It's been researched exhaustively. Same people aren't risking prison to cast a single vote. Or maybe your cultish zealotry is so strong, that it makes sense to you? Some people don't understand that it takes thousands of fraudulent voters to swing an election, and any time thousands of people are in on a secret, that's almost a guarantee it won't remain secret. They also don't understand how easy it is to get fake IDs and how hard it is to get a list of voters who won't vote in a particular election (so they can vote fraudulently). Attempted double voting is a huge red flag to poll workers which voter fraudsters certainly want to avoid. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 12, 2023 Report Posted October 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Hodad said: Jeebus, what about that post makes you think voter impersonation is remotely plausible as a concern to election integrity? It's not. It's been researched exhaustively. Same people aren't risking prison to cast a single vote. Or maybe your cultish zealotry is so strong, that it makes sense to you? https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud These numbers in this link should be zero. They are not. These are the known cases. Obviously there were more not caught. What happened in 2020 made a joke of the election. Mailing ballots out to everyone and expecting...presumably...a fair election was an act of either stupidity or outright criminality. https://www.newsweek.com/how-mail-voting-became-democratic-electoral-strategy-opinion-1637676 So ya...I believe Joe Biden is POTUS as a result of voter fraud and general cheating. So does a significant percent of the public. They used The Rona and numerous other antics to guarantee a Biden win. Biden will never be thought of as a "good" POTUS. Nor will he ever be thought of as "the elected" POTUS. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Rebound Posted October 12, 2023 Author Report Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, robosmith said: Well, it appears that war is not over yet because Hamas refuses to acknowledge that loss. So if you are the leader of a nation, and another nation or entity declares war on you, what is the response? Provide them electricity? Provide medical care for them? Open your border and let them come and go into your country as they please? Edited October 12, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Rebound Posted October 12, 2023 Author Report Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Billboards in Tel Aviv today: Edited October 12, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Hodad Posted October 12, 2023 Report Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud These numbers in this link should be zero. They are not. These are the known cases. Obviously there were more not caught. What happened in 2020 made a joke of the election. Mailing ballots out to everyone and expecting...presumably...a fair election was an act of either stupidity or outright criminality. https://www.newsweek.com/how-mail-voting-became-democratic-electoral-strategy-opinion-1637676 So ya...I believe Joe Biden is POTUS as a result of voter fraud and general cheating. So does a significant percent of the public. They used The Rona and numerous other antics to guarantee a Biden win. Biden will never be thought of as a "good" POTUS. Nor will he ever be thought of as "the elected" POTUS. Dude, check your own cite. In a nation of 300+ million people, the Heritage Foundation was only able to find 25 documented cases of voter impersonation over the last 20 years. Lol. My goodness, 10x+ that number of children have been murdered in schools over that same period. I guess if Republicans cared even 10% as much about the life of a child as they pretend to care about a single vote, they could manage to recognize gun violence as a problem and we could pass laws to address it. GTFO of here with this joke of "a serious problem we need a new laws to solve!" And take your lame conspiracy theories with you. Edited October 12, 2023 by Hodad Quote
Rebound Posted October 12, 2023 Author Report Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud These numbers in this link should be zero. They are not. These are the known cases. Obviously there were more not caught. What happened in 2020 made a joke of the election. Mailing ballots out to everyone and expecting...presumably...a fair election was an act of either stupidity or outright criminality. https://www.newsweek.com/how-mail-voting-became-democratic-electoral-strategy-opinion-1637676 So ya...I believe Joe Biden is POTUS as a result of voter fraud and general cheating. So does a significant percent of the public. They used The Rona and numerous other antics to guarantee a Biden win. Biden will never be thought of as a "good" POTUS. Nor will he ever be thought of as "the elected" POTUS. To be clear, election fraud is a big concern to both Democrats and Republicans, because it is a two-sided blade. It can harm Democrats as easily as Republicans, AND it can harm primary contests. But I looked at Heritage’s site, and to be honest, there’s no evidence of substantial fraud. They say they have 1,453 proven instances of fraud, spread over many election years, state, local and federal. While every one is definitely bad… that is far from enough to swing a Presidential election. Many instances, for instance, are from paid referendum signature collectors. You put a guy in a shopping mall parking lot and pay him $5 for every signature he collects… and the result is the guy tosses in 20 fake signatures and collects an extra $100. I think this is a problem, for sure, but it’s not an election and it definitely won’t change a Presidential election. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted October 12, 2023 Report Posted October 12, 2023 9 hours ago, robosmith said: Well, it appears that war is not over yet because Hamas refuses to acknowledge that loss. It is over. THis is a new conflict. The problem last time is that isreal let some of the enemy live to cause new trouble down the road. Best not make that mistake again. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted October 12, 2023 Report Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Dude, check your own cite. In a nation of 300+ million people, the Heritage Foundation was only able to find 25 documented cases of voter impersonation over the last 20 years. Lol. My goodness, 10x+ that number of children have been murdered in schools over that same period. I guess if Republicans cared even 10% as much about the life of a child as they pretend to care about a single vote, they could manage to recognize gun violence as a problem and we could pass laws to address it. GTFO of here with this joke of "a serious problem we need a new laws to solve!" And take your lame conspiracy theories with you. OK understood. You're OK with cheating. 1 hour ago, Rebound said: To be clear, election fraud is a big concern to both Democrats and Republicans, because it is a two-sided blade. It can harm Democrats as easily as Republicans, AND it can harm primary contests. But I looked at Heritage’s site, and to be honest, there’s no evidence of substantial fraud. They say they have 1,453 proven instances of fraud, spread over many election years, state, local and federal. While every one is definitely bad… that is far from enough to swing a Presidential election. Many instances, for instance, are from paid referendum signature collectors. You put a guy in a shopping mall parking lot and pay him $5 for every signature he collects… and the result is the guy tosses in 20 fake signatures and collects an extra $100. I think this is a problem, for sure, but it’s not an election and it definitely won’t change a Presidential election. So you're OK with voter fraud too. Understood. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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