August1991 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) As a foreigner, I have been thinking about this. The federal Republicans are on the wrong side of two central issues: -abortion -debt reduction ===== You Americans have a pay-as-you-go federal pension scheme - far more generous than my RRQ. Your Medicare works better than OHIP. And you have a military. Paul Krugman described the US federal government as a tank with a pension and health plan. Edited October 7, 2023 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted October 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 On the political side, every indication is that Republicans will lose. -in local elections, Republicans only win when they gerrymander -California and New York are now solidly blue -Florida is the one exception - but when DeSantis spoke about abortion, that killed his chances -even Trump did not win a majority -Republicans cannot "get out the vote" when there is ballot harvesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 Republicans lost badly in 2020 because of vote by mail and dropboxes eliminating long lines in the "wrong" districts which was their goto for voter suppression. AKA black districts. Since their claims of voter fraud via mail and drop boxes FAILED to suppress the vote, they are busy prohibiting those methods of getting around their preferred voter suppression methods. It remains to be seen whether they will succeed in re-implementing the voter suppression methods they have counted on for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 1:38 AM, robosmith said: Republicans lost badly in 2020 because of vote by mail and dropboxes eliminating long lines in the "wrong" districts which was their goto for voter suppression. AKA black districts. ... Point made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 The future of America is Democratic primaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, August1991 said: The future of America is Democratic primaries. Presidential elections are often elections about change. People will vote for Biden, or they will vote for change. And I think if you ask American voters, “Can our government do better?” 100% will answer Yes. So the voters will decide whether the Republican person will change things for the better, or for worse. This is why I think the Democrats should nominate someone else: Because doing so offers change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 12:09 AM, August1991 said: As a foreigner, I have been thinking about this. The federal Republicans are on the wrong side of two central issues: -abortion -debt reduction ===== You Americans have a pay-as-you-go federal pension scheme - far more generous than my RRQ. Your Medicare works better than OHIP. And you have a military. Paul Krugman described the US federal government as a tank with a pension and health plan. Excuse me? Democrats (and that unelected pedophile) are the WORST thing that has happened to this country. Trump is going to be elected President in another landslide, since he is polling over ten points ahead of unelected Joe in all polls. If The Republicans can stop shooting themselves in the foot, they'll hold both houses of Congress. Debt Reduction? The spending comes from the DEMOCRATS. It's THEIR FAULt. Abortion? A bad law was overturned by the Supreme Court. The fact that Congress has not passed a pro baby killing law by now shows that MOST OF THE COUNTRY IS AGAINST BABY KILLING ON DEMAND. It would appear most of America agrees with the Republicans on this. Now if the Republicans can just get their heads out of their asses.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 1:38 AM, robosmith said: Republicans lost badly in 2020 because of vote by mail and dropboxes eliminating long lines in the "wrong" districts which was their goto for voter suppression. AKA black districts. Since their claims of voter fraud via mail and drop boxes FAILED to suppress the vote, they are busy prohibiting those methods of getting around their preferred voter suppression methods. It remains to be seen whether they will succeed in re-implementing the voter suppression methods they have counted on for decades. Republicans lost because of VOTER FRAUD. Just remember.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, reason10 said: Republicans lost because of VOTER FRAUD. When you have NO EVIDENCE of FRAUD, all you have is the CERTIFIED VOTE COUNT. 3 minutes ago, reason10 said: Just remember....I am a LIAR ftfy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/6/2023 at 10:09 PM, August1991 said: As a foreigner, I have been thinking about this. The federal Republicans are on the wrong side of two central issues: -abortion -debt reduction ===== You Americans have a pay-as-you-go federal pension scheme - far more generous than my RRQ. Your Medicare works better than OHIP. And you have a military. Paul Krugman described the US federal government as a tank with a pension and health plan. Legalized abortion and government subsidized condoms are all the the Left really cares about. Of course the Right is on the right side of the abortion debate. There's no such thing as debt reduction in this country, and debt will certainly contribute to our downfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 19 hours ago, Deluge said: Legalized abortion and government subsidized condoms are all the the Left really cares about. Of course the Right is on the right side of the abortion debate. There's no such thing as debt reduction in this country, and debt will certainly contribute to our downfall. It you could add 2+2, you would know what debt reduction is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Rebound said: It you could add 2+2, you would know what debt reduction is. If you could understand this, you'd know we're f*cked. https://www.usdebtclock.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deluge said: If you could understand this, you'd know we're f*cked. https://www.usdebtclock.org/ If you could read, you’d know that Republican Presidents racked up trillions more debt than Democrat Presidents. A full 25% of America’s total debt was racked up during the four years of Donald Trump. Economic genius my ass! Edited October 10, 2023 by Rebound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 12:09 AM, August1991 said: As a foreigner, I have been thinking about this. The federal Republicans are on the wrong side of two central issues: -abortion -debt reduction ===== You Americans have a pay-as-you-go federal pension scheme - far more generous than my RRQ. Your Medicare works better than OHIP. And you have a military. Paul Krugman described the US federal government as a tank with a pension and health plan. Huh... If you think the Democrats can win on the abortion issue, you're dreaming in technicolor. As for debt reduction...that's actually laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Huh... If you think the Democrats can win on the abortion issue, you're dreaming in technicolor. As for debt reduction...that's actually laughable. Huh.... no REASON to believe ^these OPINIONS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Rebound said: If you could read, you’d know that Republican Presidents racked up trillions more debt than Democrat Presidents. A full 25% of America’s total debt was racked up during the four years of Donald Trump. Economic genius my ass! Sorry, numbnuts, but democrats are total shit both economically and morally. Neutralize the communists (democrat party) and the Republicans won't have to overexert to get the country back on track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, robosmith said: Huh.... no REASON to believe ^these OPINIONS. That's your belief - but as youv'e said your belief is worth nothing. His opinion therefore still holds more weight than your belief. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Rebound said: If you could read, you’d know that Republican Presidents racked up trillions more debt than Democrat Presidents. A full 25% of America’s total debt was racked up during the four years of Donald Trump. Economic genius my ass! Oooo - no, sorry - @Deluge was correct and you were wrong. Biden is the top debt scorer, and his term isn't over yet, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-debt-up-5-trillion-under-biden/ar-AA1fX225 When President Barack Obama was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2009, the federal debt was $10,626,877,048,913.08, according to the Treasury. By August 25, 2011, it had climbed to $14,653,547,886,356.11—an increase of $4,026,670,837,443.03. When President Donald Trump was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2017, the total federal debt stood at $19,947,304,555,212.49, according to the numbers published by the U.S. Treasury. By Aug. 25, 2019, it had climbed to $22,430,807,789,262.13—an increase of $2,483,503,234,049.64. On Aug. 23, the debt declined modestly to $32,740,372,767,613.62, which brought the Biden-era increase back below the $5-trillion threshold (to $4,988,476,531,198.85). But then on Aug 24, it climbed again to $32,777,879,728,405.51; and on Aug. 25, it climbed to $32,810,223,546,146.86. That is an increase of $5,058,327,309,732.09 from the day Biden was inaugurated. Sorry - biden is the worst - Obama was number 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Rebound said: If you could read, you’d know that Republican Presidents racked up trillions more debt than Democrat Presidents. A full 25% of America’s total debt was racked up during the four years of Donald Trump. Economic genius my ass! My point. Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue. 10 hours ago, Nationalist said: Huh... If you think the Democrats can win on the abortion issue, you're dreaming in technicolor. As for debt reduction...that's actually laughable. The Dems will win on both issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted October 11, 2023 Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, August1991 said: My point. Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue. But as was pointed out - your point is untrue. He's not even number 2. So... aren't you basing your position on false data than? What does that say about you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But as was pointed out - your point is untrue. He's not even number 2. So... aren't you basing your position on false data than? What does that say about you? Abortion is a social issue. Things have changed. Debt? This is money. Nothing changes. ==== On both issues, the Republicans are on the wrong side. Most Americans now accept abortion. And most Americans now accept debt. Edited October 11, 2023 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted October 11, 2023 Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, August1991 said: Abortion is a social issue. Things have changed. Debt? This is money. Nothing changes. ==== On both issues, the Republicans are on the wrong side. Most Americans now accept abortion. And most Americans now accept debt. You don't really concern yourself overmuch with making sense or using logic do you, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 8 hours ago, August1991 said: My point. Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue. The Dems will win on both issues. Good. You go with that. See you at the finish line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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