West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Aristides said: That's what courts are for, that's why we have rule of law, not rule of mob. Pence's duties are defined by the Constitution, not Donnie. No, that's what elected officials are for. This should be a case of questions over legislation. Not a criminal case brought on by lunatics. Lawmakers write legislation. Too much nonsense being pushed to the courts because of political disagreements Edited August 17, 2023 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, West said: No, that's what elected officials are for. This should be a case of questions over legislation. Not a criminal case brought on by lunatics. Lawmakers write legislation. Too much nonsense being pushed to the courts because of political disagreements No, that's what Constitutions and courts are for. Lawmakers don't get to do whatever the f**k they want. You would make Donnie president for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: No, that's what Constitutions and courts are for. Lawmakers don't get to do whatever the f**k they want. You would make Donnie president for life. Dual slate is already law. Your nonsense basically makes judges gods and can do whatever they want. Democrats are notorious for trying to usurp the legislative process by using corrupt judges to rule from the bench. Edited August 17, 2023 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, West said: In context he believed he won Georgia by like 30,000 votes. The FACT is you don't know what the pathological LIAR BELIEVES. We do know what he was TOLD by GA ELECTION OFFICIALS. When you have NO EVIDENCE of voter fraud, ALL YOU HAVE is the CERTIFIED VOTE COUNT. Trump FAILED to produce that evidence IN COURT and THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS HERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, robosmith said: The FACT is you don't know what the pathological LIAR BELIEVES. We do know what he was TOLD by GA ELECTION OFFICIALS. When you have NO EVIDENCE of voter fraud, ALL YOU HAVE is the CERTIFIED VOTE COUNT. Trump FAILED to produce that evidence IN COURT and THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS HERE. Sure we do. In this phone call you folks are getting all worked up by he says he won the state. Obviously he's not telling people to manufacture votes. And they did have sworn affidavit testimony ?. No evidence pfft Edited August 17, 2023 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 8 hours ago, West said: No, that's what elected officials are for. This should be a case of questions over legislation. Not a criminal case brought on by lunatics. Lawmakers write legislation. Too much nonsense being pushed to the courts because of political disagreements Nonsense, it that were the case a government could just abolish elections altogether. We have a constitution to put limits on politicians and safeguard the democratic process and peoples rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: Nonsense, it that were the case a government could just abolish elections altogether. We have a constitution to put limits on politicians and safeguard the democratic process and peoples rights And one of those safeguards is to contest an election through the duel slate process. Very strange you are trying to criminalize maneuvers democrats have done in the past Edited August 17, 2023 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 52 minutes ago, West said: And one of those safeguards is to contest an election through the duel slate process. Very strange you are trying to criminalize maneuvers democrats have done in the past Have they tried to intimidate election officials? Have they tried to change an election result by attacking the Capitol and threatening lawmakers? That isn’t “contesting” an election, that is done through the legal system where Trump lost every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 14 hours ago, WestCanMan said: That's a pretty good list, but tbh Trump was late to the birther movement. A couple of things to consider: 1) Nothing on that list compares to the 2017-2019 attempt to oust Trump as president. Compared to that one there was just a bit of whining. 2) A new wrinkle was added in 2021 when questioning elections became a federal offence. A bipartisan Senate Committee found that Russia did interfere with the Election. But removing Trump was ever on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, Aristides said: Have they tried to intimidate election officials? Have they tried to change an election result by attacking the Capitol and threatening lawmakers? That isn’t “contesting” an election, that is done through the legal system where Trump lost every time. Why lie? Apparently they scheduled Trump's first court appearance for super Tuesday. Clearly political like every other fraud indictment/impeachment these lunatics have done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, West said: Why lie? Apparently they scheduled Trump's first court appearance for super Tuesday. Clearly political like every other fraud indictment/impeachment these lunatics have done How does a political party schedule a court appearance? Edited August 17, 2023 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, West said: Sure we do. In this phone call you folks are getting all worked up by he says he won the state. Obviously he's not telling people to manufacture votes. What the pathological liar Trump says about HIS OWN behavior ONLY means that's what he WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE. Duh Only an lDIOT has not figured that out yet. LMAO 3 hours ago, West said: And they did have sworn affidavit testimony ?. No evidence pfft Sworn testimony IS evidence admittable IN COURT. Again, you Canadians reveal your IGNORANCE about US law. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, West said: Why lie? Apparently they scheduled Trump's first court appearance for super Tuesday. Clearly political like every other fraud indictment/impeachment these lunatics have done NOT NEARLY as political as Trump's MOB ASSEMBLY on for the EC vote count on Jan 6th. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Boges said: A bipartisan Senate Committee found that Russia did interfere with the Election. But removing Trump was ever on the table. A bipartisan senate committee did not find that Trump colluded with Russia though. Stop being a disingenuous little f'ing weasel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: A bipartisan senate committee did not find that Trump colluded with Russia though. Stop being a disingenuous little f'ing weasel. They CLEARLY FOUND that the Trump campaign and MANAGER MANAFORT did collude with Russians. Ironically that makes YOU the "disingenuous little f'ing weasel" here. Duh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: A bipartisan senate committee did not find that Trump colluded with Russia though. Stop being a disingenuous little f'ing weasel. But the investigation into Russia was what Trumpers were whining about through that period. Mueller for example. Mueller wasn't allowed to report any theories on Trump. The report doesn't clear Trump. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/mueller-breaks-silence-to-say-report-doesnt-clear-trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Boges said: But the investigation into Russia was what Trumpers were whining about through that period. Mueller for example. Mueller wasn't allowed to report any theories on Trump. The report doesn't clear Trump. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/mueller-breaks-silence-to-say-report-doesnt-clear-trump Does it clear Hillary from Russian collusion? Nope. Does Trump have to be "cleared"? Nope. There was never a credible accusation made and the theory behind it all is laughable. WTF do Russians even know about elections? In their country the army just comes along and stuffs ballot boxes. Can you ever "prove" that Trump didn't collude with Russia without a video recording of every second of his life for 2 years prior to the election? Nope. Your stupid little accusation ran its course. The Dems'/FBI's crime wave is over now. They have to move on to their next crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, WestCanMan said: Does it clear Hillary from Russian collusion? Nope. Does Trump have to be "cleared"? Nope. There was never a credible accusation made and the theory behind it all is laughable. WTF do Russians even know about elections? In their country the army just comes along and stuffs ballot boxes. Can you ever "prove" that Trump didn't collude with Russia without a video recording of every second of his life for 2 years prior to the election? Nope. Your stupid little accusation ran its course. The Dems'/FBI's crime wave is over now. They have to move on to their next crimes. You're the one who brought it up again. I guess it's just a deflection. We can focus on Trump's indicted attempts to steal the 2020 election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Yes, they are.. or at least that is the story amongst politicos. Welcome to the new era where no election is won/lost.. it is simply a matter of who rigged it and got away with it. With conspiratorial thinking.. there is no way to 100% disprove it. There is always the slimmest possibility that they are right.. because they are filling in the blanks, their guess is honestly as good as anyone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Yes, they are.. or at least that is the story amongst politicos. Welcome to the new era where no election is won/lost.. it is simply a matter of who rigged it and got away with it. With conspiratorial thinking.. there is no way to 100% disprove it. There is always the slimmest possibility that they are right.. because they are filling in the blanks, their guess is honestly as good as anyone else's. If you have no proof of voter fraud, ALL YOU HAVE is the certified vote count. Unless the certification was HIJACKED by the state's legislature, thus making it a PARTISAN coverup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: If you have no proof of voter fraud, ALL YOU HAVE is the certified vote count. Unless the certification was HIJACKED by the state's legislature, thus making it a PARTISAN coverup. Let's get this out in the open.. of all posters on this forum and any other.. I believe in conspiracy theories the least. However, lets also be honest and state that you do not have the full information set. You were not at very voting precinct and did not see every ballot (paper or electronic).. you are relying on information collected by someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Boges said: You're the one who brought it up again. Huh? Did I get a post in before the OP, dumbass? Quote I guess it's just a deflection. 1) Of course you guessed wrong, as usual 2) You're the one who just got busted for trying to imply that "a bipartisan committee agreed that Russians interfered in the election" meant "a bipartisan committee agreed that Trump colluded with Russia". You are in no position to make accusations right now. Quote We can focus on Trump's indicted attempts to steal the 2020 election. That falls under the general heading of "Now it has escalated to political parties trying to criminalize the questioning of election results". Real banana republic shiznit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: That falls under the general heading of "Now it has escalated to political parties trying to criminalize the questioning of election results". Real banana republic shiznit. In the way Trump did yeah. Look what Roger Stone was up to before the election was even called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4156983-grand-jurors-in-trump-georgia-case-face-threats-racist-abuse/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-woman-charged-racist-threats-federal-judge-trump-jan-6-case-tanya-chutkan-sheila-jackson-lee/ Rule of law, Trump Cult style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Boges said: In the way Trump did yeah. Look what Roger Stone was up to before the election was even called. Wasn't he locked up in a deep, dark hole at that time? 17 FBI officers raided his home before dawn with fully automatic weapons pointed at him. They brought CNN along to film it all. How could he possibly be out of jail already on that date? Did they arrest him like that for no reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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