Canadian Muslims to stage 'Million Person March' to protest against Trudeau Liberal's push for LGBTQ indoctrination in schools

[CdnFox]

https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-muslims-to-stage-million-person-march-to-protest-against-trudeau-liberals-push-for-lgbtq-indoctrination-in-schools

"You know Canada's built of Christians and Muslims and and all denominations, why not celebrate that?"

"I am optimistic – absolutely. You know, if [there's] one thing that's going to inspire Canadians from coast to coast to go down and protest it's the kids and their innocence and it's families," he said.

El-Cheikh says LGBTQ ideology is being preached to children and has shared photographs with The Post Millennial of school pamphlets that specifically target Muslim children. One such form asks the question, "Can I still be Muslim if I am queer?"

The literature assures the reader that there is no conflict between Islam and homosexuality, a contention that El-Cheikh called "blasphemy." He said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's insistence that Muslims accept his views on LGBTQ ideology amounts to a "fatwa," or an edict on faith and morals.

 

[CdnFox]

Well - this will probably end pretty well

First off - a million people...   damn, that's one thing in the states but it wasn't that long ago in Canadian history when that would have basically been all of us     

If he can get a million Canadians to agree on something other than quebec is a giant pain in the tucas sometimes  i will be very very impressed.

And secondly this kind of blowback is dangerous.  It is a bad bad thing that it's come to this. They'll probably get what they want - and then what? The organizer will have a nice handy army of people and serious political clout,  hes' not just going to tell everyone it's over so go home.

This kind of division was predictable and avoidable.  This did not need to happen.

 

[Guest]

My first reaction, of course, would be to say that Canadian Muslims can fück right off and mind their own business.  As can any other religious whackjob that thinks their God can tell anyone else what to do.

But any literature that assures the reader that there is no conflict between Islam and homosexuality is ludicrous.  Canadian students deserve better.

They should be taught the facts.  There should not be any kind of religious indoctrination in our schools.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

They should be taught the facts.  There should not be any kind of religious indoctrination in our schools.

Heretic.   

Of course - that sentence should be branded in 'glow in the dark' lettering on the inside of every educator's and politicians' eyes.  And the "gay advocacy" groups and the "religious" groups should both be told kindly to bugger the hell off and teach their kids whatever they want at home but to keep ideology out of schools.

But once you demand and require one group to be recognized with special days and flags and such to the exclusion of others - you make this kind of backlash inevitable.   And it was so unnecessary.

Sigh. This is why we can't have nice things.

[OftenWrong]

15 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

There should not be any kind of religious indoctrination in our schools.

Agreed, public schools should stick to the 3 R's (academics), then there will be far less problems.

Including this newest form of liberal religious indoctrination.

"Gay is great, gay is good. Thank you gays for our..."

[Michael Hardner]

18 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

They should be taught the facts.  There should not be any kind of religious indoctrination in our schools.

I think maybe we need to publicize the process of public discussion.

Religious people and everyone else gets to make their case for what should constitute public education.

People who make apocalyptic claims should be shunted to the side, due to reduced credibility.

3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Agreed, public schools should stick to the 3 R's (academics), then there will be far less problems.

Including this newest form of liberal religious indoctrination.

"Gay is great, gay is good. Thank you gays for our..."

School has never been that.  You just want to veto the moral curriculum.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Heretic.   

Of course - that sentence should be branded in 'glow in the dark' lettering on the inside of every educator's and politicians' eyes.  And the "gay advocacy" groups and the "religious" groups should both be told kindly to bugger the hell off and teach their kids whatever they want at home but to keep ideology out of schools.

But once you demand and require one group to be recognized with special days and flags and such to the exclusion of others - you make this kind of backlash inevitable.   And it was so unnecessary.

Sigh. This is why we can't have nice things.

 

1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

Agreed, public schools should stick to the 3 R's (academics), then there will be far less problems.

Including this newest form of liberal religious indoctrination.

"Gay is great, gay is good. Thank you gays for our..."

Yes and no.  It's a sliding scale, and it might be difficult to find just the right spot, but support for the tolerance and acceptance of homosexuality should be taught in schools, as part of biology and humanities curriculums. 

Religion should play no part in what is taught in those lessons. 

Religion should be taught as well, but as a separate subject. 

[Zeitgeist]

God bless El-Cheikh.  I hope that thousands of Canadians of all religions and atheists come out to protest the dangerous agenda of gender ideology and the celebration of lifestyles that are destroying families and the values that made Canada strong.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

 

Yes and no.  It's a sliding scale, and it might be difficult to find just the right spot, but support for the tolerance and acceptance of homosexuality should be taught in schools, as part of biology and humanities curriculums. 

Religion should play no part in what is taught in those lessons. 

Religion should be taught as well, but as a separate subject. 

"tolerance" isn't something that can be taught, and the more you try the more you breed intolerance.  We HAD tolerance, and then we started teaching it in schools. Look where we're at now.

You can touch on it at best, but that's about it.  You can teach the need to respect different opinions and positions in a general sense a little, and you can accurately show what's happened in history to societies who couldn't respect each other's positions.

But you can't teach "gays are ok".  Because then you're saying "they're special and we treat them special".  And others say "well why am I not special?  Why are they more special than me?".  And we get what we've got now.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

"tolerance" isn't something that can be taught, and the more you try the more you breed intolerance.  We HAD tolerance, and then we started teaching it in schools. Look where we're at now.

You can touch on it at best, but that's about it.  You can teach the need to respect different opinions and positions in a general sense a little, and you can accurately show what's happened in history to societies who couldn't respect each other's positions.

But you can't teach "gays are ok".  Because then you're saying "they're special and we treat them special".  And others say "well why am I not special?  Why are they more special than me?".  And we get what we've got now.

You teach tolerance by saying that a gay relationship is the same as any other relationship.  By telling children that there is no difference when it comes to love, marriage and raising a family.

And by telling them the truth about religion.

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

You teach tolerance by saying that a gay relationship is the same as any other relationship. 

It isn't the same. It should be treated the same. We shouldn't pretend it isn't different, just as we shouldn't act like they are doing anything wrong, if both are consenting adults.

But when you cross the line, and state a man becomes a woman when they say so, you stop your movement dead in its tracks. This party, has hijacked the movement, demanding strict adherence to how they feel inside.

This isn't supported by any facts, and driving it down throats with force, won't change this.

For the latter, I essentially disagree that this is how you build tolerance, as in most places in the world,  a man with a beard wearing a dress is either a cross dresser or gay.

Only in the west, must we approve the womanhood of such a person,  no questions asked.

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

God bless El-Cheikh.  I hope that thousands of Canadians of all religions and atheists come out to protest the dangerous agenda of gender ideology and the celebration of lifestyles that are destroying families and the values that made Canada strong.

Canada will become a stronger and better country when liberalism and socialism are finally defeated. Both have contributed to the so many divisions in Canada today, plus both have pushed sexual perversions of all kinds on our children. 

I remember seeing a picture of that dip wod dictator of ours in Ottawa where he had his arms around two drag queer queens with his tongue sticking out. He looked quite happy to be in that photo with those two clowns. No leader of any country in the world would be seen doing such a thing. Only in Canada, you say? Pity! 

[OftenWrong]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

People who make apocalyptic claims should be shunted to the side, due to reduced credibility.

Surprise surprise, all three religions of the book are apocalyptic in nature. That is the jews, christians and muslims.

And yes, they do believe the brand of liberalism you people are forcing down everyone's throats, is the work of the devil.

Deplorable, in't it?

[OftenWrong]

4 hours ago, bcsapper said:

support for the tolerance and acceptance of homosexuality should be taught in schools, as part of biology and humanities curriculums.

Already was that way when I went to school in this country, some 4 decades ago. I realize it may not bevthe same where some of you people were brought up.You being the immigrants here.

Let's be clear: Canadians don't need  a "correction" in our thinking towards gays. It's the immigrants.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

You teach tolerance by saying that a gay relationship is the same as any other relationship.  By telling children that there is no difference when it comes to love, marriage and raising a family.

And by telling them the truth about religion.

That’s not really true though, is it?  A gay couple can only maintain a family artificially, through either artificial insemination, in vitro. or by adopting.  Of course adopting means adopting a child that’s the result of male and female sexual intercourse.  There are many infertile heterosexual couples who would like to adopt, but activist adoption agencies give the babies to gay couples.  Of course there’s no discussion about whether a child is better off with a male and female mother and father set of role models.  We call them parents. There’s also no question as to whether it’s better to try to have a biological natural connection to one’s child than to get a baby from other parents or test tubes.  Do you see any problem with this push to get away from what is natural? I thought you were into nature.

Yup, we need to seriously hit reverse on promoting the panoply of selected genders and orientations. I used to believe in tolerance, but now that I see our kids being manipulated to believe and do things that are antithetical to nature, let alone religion, I think the whole LGBTQ+ movement requires serious reconsideration.  Our kids are at much greater risk of mental health problems and suicide from the promotion of these ideas than they were before the flags and gender affirmation entered our schools.  I also think our very civilization is at risk from this movement.

Edited August 6, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Our kids are at much greater risk of mental health problems and suicide from the promotion of these ideas than they were before the flags and gender affirmation entered our schools.

Facts.

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

Facts.

I just don’t know how we get out of this mess.  Maybe this kind of protest will help.

[OftenWrong]

22 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I just don’t know how we get out of this mess.  Maybe this kind of protest will help.

We don't re-elect Trudeau.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

You teach tolerance by saying that a gay relationship is the same as any other relationship. 

And when they say "i'm not sure that's true" you beat them right?  or repress their right to speak? Or kick them out of the school as we've already seen.

Then 'their" side gets up in arms over it and strikes back. Which we're seeing now.

You absolutely do NOT teach tolerance that way.

Sorry - but you cannot teach tolerance without becoming intolerant, and that just spreads more intolerance, not tolerance.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

1. Surprise surprise, all three religions of the book are apocalyptic in nature. That is the jews, christians and muslims.

2. And yes, they do believe the brand of liberalism you people are forcing down everyone's throats, is the work of the devil.

3. Deplorable, in't it?

1. Hahaha.  True.

2. Yes.

3. So they get 3 minutes at the parents council meeting, freedom of speech and all that.  We'll see a lot of them a few years from now at PFLAG meetings after their kids come out...

35 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

We don't re-elect Trudeau.

The main contender has a culture war at the center of his camps, unlike Trudeau.

[Zeitgeist]

12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Hahaha.  True.

2. Yes.

3. So they get 3 minutes at the parents council meeting, freedom of speech and all that.  We'll see a lot of them a few years from now at PFLAG meetings after their kids come out...

The main contender has a culture war at the center of his camps, unlike Trudeau.

What?  This culture war wouldn’t have happened if not for the ideology pushed by the Liberals and like-minded radicals.

What, you think that people with gay kids universally support the multiple sexuality and gender LGBTQ+ movement? Ever consider that it might be the opposite? Ever consider that some gay people might oppose the direction and characteristics of the movement that is supposed to represent them? Ever consider that it’s working against their interests at this point?

Edited August 6, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

We don't re-elect Trudeau.

That might help to keep it from getting worse as fast, but i feel like we're on this roller coaster now and the ride will go on till it's over.

We would have to find someone willing to get in the middle of both groups and tell them both to basically shut up and stand down, and have the charisma to pull that off.  I don't see any leader stepping up to the plate who'd be willing to try that any time soon.

[Michael Hardner]

24 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

1. This culture war wouldn’t have happened if not for the ideology pushed by the Liberals and like-minded radicals.

2. What, you think that people with gay kids universally support the multiple sexuality and gender LGBTQ+ movement? Ever consider that it might be the opposite? Ever consider that some gay people might oppose the direction and characteristics of the movement that is supposed to represent them? Ever consider that it’s working against their interests at this point?

1. No.  Gay marriage passed years ago.  Trans rights were supported by both main parties, and nobody saw much point in discussing it until FOX & friends figured out how to weaponize... freedom.

2. Universally? No.  I never think that there's unanimous support for anything.  That's never been the question.  The question is what are the implications of firey and angry rhetoric designed to change the entire makeup of the public sphere.  Trudeau may have painted himself as progressive, up until the blackface scandal, but he was never firey.

[Zeitgeist]

42 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. No.  Gay marriage passed years ago.  Trans rights were supported by both main parties, and nobody saw much point in discussing it until FOX & friends figured out how to weaponize... freedom.

2. Universally? No.  I never think that there's unanimous support for anything.  That's never been the question.  The question is what are the implications of firey and angry rhetoric designed to change the entire makeup of the public sphere.  Trudeau may have painted himself as progressive, up until the blackface scandal, but he was never firey.

You’re so out of touch with what’s going on in schools and culturally to hold that position.  Kids are being manipulated, confused, and abused by a system beholden to the views of radical activists.  Stop being so oblivious and enabling.  Smarten up.  

Edited August 6, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Religion should be taught as well, but as a separate subject. 

Same with atheism.