Canadian Defence News

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yes By the vast majority of economists, and it turns out they were right

Nope, you don't have a clue.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Everybody except you, clearly. 
 

That is false. Building a whole second gas plant just to provide a few peak hours of electricity is more expensive than adding a battery to an existing gas plant

 

That would make the battery a secondary source which would mean i was 100 percent correct. 

Fcuk you're stupid. You literally just piped up and demonstrated i'm right. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Nope, you don't have a clue.

Yep,  and you've apparently got to lie to make your point. 

It's true that economists loved the idea of it but as I said it became apparent fairly quickly on but it doesn't work. And at this point we now know that to be a fact and we know why

Your fault!   Your side light and made shit up in order to bring in more tax revenue and people have figured it out  

Cry harder little guy  

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13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's true that economists loved the idea of it

And the vast majority still do for the same reason. It's the best most effective measure against climate change.

Which probably explains why the fossil fuel companies abandoned it.

They're like old asbestos industry execs.

[Legato]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

Not the vast majority of them. Most know the long term gain is worth the short term pain.

Another brick in the wall is not needed.

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

And the vast majority still do for the same reason. It's the best most effective measure against climate change.

Which probably explains why the fossil fuel companies abandoned it.

They're like old asbestos industry execs.

I guess you feel if you repeat a lie often enough it'll start to be true

We already know it doesn't work. Didn't work in British Columbia and it didn't work federally.

Nor did the government expect it to work. They did in British Columbia where they set goals and measurements to record over time whether it was having the desired effect. It didn't but at least they thought that it might and we're checking on it.

But the federal government admitted that they had no goal, did not have any idea or plan as to how well it would work, had no way to monitor it and didn't bother trying. So they obviously never thought it was going to work from the first place and didn't care

In the real world it failed and that's now recorded history. And that would be your fault and the fault of your Like-minded fools

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1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

I guess you feel if you repeat a lie often enough it'll start to be true

Nope, it's just the answer I get from search results.

You alluded to similar results when you said...

It's true that economists loved the idea...

 

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Nope, it's just the answer I get from search results.

 

Ahhh so it's your university of facebook degree that's leading you astray  

Carbon taxes failed in Canada. And more than once. And they had a long time to work.

Sorry that reality doesn't agree with your echo chamber. If you actually look yourself and do the research you get to the truth, carbon pricing is a complete failure. The gov'ts that want to charge it to increase their revenues and those who support them tend to be the only groups who pretend otherwise. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

carbon pricing is a complete failure

Only a small number of economists believe that.

The carbon tax only failed because you people won the denial wars.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Only a small number of economists believe that.

 

I'm sure the vast majority of economists are interested in keeping their credentials with the government. But the reality is what the reality is. The only people that say otherwise as I said our environmental groups the government or those supporting one of the two

It failed. It failed in British Columbia to achieve its goals and they feel nationally although we didn't have any goals

 

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19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It failed. It failed in British Columbia to achieve its goals and they feel nationally although we didn't have any goals

Well, you're the ones in the driver seat now so...

Let me guess, this will be like the left and pronouns where you people have to pizz and moan for decades and decades about them before you come up with a goal.

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Well, you're the ones in the driver seat now so...

 

Nope, same party in power as always.  This is still your disaster and clown show. 

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8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nope, same party in power as always.  This is still your disaster and clown show. 

Nobody gives a shit since you people won the climate change war so now its up to you guys to deliver.

You should only need a couple of years to make everything right as rain.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

Nobody gives a shit since you people won the climate change war so now its up to you guys to deliver.

 

We didn't win anything. It's just not going your way due to your own incompetence. And you're still the ones in charge so I'm afraid it's still you calling the shots

Basically it's as if you stole a car, demanded the car was yours, crashed the car, and are now trying to demand that it's the passenger's job to call a tow truck and have it repaired   

Nope, this ongoing train wreck is all you  i'm afraid.  And still your responsibility to address.  And we still have carbon taxes and yet they're doing nothing for the environment. 

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31 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's just not going your way due to your own incompetence.

Clearly, the world is getting warmer due to your success.

 

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Clearly, the world is getting warmer due to your success.

 

The Importance of the Sun
The Sun has continuously brightened over billions of years. In the very distant past (such as billions of years ago), the Sun was much dimmer. Even with significantly higher levels of atmospheric \(CO_{2}\), the weaker solar radiation wasn't strong enough to heat the planet significantly.

Don't think Foxy was around then.

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21 minutes ago, Legato said:

In the very distant past (such as billions of years ago), the Sun was much dimmer.

Yup, we're all gonna die.

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Clearly, the world is getting warmer due to your success.

 

It's your gov't in power   LOL  "WE"RE IN CHARGE HERE SO IT MUST BE YOUR FAULT"

[Legato]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yup, we're all gonna die.

Well then, now would be a good time to offer appeasement to the gods of your choosing.

[Army Guy]

On 5/25/2026 at 7:56 PM, BeaverFever said:

Let’s be honest, no matter how much it is and how quickly it come you will claim without any evidence whatsoever that conservatives would have done more and faster.  The jets and space contracts in particular were lightning fast. The apartment building in Esquimalt was closed within 5 weeks.   You’re just trolling. 

 

There are many drone projects underway in the military.The military doesn’t even knew what it wants in a drone yet. Not all drones are equally capable. You act like they’re trying to buy something and carney won’t let them  

The military branches STILL have yet to define their drone requirements and there are numerous active drone projects throughout the CAF  

You guys all being blue-collar types really have zero appreciation for the analysis and planning amd high-level decisions that have to go into things  You folks just want to do shit on impulse and make it up as you go and you have completely unrealistic expectations about when it will be finished (because you don’t do planning) and that’s how you get into shitshow quagmires like the Iran fiasco. 
 

No they are issues now because you have to decide if a specific product’s backlog is worth the wait. Should you accept a 5-year delivery delay to get exactly what you want or should you settle for something that does 85% of what you want but is available years sooner?  
 

You cant buy an entire fleet on UOR. All of those Afghanistan purchases were very limited small quantity purchases   
 

Also the Globals ate not Learjets (LEAR was a specific brand of small bizjet that is no longer made ). And like the Airbus they are transport and medevac not just VIP. One of the 7 is exclusively a defence R&D testbed   
 

 

I just gave you a few examples of government contracts done at light speed, C-17 purchase 4 Aircraft)was a conservative (harper) C-130 J contract (17 aircraft)(was done at the same time by the conservatives...how much more evidence do you want...Because there is a lot more...buying an apartment building is peanuts, when you have bils in the bank... ...if it was sooooo easy why did it take 11 years for the liberals to buy one...not like this problem just happened...Look who is trolling...

https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/nova-scotia-sees-spike-in-military-personnel-living-in-tents-couchsurfing-amid-housing-crisis-100922494

There are many trails going on, some in their second year, very few have ended in a contract...And the military knows what it wants....Media just released a plan to buy Ukraine counter drones...and still no contract..

Thanks for the correction....but you knew exactly what i was talking about...Yes they can be used for almost anything, how many PTEs do you think get to fly in business class, in a GLOBAL jet....not very many, high ranking officers, MP, governor General...sounds like MOSTLY VIP to me...Reminds me of the PM planes purchase funny how fast it can go when it is for the PM....now military combat equipment lets do a study.....

 

 

[Army Guy]

On 5/25/2026 at 10:13 PM, BeaverFever said:

Well it was originally made by Harper who then cut defence spending to below 1%.  What do you make of that

Trudeau did increase it significantly just not to 2% and he probably had no intention of ever doing so and probably did tell the head of NATO that  

But we are ar 2% now no matter how much you want to deny it anf make up your own definitions instead of the NATO definition  

 

I was vocal about that as well, you seem to think this is a one way street....it is not both major parties have let our military done....along with Canadians...what do you think about that ? The only way we got new equipment in Afghanistan, is when enough soldiers had died do to the lack, or operating old equipment...What message does that send to soldiers...about our government , Canadians, about a soldiers worth, lots of other questions as well.....If you had served you would know that....

Yes 1.44 i % is a lot....but not 2 % which was the agreed upon amount....

I have not denied the 2 %, it was done with some creative accounting but it is still two percent....The new NATO standard is not 2 %, that was changed....it is now 3.5 % on military spending ie equipment , manpower, and 1.5 % on infra structure...for a total of 5 % GDP......not my definition....NATO's definitions....So we are back to being behind once again....and once trump is gone I'm sure Canada will lose all taste for being on target....it is how we roll....

[BeaverFever]

Ottawa picks Sweden’s Saab early-warning aircraft tech over U.S. contenders
 

 

Prime Minister Mark Carney said Canada has entered into negotiations to buy Swedish-made Saab early-warning aircraft technology, picking a non-U.S. supplier as he makes good on a promise to reduce spending on American military gear.

Mr. Carney announced the selection at the annual CANSEC defence trade show in Ottawa Wednesday.

He said Canada will proceed with the Swedish GlobalEye system, made by Saab. Other contenders were the Aeris X by L3Harris and the E-7 Wedgetail by Boeing.

The GlobalEye early-warning system will be installed on Global 6500 jets made by Bombardier in Canada. 

Mr. Carney told the CANSEC audience this was the first time a prime minister had spoken at the annual trade show, saying the assumptions that have defined decades of Canadian defence policy have been overturned.

The United States has grown more protectionist and unpredictable under President Donald Trump, forcing Canada to grow more self-reliant. 

Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft, often referred to as flying radars, are needed to track incoming threats in an era where Canada is worried about hypersonic and cruise missiles from countries such as Russia and China.

“Saab and Bombardier’s expertise is transforming a modern jet into a cutting-edge surveillance aircraft,” Mr. Carney said in his speech.

“With its suite of advanced sensors and mission systems, Saab’s GlobalEye will be a key resource for the Canadian Armed Forces to detect and deter threats across the Arctic.”

 

 

Mr. Carney has repeatedly promised to reduce Canada’s spending on U.S.-made military gear. “The days of our military sending 70 cents of every dollar to the United States are over,” he said most recently at the Liberal Party’s convention in April.

He noted the Saab technology is also the product of choice for Canadian partners, including France, Sweden and the UAE.

Mr. Carney declined to say whether picking Saab’s early-warning technology is a sign that Canada will also end up buying the Swedish company’s Gripen fighter jets. His government announced last year it’s reconsidering buying the full order of U.S.-made F-35 fighters amid rising protectionism from Washington.

He said Canada will take a decision “after proper deliberation and taking into account all the considerations, first and foremost operational requirements, of the Canadian Forces and secondly, the broader industrial benefits and true partnerships we can strike.”

While the Bombardier 6500 aircraft are built in Canada, the Prime Minister acknowledged they have about 20 per cent U.S. content.

As part of the Saab deal, Canada will build Bombardier 6500 jets for early-warning and control air aircraft orders from other countries, Mr. Carney said. This will support more than 3,000 jobs in Canada’s aerospace sector, he said.

At least one-third of the planned GlobalEye aircraft fleet will be produced in Canada over the next 15 years, he said. This represents at least 40 aircraft, including export orders for other countries, built by Canadian workers.

GlobalEye’s airborne surveillance capability can track objects and signals up to 650 kilometres away, and will rapidly share information to the Canadian Armed Forces, Mr. Carney said.

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His government has boosted defence spending quickly in what experts have said is the largest short-term injection since the Korean War. Mr. Carney’s November, 2025 budget announced more than $80-billion over five years with commitments to spend even more to meet at new NATO commitment to spend 3.5 per cent of Canada’s Gross Domestic Product on the military.
 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-military-aircraft-sweden-saab/

[BeaverFever]

39 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

 

Ottawa picks Sweden’s Saab early-warning aircraft tech over U.S. contenders
 

 

 

Prime Minister Mark Carney said Canada has entered into negotiations to buy Swedish-made Saab early-warning aircraft technology, picking a non-U.S. supplier as he makes good on a promise to reduce spending on American military gear.

Mr. Carney announced the selection at the annual CANSEC defence trade show in Ottawa Wednesday.

He said Canada will proceed with the Swedish GlobalEye system, made by Saab. Other contenders were the Aeris X by L3Harris and the E-7 Wedgetail by Boeing.

The GlobalEye early-warning system will be installed on Global 6500 jets made by Bombardier in Canada. 

Mr. Carney told the CANSEC audience this was the first time a prime minister had spoken at the annual trade show, saying the assumptions that have defined decades of Canadian defence policy have been overturned.

The United States has grown more protectionist and unpredictable under President Donald Trump, forcing Canada to grow more self-reliant. 

Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft, often referred to as flying radars, are needed to track incoming threats in an era where Canada is worried about hypersonic and cruise missiles from countries such as Russia and China.

“Saab and Bombardier’s expertise is transforming a modern jet into a cutting-edge surveillance aircraft,” Mr. Carney said in his speech.

“With its suite of advanced sensors and mission systems, Saab’s GlobalEye will be a key resource for the Canadian Armed Forces to detect and deter threats across the Arctic.”

 

 

Mr. Carney has repeatedly promised to reduce Canada’s spending on U.S.-made military gear. “The days of our military sending 70 cents of every dollar to the United States are over,” he said most recently at the Liberal Party’s convention in April.

He noted the Saab technology is also the product of choice for Canadian partners, including France, Sweden and the UAE.

Mr. Carney declined to say whether picking Saab’s early-warning technology is a sign that Canada will also end up buying the Swedish company’s Gripen fighter jets. His government announced last year it’s reconsidering buying the full order of U.S.-made F-35 fighters amid rising protectionism from Washington.

He said Canada will take a decision “after proper deliberation and taking into account all the considerations, first and foremost operational requirements, of the Canadian Forces and secondly, the broader industrial benefits and true partnerships we can strike.”

While the Bombardier 6500 aircraft are built in Canada, the Prime Minister acknowledged they have about 20 per cent U.S. content.

As part of the Saab deal, Canada will build Bombardier 6500 jets for early-warning and control air aircraft orders from other countries, Mr. Carney said. This will support more than 3,000 jobs in Canada’s aerospace sector, he said.

At least one-third of the planned GlobalEye aircraft fleet will be produced in Canada over the next 15 years, he said. This represents at least 40 aircraft, including export orders for other countries, built by Canadian workers.

GlobalEye’s airborne surveillance capability can track objects and signals up to 650 kilometres away, and will rapidly share information to the Canadian Armed Forces, Mr. Carney said.

…

His government has boosted defence spending quickly in what experts have said is the largest short-term injection since the Korean War. Mr. Carney’s November, 2025 budget announced more than $80-billion over five years with commitments to spend even more to meet at new NATO commitment to spend 3.5 per cent of Canada’s Gross Domestic Product on the military.
 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-military-aircraft-sweden-saab/

Well no surprise here, this one is a no-brainer. Everyone knew this was coming the only question was when were they going to announce it and would this be the big CANSEC announcement this year. There are still more projects ready pop, too. The Future Fighter Lead In Trainer is apparently almost ready to be announced any time That is the advanced fighter jet trainer. My bet is the Italian Leonardo M-346 Master but there are a couple of other good contenders. And the army has a big  land vehicle combat simulator apparently ready to be announced soon. Subs will announced as early as June, like 4 weeks from now, MANY MANY YEARS ahead of schedule. 

Edited May 27 by BeaverFever

[Venandi]

Excellent.

The supply line delays and lack of a parts sharing agreement with compatible US aircraft will make for longer TD breaks in great locations. 

Where were you when I needed you....

 

Edited May 27 by Venandi

[John Johnston]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Well no surprise here, this one is a no-brainer. Everyone knew this was coming the only question was when were they going to announce it and would this be the big CANSEC announcement this year. There are still more projects ready pop, too. The Future Fighter Lead In Trainer is apparently almost ready to be announced any time That is the advanced fighter jet trainer. My bet is the Italian Leonardo M-346 Master but there are a couple of other good contenders. And the army has a big  land vehicle combat simulator apparently ready to be announced soon. Subs will announced as early as June, like 4 weeks from now, MANY MANY YEARS ahead of schedule. 

Also...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/subs-germany-canada-economy-jobs-9.7213216

Very interesting.