reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 This CLIMATE has not changed for over a century. 1. Hot in the summer. 2. Usually a lot of rain in the summer. 3. Mild temperatures in late fall 4. Cool temperatures in Winter. 5. A hurricane every five or ten years, that NOBODY is able to predict. A history of Florida hurricanes. https://www.florida-backroads-travel.com/florida-hurricane-history.html Cedar Keys Hurricane 1896 Great Miami Hurricane 1926 Okeechobee Hurricane 1928 Labor Day Hurricane 1935 Hurricane Donna 1960 Hurricane Cleo 1964 Hurricane Betsy 1965 Hurricane Camile 1969 Hurricane Eloise 1975 Hurricane David 1979 Hurricane Elena 1985 Hurricane Andrew 1992 Hurricane Opal 1995 Hurricanes Charley, Frances, Ivan, Jeanne 2004 Hurricane Dennis 2005 Hurricane Wilma 2005 Hurricane Irma 2017 Hurricane Michael 2018 Hurricane Sally 2020 Hurricane Ian 2022 Hurricane Nicole 2022 Because Florida stretches so far in different directions NO ONE HURRICANE affected the entire state. Some affected the lower Atlantic Coast. Some affected the Peninsula. Some kicked the shit out of the West Coast. I was living in Orlando when Hurricane Andew (A CAT FIVE) slammed into the Miami area. We just experienced mild rain on that day. NOTHING is going to change this climate any time soon. There is ZERO evidence to suggest that one day Key West will have 30 inches of SNOW in July. Just not gonna happen. Florida is a part of the EARTH and the EARTH determines our climate. Only a total mor0n somehow thinks human activity can affect our climate. Quote
Rebound Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, reason10 said: This CLIMATE has not changed for over a century. 1. Hot in the summer. 2. Usually a lot of rain in the summer. 3. Mild temperatures in late fall 4. Cool temperatures in Winter. 5. A hurricane every five or ten years, that NOBODY is able to predict. A history of Florida hurricanes. https://www.florida-backroads-travel.com/florida-hurricane-history.html Cedar Keys Hurricane 1896 Great Miami Hurricane 1926 Okeechobee Hurricane 1928 Labor Day Hurricane 1935 Hurricane Donna 1960 Hurricane Cleo 1964 Hurricane Betsy 1965 Hurricane Camile 1969 Hurricane Eloise 1975 Hurricane David 1979 Hurricane Elena 1985 Hurricane Andrew 1992 Hurricane Opal 1995 Hurricanes Charley, Frances, Ivan, Jeanne 2004 Hurricane Dennis 2005 Hurricane Wilma 2005 Hurricane Irma 2017 Hurricane Michael 2018 Hurricane Sally 2020 Hurricane Ian 2022 Hurricane Nicole 2022 Because Florida stretches so far in different directions NO ONE HURRICANE affected the entire state. Some affected the lower Atlantic Coast. Some affected the Peninsula. Some kicked the shit out of the West Coast. I was living in Orlando when Hurricane Andew (A CAT FIVE) slammed into the Miami area. We just experienced mild rain on that day. NOTHING is going to change this climate any time soon. There is ZERO evidence to suggest that one day Key West will have 30 inches of SNOW in July. Just not gonna happen. Florida is a part of the EARTH and the EARTH determines our climate. Only a total mor0n somehow thinks human activity can affect our climate. Exactly! 1896 - 1969: EIGHT hurricanes in 75 years 2004-2022- EIGHT hurricanes in 18 years. Including… FIVE hurricanes in the last FIVE years. Catch a clue. 1 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Deluge Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Rebound said: Exactly! 1896 - 1969: EIGHT hurricanes in 75 years 2004-2022- EIGHT hurricanes in 18 years. Including… FIVE hurricanes in the last FIVE years. Catch a clue. Not good enough. Recorded history is spotty and less reliable in earlier years. Climate Change is a hoax. Edited July 13, 2023 by Deluge Quote
Rebound Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, Deluge said: Not good enough. Recorded history is spotty and less reliable in earlier years. Climate Change is a hoax. This is only about 100 years ago. We aren’t talking about Ancient Rome. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Deluge Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rebound said: This is only about 100 years ago. We aren’t talking about Ancient Rome. It may as well have been ancient Rome when you compare technologies. Edited July 13, 2023 by Deluge Quote
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 40 minutes ago, Rebound said: Exactly! 1896 - 1969: EIGHT hurricanes in 75 years 2004-2022- EIGHT hurricanes in 18 years. Including… FIVE hurricanes in the last FIVE years. Catch a clue. Nope. Human activity has NOTHING to do with those storms. Humans take up only 14 percent of the planet's surface. We've already gone over the termite thing and you've already lost that argument. Hurricanes are NATURAL occurrences. Human activity has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with them. Humans also cannot warm up or cool down a small town in winter or summer, much less a PLANET. 36 minutes ago, Deluge said: Not good enough. Recorded history is spotty and less reliable in earlier years. Climate Change is a hoax. I don't think climate change is a hoax. The climate DOES change in certain areas. The climate HAS changed over the history of the EArth. The HOAX is that human activity is involved. Only the DUMBEST carbon based life forms are spewing that lie. Quote
robosmith Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, reason10 said: Nope. Human activity has NOTHING to do with those storms. Humans take up only 14 percent of the planet's surface. We've already gone over the termite thing and you've already lost that argument. Hurricanes are NATURAL occurrences. Human activity has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with them. Humans also cannot warm up or cool down a small town in winter or summer, much less a PLANET. I don't think climate change is a hoax. The climate DOES change in certain areas. The climate HAS changed over the history of the EArth. The HOAX is that human activity is involved. Only the DUMBEST carbon based life forms are spewing that lie. The ONLY EVIDENCE you posted ^here is how DEEP YOU ARE IN DENIAL. Duh. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 52 minutes ago, Deluge said: It may as well have been ancient Rome when you compare technologies. You didn't need radars and computers to record when a hurricane came through. Folks had pen and paper back then, and they did keep records. ? 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
eyeball Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 56 minutes ago, reason10 said: The HOAX is that human activity is involved. Only the DUMBEST carbon based life forms are spewing that lie. Does Florida still require employees who mention climate change in reports they write to seek psychiatric counselling? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Michael Hardner Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: Does Florida still require employees who mention climate change in reports they write to seek psychiatric counselling? Yes because they're so smrt. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Rebound Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, reason10 said: Nope. Human activity has NOTHING to do with those storms. Humans take up only 14 percent of the planet's surface. We've already gone over the termite thing and you've already lost that argument. Hurricanes are NATURAL occurrences. Human activity has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with them. Humans also cannot warm up or cool down a small town in winter or summer, much less a PLANET. I don't think climate change is a hoax. The climate DOES change in certain areas. The climate HAS changed over the history of the EArth. The HOAX is that human activity is involved. Only the DUMBEST carbon based life forms are spewing that lie. The dumbest? Like… NASA? Yeah, some yahoo who can’t even get a full-time job as a second grade teacher thinks he’s smarter than all the scientists at NASA. Riiiight… 2 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Deluge Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: You didn't need radars and computers to record when a hurricane came through. Folks had pen and paper back then, and they did keep records. ? Pen and paper could get you only so far. Technology picks up ALL activity and records it, folks with pen and paper only recorded what the naked eye could see. The bottom line is, the early 1900's didn't have rabid climate activists getting involved with every facet of climate like they do today, so it's stoopid to say that record keeping was just as reliable as it is today. Edited July 13, 2023 by Deluge Quote
robosmith Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Deluge said: Pen and paper could get you only so far. Technology picks up ALL activity and records it, folks with pen and paper only recorded what the naked eye could see. Which is EVERY Hurricane that makes landfall and MANY which don't. Of course, the ships that were sunk were probably missed when they never arrived at port. Quote
Deluge Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 Just now, robosmith said: Which is EVERY Hurricane that makes landfall and MANY which don't. Of course, the ships that were sunk were probably missed when they never arrived at port. The point is that there are no man made climate catastrophes, just "Mother Nature" doing her thing. Quote
robosmith Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, Deluge said: The point is that there are no man made climate catastrophes, just "Mother Nature" doing her thing. You posted NO EVIDENCE in support of your "point." "Mother Nature" does NOT dump giga-tons of fossil fuel burning GHG into the atmosphere EVERY YEAR. How about you at least acknowledge that FACT? Quote
Rebound Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, Deluge said: The point is that there are no man made climate catastrophes, just "Mother Nature" doing her thing. No, you’re just blowing smoke out of your ass. First you said that no-one has kept track of major hurricanes which hit Florida 100-125 years ago, and instead of conceding that isn’t so, you jumped to something else. This is Science versus Make-Believe Nonsense. NASA believes there is overwhelming evidence already of man made climate change due to CO2, and so does Every Single Relevant Major Scientific Organization On Earth. Thousands to top scientists from NASA to Harvard to MIT and on and on… and you have an “opinion.” Backed up by memes and your instinct. Can’t you understand that if your “instinct” is wrong and all those scientists are right… how f-cked we are? Just MAYYYBE… they could be right, and what that means? 2 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Moonbox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Pen and paper could get you only so far. Technology picks up ALL activity and records it, folks with pen and paper only recorded what the naked eye could see. Hurricanes are invisible to the naked eye? ? Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Rebound said: The dumbest? Like… NASA? Yeah, some yahoo who can’t even get a full-time job as a second grade teacher thinks he’s smarter than all the scientists at NASA. Riiiight… Nasa NEVER said conclusively that human beings are capable of changing the climate of an entire planet (which by the way, THERE IS NO SUCH FCKING THING.) And substitute teachers like me (WHO BY THE WAY, I'M OFFERED ACTUAL TEACHING POSITIONS AT ALMOST EVERY SCHOOL I SUB AT, YOU MORE ON) pay taxes so lazy fat ass bums like you can get welfare checks. Quote
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, robosmith said: You posted NO EVIDENCE in support of your "point." "Mother Nature" does NOT dump giga-tons of fossil fuel burning GHG into the atmosphere EVERY YEAR. How about you at least acknowledge that FACT? MOTHER NATURE HAS FROZEN AND WARMED THE EARTH LONG BEFORE HUMANS APPEARED. And again, TERMITES RELEASE MORE CO2 INTO THE ATMOSPHERE THAN ALL HUMAN ACTIVITY COMBINED. AND CO2 IS LESS THAN A PERCENTAGE POINT OF ALL GREENHOUSE GASSES. 97 PERCENT IS WATER VAPOR, WHICH COMES FROM THE OCEANS WHICH TAKE UP OVER 70 PERCENT OF THE EARTH'S SURFACE. THERE IS NO WAY HUMAN ACTIVITY IS WARMING OR COOLING THIS PLANET. THERE IS NO WAY HUMAN ACTIVITY CAN CHANGE THE CLIMATE ANYWHERE ON THIS PLANET. Humans cannot make it rain during a drought. Humans cannot stop a blizzsard. Humans CANNOT divert a hurricane. Humans CAN'T EVER WARM A SMALL FCKING TOWN IN THE DEAD OF WINTER. You really are now starting to sound like some of those special ed Downs Syndrome kids I used to sub for. They hear facts and continue to repeat crap. 3 hours ago, robosmith said: The ONLY EVIDENCE you posted ^here is how DEEP YOU ARE IN DENIAL. Duh. I only know the facts and science. You are the one who denies science and facts. Quote
robosmith Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, reason10 said: I only know the facts and science. No EVIDENCE of ^this. LMAO 6 minutes ago, reason10 said: You are the one who denies science and facts. I deny that what you post here is "science and facts." It's ONLY YOUR Dunning Kruger OPINIONS. Duh. Edited July 13, 2023 by robosmith Quote
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 Just now, robosmith said: No EVIDENCE of ^this. LMAO I deny that what you post here is "science and facts." It's ONLY YOUR Dunning Kruger OPINIONS. Duh. I have posted FACTS from reliable sources. You have not. You have lost this argument, Fraulien. 1 Quote
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) By the way, boys and girls (since there are some goose steppers here who look at video gamers as scientists) Florida is having an unusually warm summer. The Gulf is a record 90 degrees. What does science have to say about that? From SEVERAL sources, I have discovered that these lab coats have decided to NAME this phenomenon. They are calling it an Atlantic El Nino. Whew! We can all sleep better tonight, knowing some hack who looks at flawed computer models all day long has NAMED THIS, just as in the late 80s some other hacks gave us the original El Nino to NAME a similar type warming trend in the Pacific. Florida may get hit by a hurricane or it may not. Certainly the scientists who are most vested with warning us in time do not have a fcking CLUE. TWICE they had the St. Petersburg area evacuate its barrier islands, only for Gulf storms to slam into the Gulf coast, 100 miles south. So they are little more than just items of entertainment. They have no clue. In the REAL scientific world, warm ocean waters are fuel for hurricanes. If one gets out of Cape Verde and gets past the Windward Islands and Cuba, we're going to be in for a rough ride. And AGAIN, this is water WARMED BY THE SUN, with heat held in by the greenhouse effect, NINETY SEVEN PERCENT OF WHICH IS WATER. Remember, the planet was warmed and cooled AND EVEN FROZEN long before humans came on the scene. Edited July 13, 2023 by reason10 Quote
robosmith Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 7 hours ago, reason10 said: By the way, boys and girls (since there are some goose steppers here who look at video gamers as scientists) Florida is having an unusually warm summer. The Gulf is a record 90 degrees. What does science have to say about that? From SEVERAL sources, I have discovered that these lab coats have decided to NAME this phenomenon. They are calling it an Atlantic El Nino. Whew! We can all sleep better tonight, knowing some hack who looks at flawed computer models all day long has NAMED THIS, just as in the late 80s some other hacks gave us the original El Nino to NAME a similar type warming trend in the Pacific. Florida may get hit by a hurricane or it may not. Certainly the scientists who are most vested with warning us in time do not have a fcking CLUE. TWICE they had the St. Petersburg area evacuate its barrier islands, only for Gulf storms to slam into the Gulf coast, 100 miles south. So they are little more than just items of entertainment. They have no clue. In the REAL scientific world, warm ocean waters are fuel for hurricanes. If one gets out of Cape Verde and gets past the Windward Islands and Cuba, we're going to be in for a rough ride. And AGAIN, this is water WARMED BY THE SUN, with heat held in by the greenhouse effect, NINETY SEVEN PERCENT OF WHICH IS WATER. Remember, the planet was warmed and cooled AND EVEN FROZEN long before humans came on the scene. In FACT, the Atlantic near FL is now closer to 100F than 90. Quote Southwest Florida meteorologist Matt Devitt of WINK News reported a 98-degree water reading at Everglades National Park's Garfied Bight Station on Wednesday. “One of the hottest readings I've ever seen along our coast,” Devitt tweeted. Quote
Deluge Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 17 hours ago, Moonbox said: Hurricanes are invisible to the naked eye? ? Yes, if the hurricane is out of visual range. Are you not familiar with the concept of visual range, or do you honestly believe nothing happens outside of your own field of awareness? Quote
Deluge Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 17 hours ago, Rebound said: No, you’re just blowing smoke out of your ass. First you said that no-one has kept track of major hurricanes which hit Florida 100-125 years ago, and instead of conceding that isn’t so, you jumped to something else. This is Science versus Make-Believe Nonsense. NASA believes there is overwhelming evidence already of man made climate change due to CO2, and so does Every Single Relevant Major Scientific Organization On Earth. Thousands to top scientists from NASA to Harvard to MIT and on and on… and you have an “opinion.” Backed up by memes and your instinct. Can’t you understand that if your “instinct” is wrong and all those scientists are right… how f-cked we are? Just MAYYYBE… they could be right, and what that means? Actually the smoke is from your ass - well, it's actually gas, and it's worse than smoke. 1. Point out where I said no one kept track of major hurricanes 100 - 125 years ago. We don't move forward until you do. Quote
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