Termites release more CO2 into the atmosphere than humans

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, reason10 said:

The fuel cost of renewable energy is zero.

The tools to create the highly INEFFICIENT wind and solar energy are VERY EXPENSIVE. More expensive than the tools used to create energy from fossil fuels, when one figures cost versus kilowatt hour. The cost of FOSSIL FUELS is ZERO for the raw materials. It costs money to mine them, pump them from the ground, refine them, etc.

The world runs on energy. Factories need energy, and it’s incredibly expensive. When a technology pollutes less, it’s more efficient: It is turning fuel into energy instead of waste.  That’s why it’s superior. Either the US and Canada become the masters of this technology, or else we’ll buy it from someone else.

It's like you never got past the second grade and somehow believe in  unicorns and fairy princesses. Where are you getting the myth that polluting sources are less efficient than today's wind and solar sources? Oil energy lasts as long as there is oil to fuel the power plants. Wind energy only lasts when there is wind. Solar ONLY when the sun is out and there are no clouds. If you are comparing that to coal, natural gas, oil or nuclear power, you SERIOUSLY need to brush up on basic math.

Imagine if the USA owned the critical technology and manufacturing to be the worldwide leader in manufacturing industrial scale solar panels and wind turbines.

This is why nobody takes you liberals seriously. Everything with you is IMAGINE, without actually THINKING about how to bring that about. In the REAL world (where people like me get up and go to work an actual JOB) wind and solar power are in other parts of the planet besides the United States, so obtaining a monopoly on the sales of that equipment is about as possible as Unelected Joe winning a second term when he didn't win the first one.

We would become a mass exporter again. China would replace their coal plants with our wind turbines because they’re cheaper than mining coal and burning it.  That is how we can compete with China. 

Perhaps in 200 years. But not today. (Ironically, it was LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP who made America an exporter of oil, until the unelected Pedophile shut down all oil production.) Right now wind and solar are both more expensive and less efficient. You cannot power a small town with a wind farm the size of Kansas, much less large cities.

Already, many states and nations are rapidly moving to wind and solar power, because it’s highly reliable and far less expensive.  Fifty percent of the electricity generated in Iowa.  Thirty percent of Texas’.

Only in your fairy tale head. To bring your dumb ass up to speed, (since you mentioned Texas)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Texas

Wind power in Texas, a portion of total energy in Texas, consists of over 150 wind farms, which together have a total nameplate capacity of over 30,000 MW (as of 2020).^[1][2] If Texas were a country, it would rank fifth in the world:^[1] The installed wind capacity in Texas exceeds installed wind capacity in all countries but China, the United States, Germany and India. Texas produces the most wind power of any U.S. state.^[1][3] According to the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), wind power accounted for at least 15.7% of the electricity generated in Texas during 2017, as wind was 17.4% of electricity generated in ERCOT, which manages 90% of Texas's power.^[4][5] ERCOT set a new wind output record of nearly 19.7 GW at 7:19 pm Central Standard Time on Monday, January 21, 2019.^[6]

To summarize, Texas has more wind capacity than CHINA and this accounts for FIFTEEN PERCENT of all of that state's power. The rest of it, EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT is fossil fuel. Texas could not power the little town of Beaumont with ALL it's wind farms, much less Houston, Dallas or Austin.

So China ALREADY has a ton of wind farms, and it STILL relies on coal, probably because coal is more consistent and a LOT more efficient. And somehow, RAISING TAXES on the middle class will somehow cause China to want to give up 85 percent of its electricity sources and buy more wind equipment from the United States?

I started to say PLEASE TELL US YOU AREN'T IN CHARGE OF ANYTHING IMPORTANT, but your ENTITLEMENT attitude kinda gives it away what you do with most of your time. And it ISN'T producing anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You quoted obsolete 2017 data pertaining to the wind production in Texas. They have been phasing out coal, and already wind out-produces coal in Texas. 
 

Generating electricity from wind requires a wind turbine and transmission lines.  No digging a mine or a well. No transport of explosive stuff. No staff to fuel the plant.
 

You don’t understand the nature of wind. The wind is always blowing. It does not blow everywhere at once, but with sufficient geographical distribution, it’s always available. Wind farms are situated by using science to measure wind flow at various points over the course of a year or two.  
 

All sources of electric production are subject to down time. 

Edited July 7, 2023 by Rebound

[reason10]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

You quoted obsolete 2017 data pertaining to the wind production in Texas. They have been phasing out coal, and already wind out-produces coal in Texas. 
 

Generating electricity from wind requires a wind turbine and transmission lines.  No digging a mine or a well. No transport of explosive stuff. No staff to fuel the plant.
 

You don’t understand the nature of wind. The wind is always blowing. It does not blow everywhere at once, but with sufficient geographical distribution, it’s always available. Wind farms are situated by using science to measure wind flow at various points over the course of a year or two.  
 

All sources of electric production are subject to down time. 

Produce a current link. Or admit you are wrong about Texas as well as everything else.

What you apparently don't understand is the fact that wind and solar power take a lot of LAND to produce electricity. A LOT of acreage. Oil comes from the ground, in a small area and powers MOST of Texas.

The original fossil fuel cars replaced horses mostly because horse fuel had to be grown on MANY acres of land, whereas oil could be found in a small lot, deep in the ground. And again, Texas has 200 YEARS worth of oil reserves available, enough to power the WHOLE WORLD for that period of time, if we can ever get a legally elected president who doesn't wage war on domestic energy production.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, reason10 said:

Produce a current link. Or admit you are wrong about Texas as well as everything else.

What you apparently don't understand is the fact that wind and solar power take a lot of LAND to produce electricity. A LOT of acreage. Oil comes from the ground, in a small area and powers MOST of Texas.

The original fossil fuel cars replaced horses mostly because horse fuel had to be grown on MANY acres of land, whereas oil could be found in a small lot, deep in the ground. And again, Texas has 200 YEARS worth of oil reserves available, enough to power the WHOLE WORLD for that period of time, if we can ever get a legally elected president who doesn't wage war on domestic energy production.

We have that NOW. Production is UP, approaching an all-time record since the pandemic, because demand is up.

[reason10]

21 hours ago, robosmith said:

We have that NOW. Production is UP, approaching an all-time record since the pandemic, because demand is up.

Demand for ELECTRICITY is up. Unelected Joe CAMPAIGNED on destroying domestic energy production and it's one of the few  promises he kept. And despite his NAZI restrictions, American fossil fuel production is still moving forward. If energy production is expanding it's DESPITE  the Fuhrer Joe.

 

Those THOUSANDS of acres of windmills could not power a small town, much less the entire state. And Texas has a larger wind production than the entire country of CHINA.

So if you somehow think China is going to ditch its coal fired electric plants and buy wind equipment from the United States, you're delusional.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, reason10 said:

Demand for ELECTRICITY is up. Unelected Joe CAMPAIGNED on destroying domestic energy production and it's one of the few  promises he kept. And despite his NAZI restrictions, American fossil fuel production is still moving forward. If energy production is expanding it's DESPITE  the Fuhrer Joe.

 

Those THOUSANDS of acres of windmills could not power a small town, much less the entire state. And Texas has a larger wind production than the entire country of CHINA.

So if you somehow think China is going to ditch its coal fired electric plants and buy wind equipment from the United States, you're delusional.

Oil production is up, to record levels.

China will build their own wind turbines like they are with solar panels.

Makes no sense to import wind turbines cause they are big and heavy.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Oil production is up, to record levels.

China will build their own wind turbines like they are with solar panels.

Makes no sense to import wind turbines cause they are big and heavy.

China exported 11,200 wind turbines to the U.S. in 2021… cause Exxon wouldn’t want the US to invest more and become a leader in a technology which would reduce consumption of a single drop of oil. 

Edited July 8, 2023 by Rebound

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, reason10 said:

Those THOUSANDS of acres of windmills could not power a small town, much less the entire state.

It the US midwest, farmers' crops and wind turbines coexist in the SAME fields. ?

[Rebound]

18 hours ago, reason10 said:

Demand for ELECTRICITY is up. Unelected Joe CAMPAIGNED on destroying domestic energy production and it's one of the few  promises he kept. And despite his NAZI restrictions, American fossil fuel production is still moving forward. If energy production is expanding it's DESPITE  the Fuhrer Joe.

 

Those THOUSANDS of acres of windmills could not power a small town, much less the entire state. And Texas has a larger wind production than the entire country of CHINA.

So if you somehow think China is going to ditch its coal fired electric plants and buy wind equipment from the United States, you're delusional.

Tell us why.

How much electricity does one windmill generate?

How many windmills can fit on one acre?

How much electricity does one small town consume? 
 

According to the European Wind Energy Association:

”An average onshore wind turbine with a capacity of 2.5–3 MW can produce more than 6 million kWh in a year – enough to supply 1,500 average EU households with electricity.
An average offshore wind turbine of 3.6 MW can power more than 3,312 average EU households.”

 

According to the US Census Bureau, a “small town” has a population between 25,000 and 50,000 residents, and an average of 3 people per households, so a small town has between 8,300 and 16,700 households. 
 

8,300 households, divided by 1,500 households per windmill requires 5.5 windmills. Wind is not consistent, so double the number and spread them out. 11 windmills to power a small town. 

Edited July 9, 2023 by Rebound

[Deluge]

On 7/6/2023 at 1:59 PM, Rebound said:

Fake News, as usual. 
 

https://factcheck.afp.com/its-other-way-around-termites-produce-approximately-one-tenth-carbon-dioxide-emissions-created

 

Psst: Just cause somebody says something on the Internet, that doesn’t mean it’s true. Your article has zero citations for the claims it makes.  IOW, it’s all made up, 100% manure. 

Fake Fact Check, as usual. 

Psst: Just because some outfit says they are fact checkers doesn't mean they're actually fact checkers.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/fact-check-fact-checkers-falsely-claim-they-are-fact-checkers

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Fake Fact Check, as usual. 

Psst: Just because some outfit says they are fact checkers doesn't mean they're actually fact checkers.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/fact-check-fact-checkers-falsely-claim-they-are-fact-checkers

Even IF SOME fact checkers are NOT legit, does NOT prove they're ALL FAKE. Duh 

Pretending that they are ALL FAKE, is just a cop out used when you CANNOT disprove the CONTENT of that cite.

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Even IF SOME fact checkers are NOT legit, does NOT prove they're ALL FAKE. Duh 

Pretending that they are ALL FAKE, is just a cop out used when you CANNOT disprove the CONTENT of that cite.

"Fact checking" is just a bullshit cover for woketards.

It's best to not be a lazy f*ck and dig deeper.

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, Deluge said:

"Fact checking" is just a bullshit cover for woketards.

It's best to not be a lazy f*ck and dig deeper.

You first. I've already told you WHY the allegation about termites RELEASING 10x CO2 DOES NOT increase the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Do you understand that?

[Deluge]

43 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You first. I've already told you WHY the allegation about termites RELEASING 10x CO2 DOES NOT increase the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Do you understand that?

There's no need to understand that. 

What's important to understand is that climate change is a hoax. 

[robosmith]

35 minutes ago, Deluge said:

There's no need to understand that. 

What's important to understand is that climate change is a hoax. 

Thanks for confirming YOU DON'T CARE about FACTS cause like a good MAGA CULT member, you make up your own.

Of course, we already knew that.

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for confirming YOU DON'T CARE about FACTS cause like a good MAGA CULT member, you make up your own.

Of course, we already knew that.

You've got it all wrong, diapers, I DO care about FACTS - I care a great deal about them. I just don't care about YOUR idea of facts and the importance you put on them. 

Climate change is a hoax, and no amount of YOUR IDEA of important facts is going to change that. 

Get it? 

[robosmith]

30 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You've got it all wrong, diapers, I DO care about FACTS - I care a great deal about them. I just don't care about YOUR idea of facts and the importance you put on them. 

Climate change is a hoax, and no amount of YOUR IDEA of important facts is going to change that. 

Get it? 

Yes, I "get" that you are a sad Deluginal case of Dunning Kruger belief you know more than EXPERTS while presenting ZERO evidence to support that belief.

Until you get your PhD in climatology AND work in that field for years, your OPINIONS mean NOTHING. ?

[Aristides]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

There's no need to understand that. 

What's important to understand is that climate change is a hoax. 

A hoax. 

Right

 

 

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"It is not only the surface temperature, but the whole ocean is becoming warmer and absorbing energy that will remain there for hundreds of years," WMO said. "Alarm bells are ringing especially loudly because of the unprecedented sea surface temperatures in the North Atlantic."

 

 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Aristides said:

A hoax. 

Right

It's always an easy way to separate the sane from the batshit crazy.

At least then one knows enough not to take anything else they say seriously, either.

[herbie]

On 7/6/2023 at 4:49 PM, Rebound said:

Then again, you and I have never met. 

OMG ..so dry... how British a rebuke. Nice.

[WestCanMan]

On 7/8/2023 at 2:30 PM, Rebound said:

China exported 11,200 wind turbines to the U.S. in 2021… cause Exxon wouldn’t want the US to invest more and become a leader in a technology which would reduce consumption of a single drop of oil. 

Because Biden is a Chinese puppet. 

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, Deluge said:

Fake Fact Check, as usual. 

Psst: Just because some outfit says they are fact checkers doesn't mean they're actually fact checkers.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/fact-check-fact-checkers-falsely-claim-they-are-fact-checkers

"Fact checkers" are just shills for MSM/Dem lies. 

Kamala Harris's father claimed that his own grandmother is descended from a famous slave owner in Jamaica and "fact checkers" call his claim "unproven" just because they can't find the birth records going that far back, but then they throw shade on anyone who has referred to her father's claim. 

I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone who's not able to trace their ancestry back two generations, and his grandma would have known for certain if she was Brown's descendant.

[Aristides]

Like when did facts matter.

[Rebound]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

"Fact checkers" are just shills for MSM/Dem lies. 

Kamala Harris's father claimed that his own grandmother is descended from a famous slave owner in Jamaica and "fact checkers" call his claim "unproven" just because they can't find the birth records going that far back, but then they throw shade on anyone who has referred to her father's claim. 

I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone who's not able to trace their ancestry back two generations, and his grandma would have known for certain if she was Brown's descendant.

Two generations?

Her father’s grandmother is four generations, and the claim is that someone four generations back is a “descendent” of someone.  Yeah… that’s pretty sketchy. It is also irrelevant. There are probably 50,000 Americans descended from the Mayflower pilgrims, but they aren’t better or worse or more entitled than anybody else.  If your great-grandad was Old Man Molson himself, it doesn’t make you better. You’re responsible for your own actions. 

[Deluge]

13 hours ago, Aristides said:

A hoax. 

Right

Where did all that water go? 

[Aristides]

19 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Where did all that water go? 

What is it don't you understand about sea ice?