Study shows suicide/psychiatric conditions higher in trans genders.

[reason10]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/landmark-study-shows-suicide-psychiatric-conditions-much-higher-in-transgender-people

Landmark Study Shows Suicide, Psychiatric Conditions Much Higher In Transgender People

A new Danish landmark study finds that suicide rates and psychiatric conditions are much higher among trans-identifying people.

Trans-identifying people in Denmark had a suicide death rate 3.5 times higher and a suicide attempt rate 7.7 times higher than people who did not identify as transgender, according to the study, which was published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

There were 92 suicide attempts and 12 suicide deaths among the study’s 3,759 trans-identifying people between 1980 and 2021.

The study analyzed the medical and legal gender change records of nearly seven million people in Denmark, including the nearly 3,800 transgender people, over the last four decades.

Trans-identifying people also tended to die younger overall, whether by suicide or something else, the study found.

However, suicide rates in both groups decreased over the four decades the study examined.

“Results suggest that transgender individuals had significantly higher rates of suicide attempt, suicide mortality, suicide-unrelated mortality, and all-cause mortality compared with the nontransgender population,” the study said.

Meanwhile, the rate of psychiatric conditions was higher for the trans-identifying group.

Transgenderism is a mental illness,  plain and simple.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255

Gender dysphoria is the feeling of discomfort or distress that might occur in people whose gender identity differs from their sex assigned at birth or sex-related physical characteristics.

Gender dysphoria might cause adolescents and adults to experience a marked difference between inner gender identity and assigned gender that lasts for at least six months. The difference is shown by at least two of the following:

• A difference between gender identity and genitals or secondary sex characteristics, such as breast size, voice and facial hair. In young adolescents, a difference between gender identity and anticipated secondary sex characteristics.
• A strong desire to be rid of these genitals or secondary sex characteristics, or a desire to prevent the development of secondary sex characteristics.
• A strong desire to have the genitals and secondary sex characteristics of another gender.
• A strong desire to be or to be treated as another gender.
• A strong belief of having the typical feelings and reactions of another gender.

When in doubt, trust the science.

 

[Michael Hardner]

Sad situation.  Based on this, they really need our sympathy it seems.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sad situation.  Based on this, they really need our sympathy it seems.

Of course, trans suffer emotional distress.

The largest contributing factor is persecution, mostly by right wing "pious" lDIOTS.

[herbie]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The largest contributing factor is persecution, mostly by right wing "pious" lDIOTS.

Driving them to it. Then pretending their gender identity was the cause.

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

Driving them to it. Then pretending their gender identity was the cause.

I think that it's an effect.

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

Some source publication.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/

[Guest]

Aren't they highly represented regarding autism?

[reason10]

22 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sad situation.  Based on this, they really need our sympathy it seems.

Nope. They need psychiatric help. They are crazy. And they are a week or two away from committing sex crimes. Not all of them will do the right thing and end it. Some of them will put on dresses and dance in front of children at blue state elementary schools.

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

Of course, trans suffer emotional distress.

The largest contributing factor is persecution, mostly by right wing "pious" lDIOTS.

Transsexuality IS A MENTAL DISEASE. It is called GENDER DYSPHORIA.

People who work for a living and make up the majority of America (in other words, mainstream conservatives)  had NOTHING to do with these trannies going off the deep end.

[reason10]

17 hours ago, herbie said:

Driving them to it. Then pretending their gender identity was the cause.

Decent people who disagree with men who dress up as women and want to have sex with children is NOT the reason for trannies killing themselves. They are just sick people. They need psychiatric help. And they need to be kept away from children.

[Michael Hardner]

Since this topic is about general health and mental health, people should defer to experts and not be so arrogant as to post their opinion, as though that means anything.  Quell your ego a little and be a good citizen  

[OftenWrong]

11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Since this topic is about general health and mental health, people should defer to experts and not be so arrogant as to post their opinion, as though that means anything.  Quell your ego a little and be a good citizen  

I don't see any big problem with the posts so far. On topic and not breaking any rules.

The question is valid in that it was not more than a few decades ago that being a homo was considered a psychiatric illness, by experts.

Now we see that it's still a problem, suicide rates as well as other non-suicide deaths. On other words, diseases. Like the good old book would teach us, live a clean life, live longer and be happier.

Doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for those born with this condition. Quell your ego.

[Nationalist]

@Michael Hardner I think most have sympathy for the trans population. Hell I'd bet many could claim sympathy for criminals. I've never thought the question of this equality and equity rage boiled down to a question of sympathy. More I think it boils down to the level of sympathy. The importance of it to any given individual. The lengths each individual is willing to go to, in order to express said sympathy with help.

For instance...has it been reasonable, considering the small size of the trans population in terms of percent, to force people to call men women? Was that called for?

Meh...its a complicated issue because of individual reaction to their sympathy. Its a lot like racism discussions. Its not a question of "Are you racist?"...the honest answer would be "Yes." Yet the crux of the issue is rather 'How does one manage their inherent racist tendencies...their reactions to such stimuli. Rationally or...over the top?'

Edited June 30, 2023 by Nationalist

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

1. I don't see any big problem with the posts so far. On topic and not breaking any rules.

2. The question is valid in that it was not more than a few decades ago that being a homo was considered a psychiatric illness, by experts.

3. Now we see that it's still a problem, suicide rates as well as other non-suicide deaths. On other words, diseases. Like the good old book would teach us, live a clean life, live longer and be happier.

4. Doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for those born with this condition. Quell your ego.

1. I had to unblock a poster to see this statement, which is at the minimum factually wrong and possibly hate speech depending on your jurisdiction: "They are crazy. And they are a week or two away from committing sex crimes."

The problem is that conservatism strayed from doubting/questioning authority to denying it outright.  To me, it's a function of people being raised without the concept of "humility" which also used to be a conservative trait.

2. Correct.  This is the "doubting" part.

3. Ok but the application of these aphorisms to the problem isn't clear to me, or anyone really until we have data.

4. I haven't put anything of myself into this post at all.  Nor have I referred to anything you do either.  I am only defending conservative values such as thoughtfulness, empathy, restraint and respect for the environment.

[reason10]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Since this topic is about general health and mental health, people should defer to experts and not be so arrogant as to post their opinion, as though that means anything.  Quell your ego a little and be a good citizen  

 

Transgender people are mentally ill. Anyone who says otherwise is an idi0t.

[herbie]

Don't ask me not to speak up. Or I'll have to go back for that final semester to get a Psych degree. Dropped out when I decided I didn't like dealing with either stupid people or mental cases (who simply had a valid reason to be that way).

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, reason10 said:

 

Transgender people are mentally ill. Anyone who says otherwise is an idi0t.

Thead closed, thread CLOSED.

[OftenWrong]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

To me, it's a function of people being raised without the concept of "humility" which also used to be a conservative trait.

Both sides are guilty of these sins you accuse them of, and I would be fine with your criticism but for the fact I have seen you give the rabid leftists positive reactions whenever they offend someone you don't like, or have said something that resonates with your (occasionally) illiberal cause.

Just sayin.    

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

"They are crazy. And they are a week or two away from committing sex crimes."

Ok, so he went over the top a little. Blame Trump.  

[Michael Hardner]

50 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Both sides are guilty of these sins you accuse them of, and I would be fine with your criticism but for the fact I have seen you give the rabid leftists positive reactions whenever they offend someone you don't like, or have said something that resonates with your (occasionally) illiberal cause.

Just sayin.    

Ok, so he went over the top a little. Blame Trump.  

The problems of self-focus are not isolated to the right or left. And I think I explained before but sometimes I give a thumbs up without reading the whole thing. Apologies.

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, reason10 said:

 

Transsexuality IS A MENTAL DISEASE. It is called GENDER DYSPHORIA.

No, IT'S NOT. It was PREVIOUSLY classified as a "disorder," and CHANGED to REMOVE the disease stigma.

8 hours ago, reason10 said:

People who work for a living and make up the majority of America (in other words, mainstream conservatives)  had NOTHING to do with these trannies going off the deep end.

BULLSHIT. Anyone who persecutes someone for a condition beyond their control, contributes to the STIGMA surrounding it and the distress felt by the persecuted.

YOU GUYS cause STRESS in those YOU PERSECUTE.

8 hours ago, reason10 said:

Decent people who disagree with men who dress up as women and want to have sex with children is NOT the reason for trannies killing themselves. They are just sick people. They need psychiatric help. And they need to be kept away from children.

Your AMATEUR DIAGNOSIS means NOTHING. Professionals say YOU'RE WRONG.

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

I don't see any big problem with the posts so far. On topic and not breaking any rules.

The question is valid in that it was not more than a few decades ago that being a homo was considered a psychiatric illness, by experts.

Now we see that it's still a problem, suicide rates as well as other non-suicide deaths. On other words, diseases. Like the good old book would teach us, live a clean life, live longer and be happier.

Doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for those born with this condition. Quell your ego.

If you're persecuting those who are doing NO HARM, you're CONTRIBUTING TO their problem, if not the cause.

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

 Professionals say YOU'RE WRONG.

See... I already asked people to cite professionals on here.

But some people just don't see the need.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

@Michael Hardner I think most have sympathy for the trans population. Hell I'd bet many could claim sympathy for criminals. I've never thought the question of this equality and equity rage boiled down to a question of sympathy. More I think it boils down to the level of sympathy. The importance of it to any given individual. The lengths each individual is willing to go to, in order to express said sympathy with help.

For instance...has it been reasonable, considering the small size of the trans population in terms of percent, to force people to call men women? Was that called for?

Meh...its a complicated issue because of individual reaction to their sympathy. Its a lot like racism discussions. Its not a question of "Are you racist?"...the honest answer would be "Yes." Yet the crux of the issue is rather 'How does one manage their inherent racist tendencies...their reactions to such stimuli. Rationally or...over the top?'

Absolutely. There is NO NEED for you to contribute to someone's stress by treating them differently over something of which they have no control.

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

See... I already asked people to cite professionals on here.

But some people just don't see the need.

The DSM-5 changed "disorder" to "dysphoria" to help remove the stigma and damage from misdiagnosis.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

No, IT'S NOT. It was PREVIOUSLY classified as a "disorder," and CHANGED to REMOVE the disease stigma.

 

It's still a mental illness. Sorry - that's what 'dysphoria" is.  And changing a name to address 'stigma' instead of for medical reasons means it's still a disease.

 

[CdnFox]

59 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The DSM-5 changed "disorder" to "dysphoria" to help remove the stigma and damage from misdiagnosis.

Dysphoria is still a mental illness.

 

[OftenWrong]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

sometimes I give a thumbs up without reading the whole thing.

Seems irresponsible. You might want to read the entirety of posts, lest ye be seen giving ups

to outright nazism