Hennen: Why do they hate Trump so much? Do they fear him?

[Nationalist]

25 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

?  Weird.

Did Trump cut defense spending ?

Do the masses who love Trump vs the masses who hate him get their information from NOT the media ?

You CAN make up your mind about Trump based on facts:

-Repugnant personal style
-Incompetence 
-Refusal to listen or accept responsibility
-Deficit spending during good times

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53077829

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-afghanistan-war-withdrawal/

Shall I go on?

Indeed they do. And a lot of them have turned to independent sources because they can identify bullshit.

Facts

- Perhaps the best economy ever

- Energy independence 

- Did not start any wars

- secure border

- Your Rona Vaccine

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 

Shall I go on?

Indeed they do. And a lot of them have turned to independent sources because they can identify bullshit.

Facts

- Perhaps the best economy ever

- Energy independence 

- Did not start any wars

- secure border

- Your Rona Vaccine

Yes please go on and answer the question of whether he CUT the military budget.  I don't honestly know.  You posted two articles about troop withdrawals, which don't answer the question.

Not sure.

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yes please go on and answer the question of whether he CUT the military budget.  I don't honestly know.  You posted two articles about troop withdrawals, which don't answer the question.

Not sure.

Did I say he cut back on military spending? Oops...I didn't. But nice try.

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Did I say he cut back on military spending? Oops...I didn't. But nice try.

Ok... but you were answering my question where I specifically asked if he did ?

So "nice try" on you answering my question with garbled irrelevancies then saying "nice try" when I try to figure out if you answered.  Your cognitive machine has an odd knock to it.

Why do I plunge into my 'ignore' list ?  Why do I do it ?

"Did Trump cut defense spending ?"
"Here's two articles where he did something in Germany and something in Afgnanistan"
"Uh.... you're not answering the question"
"HA HA ON YOU I was NOT answering the question"

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok... but you were answering my question where I specifically asked if he did ?

So "nice try" on you answering my question with garbled irrelevancies then saying "nice try" when I try to figure out if you answered.  Your cognitive machine has an odd knock to it.

Why do I plunge into my 'ignore' list ?  Why do I do it ?

"Did Trump cut defense spending ?"
"Here's two articles where he did something in Germany and something in Afgnanistan"
"Uh.... you're not answering the question"
"HA HA ON YOU I was NOT answering the question"

Mikey...not a very good recovery there.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Meh.   Frankly - it doesn't matter who the "other guy " is, the dems swear he's satan and for the dem leader they'll spend all the money in the world and we'll be broke

That's the way it is.  Regan was one step down from hitler according to the dems, both bushes were warmongers who'd light the world on fire and destroy freedom, etc etc etc. 

It is the way of politics to villify the other guy .

ANd trump is highly entertaining.

 

I remember Zaphod Beeblebrox from the Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy - when he became galactic president everyone was stunned because they thought he'd be terrible at the job - but  what they didn't realize was that the REAL job of president is to entertain the masses and distract their attention away from the people who REALLY made the decisisons   And in that respect he was wildly successful as president

maybe there's a lesson in there somewhere

Yeah, the "lesson" is that you draw lessons from FICTION, mistaking it for reality, AGAIN. LMAO

OTOH, Trump has been a galactic ahole for 70 years. It really didn't matter much outside of NYC until he stuck his nose inside the WH and subjected the entire nation to his aholery; teaching every Republican that no one needs to observe common decency, cause Republican voters will no longer punish them for it, unlike when Nixon did it.

You need to learn HISTORY instead of challenging what you  don't understand.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry kid but you're the one who always demands others provide proof and you never do.  As you are fond of saying:

"useless WIThOUT PROOF!!!!! useless WIThOUT PROOF!!!!!   (beep boop - does not compute... )"

Read up on th history of Trump IF YOU  CARE about the truth. Duh.

Edited June 16, 2023 by robosmith

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Nonsensical bullshit.

You're barking about Trump's personal flaws. WE ALL have personal flaws. Not one of your moronic gripes extend to the entire country. In other words, despite all his personal flaws, Trump never f*cked up the country. Biden, on the other hand, is into shit that hurts ALL of us; he's into open borders and crippling the economy. THAT is the kind of shit we DON'T want from a president. 

And yes you do hate Trump - you hate everything about him. You hate him because that's what leftists do: they hate.

The economy is fine; unlike when Trump killed it with his mismanagement of COVID. The FACT is, you have no idea what happened then cause you weren't paying attention.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

He's hurt leftists, that's for damn sure. I'd say it's been 7 years well spent. 

Biden is just one tweak away from becoming an invalid. How do you think that looks to both allies and non-allies? His mental and physical condition alone reflects badly on this country, and the tired old piece of shit wants a second term. 

No, Trump is bad for leftists, but GREAT for America. We need him back in the Oval Office, badly. 

Biden LOOKS SO GREAT, the entire world has united behind HIS LEADERSHIP to oppose Putin's expansion into Ukraine, and to Putin's horror, NATO has GROWN, thus completely undermining his stated goals for invading Ukraine.

Unfortunate you are so BLINDED by YOUR HATRED for Joe.

Edited June 16, 2023 by robosmith

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's not beyond sense.... they built up an image of Donald Trump via mainstream media and the average person might be convinced that his person is as accomplished, intelligent and wise as they were presented on their TV show.

Trump is NOT a great manager, he just plays one on TV. And nearly everything he touches turns to shit. Trump U being just the most recent of his ventures which went bust.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

they CAN"T trust the press, they definitely can't trust the courts,  they can't trust the intel services, they can't trust the leg, and they should be very dubious about the rest.

Sooo - i mean, that's 5 for 7 he got right... that's not bad  

YOU "can't trust" them because you BELIEVE Trump's BULLSHIT. AKA, you've been conned by a CULT "leader." LMAO

[robosmith]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

"They"...being an establishment that makes billions on military spending...hate Trump because he is not beholden to them. Trump wanted to pull back from policing the world. To make his military strong at home...where it counts.

"They"...being the masses who are repulsed by the guy...have been told they hate Trump daily by a media, owned by the afore mentioned establishment, for a multitude of reasons. None of which make a bunch of sense...but consider the source. It is this group of "They" who can say that the US border is not open...and "They" actually believe that. Contrary to what their own senses tell them.

Et voila...a cult.

National security spending DOES make America STRONG EVERYWHERE. And so does an expanding workforce doing the jobs, like picking vegetables, that Americans won't do.

Edited June 17, 2023 by robosmith

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

There was a notable occurrence when Trump gave a speech at his Taj Mahal hotel in the past. Despite the central theme revolving around the hotel's bankruptcy and his own failure, he adeptly used language that had the potential to deceive the casual observer. While an average person might perceive it as a triumphant media conference, the reality was that it served as an admission of his hotel's financial downfall.

The issue at hand involves both the media and Trump himself, as they both contribute to the problem. It's not solely the population's fault for falling into the trap; the media plays a role by promoting figures like Trump and endorsing mediocrity.

^One of Trump's greatest failures; being only one of a few who could not profit from running  casinos which MINTS MONEY for most owners. LMAO

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

National security spending DOES make America STRONG EVERYEHRE. And so does an expanding workforce doing the jobs, like picking vegetables, that Americans won't do.

Lol...before long you'll be fighting to pay reparations to the decendants of your veggie pickers.

Edited June 16, 2023 by Nationalist

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

?  Weird.

Did Trump cut defense spending ?

Do the masses who love Trump vs the masses who hate him get their information from NOT the media ?

You CAN make up your mind about Trump based on facts:

-Repugnant personal style
-Incompetence 
-Refusal to listen or accept responsibility
-Deficit spending during good times

NOT JUST "deficit spending," but record breaking deficit spending. Some love him just for saving them a few bucks on their taxes, so to them, nothing else matters. My best friend's sister is like that. Member of his CULT.

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...before long you'll be fighting to pay reparations to the decendants of your veggie pickers.

Why would I do that? Unlike black slaves, they're getting paid. Duh.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

That's pretty shortsighted. He certainly antagonized "the left," but the people he really hurt are his most devout followers, who will find themselves increasingly ostracized and marginalized and even more voiceless and than before. When there's nothing left to trust except Trump, and Trump isn't in a position of power, they are left with nothing. -- The rest of the country will not follow them down, and they will not clamber back up, and we must move on without them. 

Not to mention all the money he scammed from them and used to pay HIS OWN EXPENSES (mostly legal). Of course part of the current Jan 6th criminal investigation is now focused on his MISUSE of money he raised off The Big Lie. Almost NONE of it went towards the purpose for which it was allegedly raised and that's WIRE FRAUD.

[WestCanMan]

Biden is the ultimate Dem POTUS. He doesn't have the mental capacity to form a single thought now but he can still read from the tell-uhhhh-prompter. He is controlled from the moment he wakes up until the moment he takes his first nap, then in between naps, and from his last nap until he goes to bed for the night. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53077829

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-afghanistan-war-withdrawal/

Shall I go on?

Indeed they do. And a lot of them have turned to independent sources because they can identify bullshit.

Facts

- Perhaps the best economy ever

- Energy independence 

- Did not start any wars

- secure border

- Your Rona Vaccine

The economy COLLAPSED after Trump's FAILURE to manage the COVID pandemic. We've been left with 1 MILLION EXCESS DEATHS because he thought he could hide it, to serve his campaign interests. Ironically he might have won re-election had he done a competent job of managing the pandemic. ?

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Biden is the ultimate Dem POTUS. He doesn't have the mental capacity to form a single thought now but he can still read from the tell-uhhhh-prompter. He is controlled from the moment he wakes up until the moment he takes his first nap, then in between naps, and from his last nap until he goes to bed for the night. 

You are delusional if you believe ANY POTUS does not read from a teleprompter. It would be incompetent NOT TO.

[Deluge]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Biden LOOKS SO GREAT, the entire world has united behind HIS LEADERSHIP to oppose Putin's expansion into Ukraine, and to Putin's horror, NATO has GROWN, thus completely undermining his stated goals for invading Ukraine.

Unfortunate you are so BLINDED by YOUR HATRED for Joe.

Biden's a woketard, and so is Zelenskyy. Anyone in the world who supports these two degenerates are also woketards. 

I don't hate Joe, I just hate his policies. 

[robosmith]

38 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Biden's a woketard, and so is Zelenskyy. Anyone in the world who supports these two degenerates are also woketards. 

I don't hate Joe, I just hate his policies. 

The alternative to having woken up is remaining ASLEEP.

IOW, your mangling of the meaning is just BULLSHIT and stupid.

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

"They"...being an establishment that makes billions on military spending...hate Trump because he is not beholden to them. Trump wanted to pull back from policing the world. To make his military strong at home...where it counts.

America doesn't police 'the world' because it gives a damn about foreigners. It wants a stable world because that's what's best for its economy in terms of exporting goods and importing raw materials. It wants a stable world because its people move around, millions away from the US at any given moment. It wants to avoid its enemies gaining control over areas of the world that they can then use to help support their move against American power and influence.

The US didn't attack Hitler because he was a mean man. They did it because they knew that if Hitler took over the world they'd come for America next and they didn't want that to happen. America has always preferred to fight its enemies on someone else's shores. But now a certain type of American wants to just let their enemies become more and more powerful, take over the world, and only when they land in Texas or New Hampshire or California consider doing something about it.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Yeah, the "lesson" is that you draw lessons from FICTION, mistaking it for reality, AGAIN. LMAO

 

Only an !diot would think that.  OH!   Right...  Of course.  Sorry.

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

OTOH, Trump has been a galactic ahole for 70 years. It really didn't matter much outside of NYC until he stuck his nose inside the WH and subjected the entire nation to his aholery; teaching every Republican that no one needs to observe common decency, cause Republican voters will no longer punish them for it, unlike when Nixon did it.

You need to learn HISTORY instead of challenging what you  don't understand.

Blah blah blah whine whine cry cry orange man bad.  got it. Yawn.

As i said - Democrats like you always say that the current contender is the worst person since hitler and the world will end if he gets in.  It's just what dems do.

Quote

Read up on th history of Trump IF YOU  CARE about the truth. Duh.

You're drooling again.

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

NOT JUST "deficit spending," but record breaking deficit spending. Some love him just for saving them a few bucks on their taxes, so to them, nothing else matters. My best friend's sister is like that. Member of his CULT.

Why would I do that? Unlike black slaves, they're getting paid. Duh.

You mean they're paying the children? How much?

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

The economy COLLAPSED after Trump's FAILURE to manage the COVID pandemic. We've been left with 1 MILLION EXCESS DEATHS because he thought he could hide it, to serve his campaign interests. Ironically he might have won re-election had he done a competent job of managing the pandemic. ?

Ya I'm sure a bit like you would have voted for Trump.

So you blame Trump for Biden's failure? Lol...Silly bot.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

America doesn't police 'the world' because it gives a damn about foreigners. It wants a stable world because that's what's best for its economy in terms of exporting goods and importing raw materials. It wants a stable world because its people move around, millions away from the US at any given moment. It wants to avoid its enemies gaining control over areas of the world that they can then use to help support their move against American power and influence.

The US didn't attack Hitler because he was a mean man. They did it because they knew that if Hitler took over the world they'd come for America next and they didn't want that to happen. America has always preferred to fight its enemies on someone else's shores. But now a certain type of American wants to just let their enemies become more and more powerful, take over the world, and only when they land in Texas or New Hampshire or California consider doing something about it.

Ya well...no. America's economy is way too dependent on war. Has been for decades. From the formal military, to the production companies, to the mercenaries. American weapons and hired mercenaries are all over the world. It's huge business.

Having all that force inside the homeland would make the nation unassailable. But today their military and financial strength are being diminished. Squandered by an old man and his insane masters.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Because he was clearly unfit for office, a grotesque tv celebrity with no political experience marinated in fraud, bankruptcies and tax evasion. Defeated at the polls, he attempted to overthrow America’s democratic system. It is beyond incredible that a serious political party still supports his bid to finish the job. I suspect Biden would prefer to face Trump than a younger person who knows what they are talking about. 

Edited June 17, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland