CdnFox Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Always a sign that they know they've lost when they try to debate with memes 9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Wow you sure wasted a lot of energy writing that empty diatribe Seriously what a fail on your part They other way you know they've realized they've lost is sad little attempts to salvage their ego like this You've been a loser since the first day you showed up here. But for god's sake, at least have a LITTLE dignity Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
NYLefty Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Aristides said: Per capita, the US has six times more gun fatalities than Canada and four times as many guns. Can't see a connection there? It's hard for ammo sexuals to see anything with their heads that far up their asses Quote
CdnFox Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 Just now, NYLefty said: It's hard for ammo sexuals to see anything with their heads that far up their asses No no - apperently if you suggest a causal relationship you "don't understand statistics" Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
NYLefty Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Deluge said: Just like I was guaranteed to be disappointed about the Roe v Wade decision? Oh, wait.... Will always be legal in free states. Gay marriage also. Scotus just gave the religious Reich the right to impose draconian laws in the shithole states of America 3 hours ago, Deluge said: I don't care how other people live. At least I don't care until other people try to normalize their wrong behaviors, then EVERYONE should care. It's not just a Deluge thing, but a societal thing. Marriage is between man and woman; that's how it's been throughout history and that's how it needs to remain - it's the mark of a healthy, stable society. Define marriage Quote
Aristides Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: No, and only an uneducated dolt would think that commonality is causality. If there was a connection then the death rate would be directly proportional to the guns owned per state - and it isn't even remotely close. Further, proffessor gary mauser's work (which i've posted before ) shows that there's zero correlation between the availability of guns and murder rates. And only a ****** would care about 'gun deaths' vs just 'deaths' - people dying is somehow acceptable to you if it's done with a knife instead? What kind of slimeball makes that argument? You know what kills the most people in BC when it comes to illegal deaths? Drugs. What do the left demand we legalize? Drugs. As long as your arguments are based on fanaticism and factless ideology there will be no change. But hey - at least you get to virtue signal once in a while and that's WAYYY more important than people's lives, right? What kind of fool maintains it is possible to kill 30 people with a knife? Possible maybe but very unlikely. The US has the largest prison population and highest per capita imprisonment rate in the world. It is also one of the very few developed countries that still has capital punishment. You are no one to be calling others fanatics. Edited July 16, 2023 by Aristides Quote
BeaverFever Posted July 16, 2023 Author Report Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Always a sign that they know they've lost when they try to debate with memes They other way you know they've realized they've lost is sad little attempts to salvage their ego like this You've been a loser since the first day you showed up here. But for god's sake, at least have a LITTLE dignity Nope he put up a shitpost as he often does that lacked any substance to which anyone could reply. So a mocking meme was warranted. And you’re one to talk about salvaging egos you’re not able to debate with anyone without resorting to petty generic insults and personal attacks. You’ve got the “petty and spiteful angry little man” schtick down pat, I will give you that, I know its a popular one among conservatives and PP especially. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, Aristides said: What kind of fool maintains it is possible to kill 30 people with a knife? Possible maybe but very unlikely. Sorry but that's happened. But - lets go with something that you'll be able to cope with a little better - how about a truck? The largest mass killing with a truck involved more deaths than the worst mass shooting with a gun by far. Or how do you feel about bombs? Fire bombs and explosives have racked up higher kill counts than guns too. Aircraft? Or how about those who don't kill their victims all at once, like the number one serial killer Luis Garavito - no gun used i believe and he racked up 193 known kills (children mostly), suspected of over 300. I guess those don't matter - after all people aren't REALLY killed unless it's all on the same day right? Do i need to go on? There are as many different ways to kill lots of people as there are people who want to kill lots of people. It is totally possible to kill very large numbers of people with all kinds of things, and it happens regularly. Guns are flashy and get you in the paper lots, so that's what people who want to 'make a show' of it use at the moment, but in other places it's other things. That's why the research shows clearly that the presence of guns does not in any way correlate with the number of murders a country has. Or suicides - the other number the hoplophobic left likes to trot out. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
WestCanMan Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 Leftards, FYI: 1) the majority of those 49,000 deaths, by far, are suicides 2) the vast majority of the deaths that are considered "murder" are committed with handguns, which leftards don't care about. 3) the gun that leftards hate the most, the (I dare not say it), is responsible for less than 1% of those deaths. It's literally like 490 out of 49,000 people that are killed by rifles, not just AR-15s but all rifles combined, including hunting rifles, .22s, bolt-action WWII-era .30 cals, etc. Leftards just like to cite the big number and imply that all of the deaths are by: "AR-FIFTEEEEEEEEEENS!!!!! OMG THEY'RE KILLING EVERYOOOOOOONE! I'M PROBABLY ALREADY DEAD AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IT YEEEEEEET!" Lefties, you don't have to watch the whole hour to get the gist of it. Just watch about 20 minutes of it - that's what you guys sound like. COVIIIIID!..... CARBOOOOOON!.... COWOOOSHUUUUN!.... JAN SIIIIIIIXTH!..... Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
BeaverFever Posted July 16, 2023 Author Report Posted July 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: handguns, which leftards don't care about. Lol what? I always enjoy the portals to alternate realities that you open Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Lol what? I always enjoy the portals to alternate realities that you open The last thing that any leftist wants to talk about is taking guns away from criminals. "That's racist". They just want to take guns away from legal gun-owners. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
BeaverFever Posted July 16, 2023 Author Report Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: t is totally possible to kill very large numbers of people with all kinds of things, and it happens regularly. No, actually mass shootings happen regularly, while the other examples you provided happen quite rarely. Just now, WestCanMan said: The last thing that any leftist wants to talk about is taking guns away from criminals. "That's racist". They just want to take guns away from legal gun-owners. ?Another portal, courtesy of your made up crazy Bullsh1t 1 Quote
Aristides Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Deluge said: Prove it. Prove it? You say it yourself. Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: No, actually mass shootings happen regularly, while the other examples you provided happen quite rarely. ?Another portal, courtesy of your made up crazy Bullsh1t Go get the stats for AR-15 murders/year pal. I know you won't because they're just the smallest fraction of the 49,000 and that disrupts your idjitotic narrative. This is just another of your BS threads that's supposed to titllate googly eyed leftard dimwits, and as usual, you will saty away from the facts and stats and just use the leftard insult of the day: "WAAAAAH, thoas fakks are from a portal! I don wanna tok abowt them. ?" 1 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Aristides Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Go get the stats for AR-15 murders/year pal. I know you won't because they're just the smallest fraction of the 49,000 and that disrupts your idjitotic narrative. This is just another of your BS threads that's supposed to titllate googly eyed leftard dimwits, and as usual, you will saty away from the facts and stats and just use the leftard insult of the day: "WAAAAAH, thoas fakks are from a portal! I don wanna tok abowt them. ?" Like I said, you don't want people to die, you just don't give a shit. Quote
BeaverFever Posted July 16, 2023 Author Report Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Go get the stats for AR-15 murders/year pal. I know you won't because they're just the smallest fraction of the 49,000 and that disrupts your idjitotic narrative. This is just another of your BS threads that's supposed to titllate googly eyed leftard dimwits, and as usual, you will saty away from the facts and stats and just use the leftard insult of the day: "WAAAAAH, thoas fakks are from a portal! I don wanna tok abowt them. ?" Your id1otic bullsh1t is the made-up claim that liberals only care about ARs and not handguns, genius You also don’t grasp that assault weapons like ARs are still disproportionately used in mass killings and are increasingly the weapon of choice in mass killings, having gone from being used in 20% of mass shootings in the 1980s to 67% today. Edited July 16, 2023 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: No, actually mass shootings happen regularly, while the other examples you provided happen quite rarely. No, they don't. Stabbings are common. death by arson is common. And it's believed there are 25 - 50 active serial killers in the US at any time. Most don't use guns. SO in reality - mass killers who don't use guns are are actually MORE common than those who do. Like i said - guns are flashy and get you the headlines in the US so that's what all the popular bad guys want But take away the guns and they use something else. And of course bad guys use them in gangs and such - and those figures are lumped in. The actual number of "Mass shootings" the way most people think of them are small. You're 100 percent wrong. But hey - you get to virtue signal every time there's a killing and you woudln't want to give THAT up right? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted July 16, 2023 Author Report Posted July 16, 2023 7 hours ago, CdnFox said: mass killers who don't use guns are are actually MORE common than those who do. No, not mass killers Mass killings are almost always by firearm. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: No, not mass killers Mass killings are almost always by firearm. But in the cases where other means are used, it's absolutely necessary to publish that case everywhere as evidence that mass shootings are not important and that nothing can be done about them. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Aristides Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 11 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Leftards, FYI: 1) the majority of those 49,000 deaths, by far, are suicides 2) the vast majority of the deaths that are considered "murder" are committed with handguns, which leftards don't care about. Well the US does have the highest gun suicide rate in the world. 7.1 per 100K pop. The next highest is Uruguay at 4.7 per 100K. Canada 1.47 per 100K Firearms homicide rate US 4.0 per 100K pop. Canada 0.5 per 100K Homicide rate in general US 6.8 per 100K. Canada 2.1 per 100K Still can't see a pattern? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: No, not mass killers Mass killings are almost always by firearm. If you kill 100 people you're a mass killer. It's !diotic to suggest otherwise. 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: But in the cases where other means are used, it's absolutely necessary to publish that case everywhere as evidence that mass shootings are not important and that nothing can be done about them. Actually ONLY gun shootings are published everywhere. Man gets knifed to death - local papers, page 37 Man gets shot - front page news. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Well the US does have the highest gun suicide rate in the world. 7.1 per 100K pop. The next highest is Uruguay at 4.7 per 100K. Canada 1.47 per 100K Firearms homicide rate US 4.0 per 100K pop. Canada 0.5 per 100K Homicide rate in general US 6.8 per 100K. Canada 2.1 per 100K Still can't see a pattern? No, there is no pattern there. knife homocides are also higher as are most other forms. And the majority come from violent crime - usually criminal on criminal. So, that says more about the difference in crime rates. Maybe we should ban crime? Lefties: There is more crime in the us. THee's more poverty in the us. There's more gangs in the US. There's less mental health treatment in the US. There's no 'red flag' laws in the US. And there's more guns. So it must be the guns right? I mean - that other stuff COULDN'T POSSIBLY play a role... This is why the death toll will continue. The left wing can't think past their bias and virtue signalling. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Aristides Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 Well, of course there are more things that influence homicide rates than just the number of firearms but not to see any relationship is just plain ignorant. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 13 hours ago, Aristides said: Prove it? You say it yourself. I say what? That I disapprove of most life choices? Where did I say that? I said I disapprove of the homosexual agenda. I don't disapprove of homosexuals or their lifestyle choices, but I do disapprove of their agenda, and part of that agenda has been to redefine lawful marriage - I disapprove of that, and will fight it as long as it exists. Quote
Deluge Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 16 hours ago, NYLefty said: Will always be legal in free states. Gay marriage also. Scotus just gave the religious Reich the right to impose draconian laws in the shithole states of America Define marriage 1. You've got it all backwards. Abortion is legal in anti-freedom Marxist states and so is homosexual marriage. SCOTUS did the right thing in allowing red states (normal states) to make abortion illegal. 2. The correct, traditional definition of marriage is between man and woman. I expect the SC to overturn that God awful 2015 ruling as well. Oh, and there's no bigger shithole than Tenderloin, San Francisco, and that's in the heart of wokejob country. Quote
Deluge Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 17 hours ago, BeaverFever said: That's right, BF, the Left is batshit crazy. I like your honesty. Quote
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