eyeball Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well lets look at ontario - this is the 'toned down' version of it: ? What a back-peddling sack-o-shit liar you are. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) ? 41 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ...the elementary curriculum includes anal and oral sex, what your sexual orientation is, masturbation techiques, how to give consent to someoen else (and that sex is ok as long as you do). etc etc. Along with very explicit onine content showing sexual acts. All to kids under the age of 11. Because we all know 8 year olds REALLY need to understand anal sex. Now you say this curriculum teaches kids how to surf the internet for gay porn? Bullshit. 41 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Next time do a google search on your own - the stuff is everywhere. That's not how it works. BTW from the toned down source you provided Quote Studies have consistently shown that comprehensive sex education leads to a number of positive results, such as decreasing the rates of unintended pregnancies among teenagers.[4][5] A 2007 American review concluded that "no comprehensive program hastened the initiation of sex or increased the frequency of sex, results that many people fear" and that "comprehensive programs worked for both genders, for all major ethnic groups, for sexually inexperienced and experienced teens, in different settings, and in different communities."[6][7] You don't believe your own source - it's lying? Maybe I edited it. ? Edited June 27, 2023 by eyeball ? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ExFlyer Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Businesses are wising up. The hockey league won't force players to wear pride jerseys. Of course - they said NO jerseys (cancer, etc) will be forced. But the left is butthurt over the pride stuff. But look at the comments - i doubt the nhl will suffer over this decision I agree with the NHL As a matter of fact, I do not think we should show favouritism by displaying flags or honouring or parading to anyone or any group for anything. 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: No, that’s not a common problem, of course, and I certainly didn’t mean to give you that impression. Puberty starts subtly with hormonal pulses from the brain long before we need to worry about pregnancy. Sure - and we can probably agree that there comes a time when they need to know about sex too, at least the basics. But not at 8 years old. And not anal technique. Quote At least consider what I have put to you already. How many 12 year olds are masturbating? Do you really believe that masturbation is not sexual? When you talk about bland ancient pamphlets, bear in mind the information many of these kids have already about sex and sexuality. It’s not the same pre-Internet world. No 12 year olds are playing with themselves to climax. Kids touch themselves because it feels good, but it's not sexual. they're not fantasizing about Earnie or Oscar the Grouch catching them bent over with their hand caught in the dryer or something. It's harmless. All they need to know is that it's fine in private but it's not allowed in public. As to the rest - all elementary school kids need to know about their gender identity, the complexity and morality of intercourse, and 'anal technique' is that it's something that adult do and when they're older they're learn about it but they don't need to worry about it now. Now - that's my feeling. If someone else who had kids that age felt that its absolutely critical that 8 year olds understand anal sex then they absolutely can make arrangements for their kids to learn about it. I don't even mind the education system preparing 'modules' that can be taken online or the like that parents can choose to expose their kids to - maybe you think the information about gender identity and masturbation is important for you little boy to learn but don't think he's ready for full on intercourse videos. So they can pick what their kid is ready for and do what they think is best. But teaching it in school? to elementary students? that's a big nope. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Posted June 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I agree with the NHL As a matter of fact, I do not think we should show favouritism by displaying flags or honouring or parading to anyone or any group for anything. We are in agreement. I think it spreads division and animosity to single groups out and pretend they are more special than another group. I think you can represent diversity and such without dividing people. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ironstone Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 21 hours ago, Americana Antifa said: That's not a thing. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find some crazy-ass fringe cases, but that's all. It doesn't mean there's a huge push to actually recognize humans as a different species. What. Is. A. Woman. 2022.720p. : Matt Walsh : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive A great documentary. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Army Guy Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/26/2023 at 3:26 AM, SpankyMcFarland said: Many, many years ago, I was taught about Islam, Buddhism etc. in high school. AFAIK it didn’t harm me irreparably. By the same token, why wouldn’t we teach kids about their peers who are gay? It seems like the prudent thing to do. So you had a few classes on many different types of religions, much like the rest of us, but thats not what we are talking about here...this is about more than a few classes... where any of them mandatory, did you break any human rights by skipping one of those classes, did your province make it a legal requirement you attend... I think a better example of all this , would be when a certain member here preaches about religion, and some how references it to every topic, people get tired of here it... i think every member on here has told this person the same thing over and over again... most on here have reached their LGBTQ limit... we all get it you want to be a pink unicorn then fine... have a great time doing so...but as soon as you drag me into your fantasy then thats when i have a problem... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: I agree with the NHL As a matter of fact, I do not think we should show favouritism by displaying flags or honouring or parading to anyone or any group for anything. Now if we could get the governments, and all of its departments to do the same thing we would be laughing... 2 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 9 hours ago, eyeball said: It's based on some science along with politics and choice. You live in a world where banks, major corporations and governments of all levels accept the existence of a people that cannibalize a resurrected zombie every Sunday morning. They claim that wine and bread are transformed into blood and flesh by a clearly unscientific means. These people receive millions upon millions of dollars from public funding to help indoctrinate children all around the world. Sane people have been saying wtf for centuries but to no apparent avail or effect. Best to just put on your finest evening gown a tiara and sing a rousing round of let it go, Let It Go, LET IT GO!!! It has no science to it at all...it's all about a lobby group having political power because we the people gave it to them. And are to afraid to take some of it back... Is that what they told you, the wine and bread transforms in flesh and blood... "right before your eyes"....been awhile since you gone to a catholic church... well it's not science at all it's magic...not that it matters... Damn religion, what did it ever give us, a lot of our moral values, a lot of our laws, the fact that most of the country was built along side of religion it was at one time one of the pillars we depended on... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Damn religion, what did it ever give us, a lot of our moral values, a lot of our laws, the fact that most of the country was built along side of religion it was at one time one of the pillars we depended on... Religion, thousands years of it, also left a deeply ingrained capacity for suspending disbelief in the face of irrefutable evidence or none whatsoever depending on whatever the circumstances call for. And depended on it for what, the fear of God to keep indoctrinators on the straight and narrow? Pffft. I see no reason not to believe a lot of humans had morality figured out a long time before religion co-opted it to put a better spin on their program. Edited June 28, 2023 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 Hey @eyeball Here's some more teachers totally NOT giving kids hard core sex information in grade school . https://globalnews.ca/news/5434861/apology-creston-elementary-school-students-graphic-sex-ed/ It includes sections on various sex acts, and allegedly uses graphic slang language for the sexual activities. Story continues below advertisement It also contains tips on how to reduce the chances of passing HIV or Hepatitis C while using recreational drugs during sex. “If you snort drugs, use your own straw or bumper. Rolled-up sticky notes make single-use, disposable straw,” is one example in the safe sex on drugs section. Tertina Sandre is a parent of a grade 6 boy at the school.“He said, ‘mom, look, they are teaching us about finger f****** at school and I was just like, ‘pardon me?’ and I confiscated the book,'” she told Global News. “Let me ask you then when you are putting your child to bed and instead of ‘good night love you’ I get ‘mom why would someone want someone to stick their fist up their a** or lick it,’” said one mother on a community Facebook page. Totally appropriate for elementary school children right? Now they say it was 'accidentally' distributed. Which means they "accidentally" bought and paid for them, "accidentally" looked at them and got them ready to be handed out and "accidentally" gave them to all the kids. There's no accident there. It's an elementary only school, it's not like they ordered it for older kids and got the boxes mixed up. They did it and figured they'd just apologize later. Nobody's getting fired over it. Any more comments you'd like to share about how this is totally appropriate? You and your leftie friends are some pretty sick puppies. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, CdnFox said: They did it and figured they'd just apologize later. Nobody's getting fired over it. Any more comments you'd like to share about how this is totally appropriate? You and your leftie friends are some pretty sick puppies. Sure, I'd like to see your evidence that this was as deliberate as you're alleging. You people keep pointing at random unconnected instances of incompetence or some overzealous bureaucrat/educator as proof of a competently planned and executed plot...to groom an entire generation of kids. You do realize what grooming means right - its to seduce a kid into having a secret intimate relationship with an adult. You're trying to draw direct parallels between entire provincial educational systems and people like Ghislaine Maxwell. No doubt this is entangled with other crazy notions you people have about WEF, globalism and aliens from Alpha Proxima. You're all out of your freaking minds. How long will it be until you folks come up with an anti-gay vaccine? Edited June 28, 2023 by eyeball 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, I'd like to see your evidence that this was as deliberate as you're alleging. Ok. They had to deliberately place an order - so they must have known what they were ordering. They even had to pay for it. It is beyond reason to believe they randomly ordered these without looking at what they were ordering. This isn't even an authorized educational material, someone CHOSE to order THIS specific pamphlet. Then they would have received it. They would have had to open the box to see what it was and to prepare to hand it out. It is beyond credibility to believe they just got a box, closed their eyes, said "i'm sure this is the pamphlets for the kids, no need to check, we'll just distribute it straight from the box without looking." So they must have been aware of what was in it. And it's not plausable that when they were handing it out or preparing to nobody actually looked at it again. That is not reasonable. So - you explain to me how all that could have happened by 'accident' and then we'll talk. The burden is on them (and you) to explain that. They're the ones claiming 'accident'. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, I'd like to see your evidence that this was as deliberate as you're alleging. You people keep pointing at random unconnected instances of incompetence or some overzealous bureaucrat/educator as proof of a competently planned and executed plot...to groom an entire generation of kids. You do realize what grooming means right - its to seduce a kid into having a secret intimate relationship with an adult. You're trying to draw direct parallels between entire provincial educational systems and people like Ghislaine Maxwell. No doubt this is entangled with other crazy notions you people have about WEF, globalism and aliens from Alpha Proxima. You're all out of your freaking minds. How long will it be until you folks come up with an anti-gay vaccine? Oh - and i notice, not one word from you that it wasn't appropriate material. What was it you were asking before? If they were trying to make it look fun? They're going over the best ways to enjoy drugs while fisting apparently - sounds lika like they were. Sounds like you approve of this type of material. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Oh - and i notice, not one word from you that it wasn't appropriate material. What was it you were asking before? If they were trying to make it look fun? They're going over the best ways to enjoy drugs while fisting apparently - sounds lika like they were. Sounds like you approve of this type of material. I think I'd probably agree it was questionable material for kids that young. Some could probably handle it but probably not everyone. And it looks more like the material is intended to differentiate between unsafe practices from safer ones without saying anything at all about having fun. That aspect is strictly a matter of your panicked imagination and obvious attempt to link it all together with your grooming conspiracy malarkey. Edited June 28, 2023 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Zeitgeist Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 16 hours ago, eyeball said: Religion, thousands years of it, also left a deeply ingrained capacity for suspending disbelief in the face of irrefutable evidence or none whatsoever depending on whatever the circumstances call for. And depended on it for what, the fear of God to keep indoctrinators on the straight and narrow? Pffft. I see no reason not to believe a lot of humans had morality figured out a long time before religion co-opted it to put a better spin on their program. What do you make of the fact that religious people are pointing to biological fact in the gender debate? Quote
CdnFox Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, eyeball said: I think I'd probably agree it was questionable material for kids that young. Some could probably handle it but probably not everyone. So - you figure that some 10 year olds could really benefit from learning about fisting and how to safely do drugs while having sex. Not all, but some. I mean as a parent if you want to teach your 10 year old about fingerbanging just in case their friends and them decide to do it (especially while doing drugs) then i guess that's your choice. But in the real world this isn't "questionable" material for 6-10 year olds - it's just out and out wrong. Period. You don't teach that stuff to children. You don't suggest that it's ok to do illegal drugs while having sex to 7 year olds. There's no 'Question" in the minds of most parents. Well - at least we know where you stand. You're "Iffy" on teaching kids about how to do drugs and fingerbang each other or fisting. Not AGAINST it per se.. some would benefit.. but it's a grey area for you. THe left can never be allowed to raise our children, ever. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 54 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So - you figure that some 10 year olds could really benefit from learning about fisting... THe left can never be allowed to raise our children, ever. Yup, there it is, kids and sex and what have you has got f**k all to do with your agenda. This is just a partisan du jure thing. There's no conviction, just a passing opportunity for a little moral entrepreneurialism. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 17 hours ago, eyeball said: Religion, thousands years of it, also left a deeply ingrained capacity for suspending disbelief in the face of irrefutable evidence or none whatsoever depending on whatever the circumstances call for. And depended on it for what, the fear of God to keep indoctrinators on the straight and narrow? Pffft. I see no reason not to believe a lot of humans had morality figured out a long time before religion co-opted it to put a better spin on their program. Yes because our history clearly shows we were very good at adopting good morality practices, like the Roman games, WWI where we sent thousands to die each day, or WWII where millions of Jews were fed to the ovens...I think we need all the help we can get when it comes to morality and values... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I think we need all the help we can get when it comes to morality and values... I think so too and I think that would be better achieved by eschewing religions because of the suspension of disbelief they all-too-often require. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yup, there it is, kids and sex and what have you has got f**k all to do with your agenda. The "agenda" of don't let the left teach your kids to FingerF**k at the age of 8? Yeah - i was pretty clear on that at the beginning. Thanks for paying attention. Quote This is just a partisan du jure thing. There's no conviction, just a passing opportunity for a little moral entrepreneurialism. Sure - people don't REALLY care about their children and they're perfectly fine with their 9 year old fisting the neighbour's kid at 8 years old. This is just a passing fancy. Go with that. You're not always an !diot - but damn when you go there, you really lean into it. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: I think so too and I think that would be better achieved by eschewing religions because of the suspension of disbelief they all-too-often require. People have been trying to get rid of Christianity and judeism for something close to 2000 years now. And muslims for at least half that time. I have to say - it's not looking good. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/25/2023 at 11:20 AM, Army Guy said: Actually no one really cares what you want to call yourself in private, you could identify as a pink unicorn for all that it matters....where they disagree is forcing them to play along in their fantasy world, The problem is that so many people want to push them into a closet - which is why they're pushing back. Like I said there is a fairly straightforward, no pun intended, link between the desires of you stay-in-the-closet bunch and everyone else who's saying f**k that. You're effectively causing the changes you're so opposed to. I just wish we could effectively harness the same force when it comes to the need for more progress to address the climate change we're causing. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 47 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The "agenda" of don't let the left teach your kids to FingerF**k at the age of 8? Yeah - i was pretty clear on that at the beginning. Thanks for paying attention. Nope, you made it clear exactly where I said you did, well where you said. You never pay attention to how obvious you make it. ...the left...? As if that's got anything to do with anything. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, eyeball said: Nope, you made it clear exactly where I said you did, well where you said. You never pay attention to how obvious you make it. ...the left...? As if that's got anything to do with anything. Oh look, the Lefty loser has to rewrite what I said again in order to have an argument. I stand by what I said. The left and you are both complete Retards if you think that Parents are going to just magically not care about their children being educated in this fashion or that this is some sort of political agenda. But hey, maybe you can rewrite it so that what I really said was "let's kill all the Jews". If you're going to lie about what I said, and you frequently do, you might as well go all in. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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