Americana Antifa Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Where do you get all your info from? Who's rich in Venezuela? What do "the workers" have control of in Venezuela? Maybe things like: how many bugs they feed their kids....? OMG. Venezuela never tried socialism. The government just called itself "socialist" like North Korea calls itself a republic. Didn't I already explain this to you? Don't judge governments by labels. Just them by what they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: And Venezuela too, right? How about if you stop reading romance novels about socialism and read some history books instead? You don't know what socialism is. Socialism requires democracy. Any country that claims to be socialist but does not have democratic elections is not socialist. 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: It does, you just can't do math because you're leftarded. Look up any study on immigration in America. You'll find that the rates consistently rise regardless of who the president is. 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: FYI the GOP aren't cruel at all. Now you're just being an 1d10t. You don't think the family separations were needlessly cruel? 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: El faceplant. You didn't address my point on coded language because you can't. You see there that I was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Deluge said: There's nothing wrong with having power and influence if you're not using it to f*ck other people over. Sure, but that's like saying having a dictatorship is fine as long as we have a good dictator. The reason America has so many checks and balances is because we don't want anyone to have a disproportionate amount of power in the government. Well, we also shouldn't have a disproportionate amount of power in the overall population. We shouldn't have these multibillionaires that rig the system to make themselves richer while everyone else gets poorer. 8 hours ago, Deluge said: Capitalism works. Evil a$$holes don't work. Like I said before, capitalism always leads to "crony capitalism." Just like a society without democracy will always lead to authoritarianism. We have to accept that in a system that gives near unlimited power to certain people, those people will rig the game. 8 hours ago, Deluge said: See, your problem is that you want government to control everything all of the time. For some weird, stupid reason, you think government is wise and judicious enough to decide who gets what and when. That will never fly in this country. Now if that was true, don't you think I would be against democracy? I want the opposite of what you're saying. I want to spread wealth and power throughout society. I don't want rich people to buy and sell politicians so that the government only works for them. I want a society where the workers have more control of the government. It's no coincidence that the most capitalist countries in the world are also the most authoritarian. The more social inequality we have, the less freedom we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: You don't think the family separations were needlessly cruel? If you don't understand the concept of liability, then it makes sense that you wouldn't understand why family separations were necessary. What do you think happens when a mom and 4 kids are incarcerated together? Or a dada and 4 kids? Do you think they can keep them safe in a prison-type scenario? Family separation is an inconvenience for people who were breaking the law, but from the POV of the people who are taking the children into their custody, thereby assuming responsibility for them, it's easier to deal with/detain adults and children separately. Just remember, leftards already freaked out when Trump did the exact same thing that Obama did, can you imagine if he did things differently, and children ended up getting raped by grown men? Question: When people smuggle children across the border and no one has ID, how do you know whose children they really are? Here's somethin' that you don't see every day: When Obama was president, kids who were brought across the border by human traffickers were separated initially, and then given back to the traffickers when they left. How bad is that? If Trump did that it would have been "BIGGER THAN WATERGATE! COMPARABLE TO 9/11 AND PEARL HARBOUR!" https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/ Even Snopes can't deny it, and you know they wanted to. Quote You didn't address my point on coded language because you can't. You see there that I was right. I didn't watch your conspiracy video, no. I already know how stupid it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 46 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: OMG. Venezuela never tried socialism. The government just called itself "socialist" like North Korea calls itself a republic. Didn't I already explain this to you? Don't judge governments by labels. Just them by what they do. Everyone who wants to control all of the money in a country calls themselves socialist. Do you think they say: "Elect me and I'll get rich while you end up eating your family pets feeding your kids bugs"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: Everyone who wants to control all of the money in a country calls themselves socialist. Do you think they say: "Elect me and I'll get rich while you end up eating your family pets feeding your kids bugs"? Again, stop learning about socialism from memes. Socialism requires democracy. In a socialist country, no one person would control all the money. We would elect people based on what they want to use our taxes for, just like now. In fact, I'd like to have more democracy. I think we should regularly have direct votes on policies like Switzerland does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: If you don't understand the concept of liability, then it makes sense that you wouldn't understand why family separations were necessary. What do you think happens when a mom and 4 kids are incarcerated together? Or a dada and 4 kids? Do you think they can keep them safe in a prison-type scenario? Yes. Biden ended the family separations and it hasn't caused any problems. 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Just remember, leftards already freaked out when Trump did the exact same thing that Obama did, can you imagine if he did things differently, and children ended up getting raped by grown men? Dude, please do yourself a favor and step out of your bubble. Leftists hate Obama. This is what happens when you only watch mainstream media. You think the Obama, Hillary, and Biden are on the Left. 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I didn't watch your conspiracy video, no. I already know how stupid it is... It literally has the original recording. You're legit just covering your ears and singing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: Socialism requires democracy. The most dense comment you've made in some time. And it had pretty stiff competition. Socialism is the death of democracy. It requires there be no democracy. It will tolerate the apperence of democracy to a degree but it cannot exist for long with actual democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: Yes. Biden ended the family separations and it hasn't caused any problems. Ahem. Jan. 19, 2022 – The National Immigrant Justice Center (NIJC) reports that the Biden administration is routinely separating families through detention and deportation as part of its interior immigration enforcement practices. People still forced to wait in Mexico for their immigration hearings in the U.S. are subject to kidnappings, assault and murder, and Haitian families, including young babies, face mass expulsions back to a destabilized country. NIJC also reports that the Biden administration has moved to dismiss claims brought by separated families seeking compensation for the harm the policy has caused. https://www.splcenter.org/news/2022/03/23/family-separation-timeline#2022 So by "got rid of it" you mean 'is still doing it and it's a major problem." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 it is interesting reading/hearing how folks think of the word, "socialism" now as compared to how Marx used it in Das Kapital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, impartialobserver said: it is interesting reading/hearing how folks think of the word, "socialism" now as compared to how Marx used it in Das Kapital. Marx didn't invent socialism or communism. He just popularized his own version of these concepts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: Marx didn't invent socialism or communism. He just popularized his own version of these concepts. Well it depends on your definiton - which we know you change on the fly to try to make it fit whatever point your trying to lie about at the time Marx didn't invent collective groups. He did invent what we know of as communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 8:54 AM, Americana Antifa said: I'd say a nazi is someone who believes in biological essentialism and conspiracy theories based on the "cultural bolshevism" of the original Nazi Party. As for reason10, he never gave a straight definition like I just did. I'm guessing he just uses the term as an insult for anyone who is progressive on some issues. Which is kind of funny, since you could then argue that Trump is a nazi. See? You're unable to provide a definition for what makes someone a nazi. Nazis are just anyone you disagree with. Asked and answered. On 5/23/2023 at 5:22 PM, Michael Hardner said: I think he's sincere but like many, he can't separate fact from opinion and if you ask him to back up an opinion he thinks you're saying he's lying or something. I don't have anything against these people but they don't understand what a discussion forum is for. I get called a liar, even though they continue to respond to me. i get told I get all my news from CTV and CNN ... There's really nothing to talk about, so ... IGNORE is your friend. Open the crypt door, nudge them in, then close it. Everything I post is fact. But if you want an opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, reason10 said: Asked and answered. Everything I post is fact. But if you want an opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WestCanMan Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 13 hours ago, Americana Antifa said: Yes. Biden ended the family separations and it hasn't caused any problems. Kid cages weren't a problem either while Obama was president, right? Nor were human traffickers? The Afghan withdrawal was a smashing success and no Americans were left behind, right? There was no inflation, remember? Fetterman was perfectly capable of doing his job even though he couldn't understand English, right? I'm pretty sure that you don't know where I'm going with this so I'll spell it out for you... Even if kids are getting pimed out, raped and murdered right now, your sources will tell you that everything is so perfect that the kids want to stay there. Quote Dude, please do yourself a favor and step out of your bubble. Leftists hate Obama. You will just lie your face off like it's not even a thing. So weird. Quote This is what happens when you only watch mainstream media. You think the Obama, Hillary, and Biden are on the Left. It literally has the original recording. You're legit just covering your ears and singing now. You're gross AA. Your lying and stupidity are boundless. I am gaining new insight into the mind of a domestic terrorist though. It's absurd how programmable you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 6:38 PM, WestCanMan said: I'll get you started... Why do you consistently post evidence that 10% of unvaccinated Canadians are responsible for half the deaths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Americana Antifa said: Sure, but that's like saying having a dictatorship is fine as long as we have a good dictator. There's no such thing as a good dictator. See, it's stupid examples like the one you made above that gets you kicked to the curb. The truth is, American Antifa, there's no room for people like you in civilized society. You're an America hating degenerate. My recommnedation is that you get your ass back to Portland and continue with that CHOP bullshit - it's what suits you best, by far. Edited May 26, 2023 by Deluge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 39 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Kid cages weren't a problem either while Obama was president, right? Nor were human traffickers? I criticized Obama for that too. Just because the Democrats are less cruel than the Republicans does not mean they don't have moments of cruelty too. Obama's foreign policy was also horrific. 39 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The Afghan withdrawal was a smashing success and no Americans were left behind, right? There was no inflation, remember? Fetterman was perfectly capable of doing his job even though he couldn't understand English, right? This is all deflection mixed with lies. 39 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I'm pretty sure that you don't know where I'm going with this so I'll spell it out for you... Even if kids are getting pimed out, raped and murdered right now, your sources will tell you that everything is so perfect that the kids want to stay there. So unlike you, I'm not in a political bubble. I watch plenty of media that condemned Obama and other Democrats for the right-wing things they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 16 hours ago, West said: And pull the rest of us to participate in their perversions This is true. Misery loves company, and these perverts want a whole lot of company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Deluge said: There's no such thing as a good dictator. See, it's stupid examples like the one you made above that gets you kicked to the curb. The truth is, American Antifa, there's no room for people like you in civilized society. You're an America hating degenerate. My recommnedation is that you get your ass back to Portland and continue with that CHOP bullshit - it's what suits you best, by far. You completely deflected from all my points because you know I'm correct. Capitalism essentially creates an oligarchy where the 1% have much greater control of the government than the rest of us. If we want more freedom and power for the workers, we need to reduce the enormous economic inequality that we now have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: You completely deflected from all my points because you know I'm correct. You don't get it. You don't have any points. You lead off with a dumbass example like the one in your last post, and it gets everything dismissed. You have nothing of value to bring to this conversation. Edited May 26, 2023 by Deluge 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Deluge said: You don't get it. You don't have any points. You lead off with a dumbass example like the one in your last post, and it gets everything dismissed. You have nothing of value to bring to this conversation. I explained in detail why capitalism creates a rigged system that reduces freedom and power for the workers. You can't address any of that because you know I'm right. So instead, you just deflected and autistically screeched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: I explained in detail why capitalism creates a rigged system that reduces freedom and power for the workers. You can't address any of that because you know I'm right. So instead, you just deflected and autistically screeched. You gave your opinion in detail but it doesn't amount to shit. You're not worth considering. Go back to Portland and try to revive CHOP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Deluge said: You gave your opinion in detail but it doesn't amount to shit. You're not worth considering. Go back to Portland and try to revive CHOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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