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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure kid.

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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You must want to murder children then

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6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That just means you want people dead.

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6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

What does it matter? You don't care about the deaths, all you care about is pretending that people want to see their children murdered so you can virtue signal

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7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well the quilters love their children you see. Republicans only speak to people who want their children dead

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7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

they absolutely do. 100 percent.  Look at you as an example - your default position is that anyone who believes in gun rights is happy to see children die. That's LITERALLY your take on it. That they're just fine with their children being dead if they can keep their guns. So already we know you're dishonest about your position when you claim that you've got nothing against gun owners or that you think allowing them to keep guns is ok - and the dems in the us are even worse.

No they don't.  You know they don't, so it's difficult to imagine what your point is with such nonsense.

The Americans in the US who oppose guns would be ecstatic to get Canadian gun control laws.

 

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's the only position they can take in the face of the dems who want to ban  every single gun.

But of course according to you they're ok with their kids being killed so maybe you think the dems should take their kids too?

It's not possible to have a rational discussion about firearms issues with the likes of you,

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6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure sure - well as you know anyone who isn't on the left and doesn't hate guns the way you do is actually a baby killer anyway so there you go. Now that you've cleared the air about that i'm sure there'll be progress with the talks.

Like I said, just your pitiful excuse to do nothing.

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3 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

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Yeah - that's about the level of intelligence i'd expect.

3 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No they don't.  You know they don't, so it's difficult to imagine what your point is with such nonsense.

Of course they do. They absolutely do, there is no debate.

It's easy to see your point tho - lie about it to pretend it's not true because admitting it is means the republicans are right to be concerned,

I tell you what - you tell me exactly where they'll stop with gun bans and where they'd say "no problems with any of these guns and we'll guarantee that" - and then we'll talk

3 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

The Americans in the US who oppose guns would be ecstatic to get Canadian gun control laws.

As a starting place yes - and we just banned more guns. Most of which had never been a problem in canada. And trudeau tried to ban hunting guns and specifically said " a gun that could be used for hunting AND could be misused should be banned".  Well - that's any gun.

So that was a knd of a dumb thing to say - 'The democrats dont' want to ban guns -they want what canada has. More gun bans"

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1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Like I said, just your pitiful excuse to do nothing.

Right right - anyone who doesn't agree with you loves to see babies die. Keep going, i'm sure any moment gun owners will cave and want to talk gun laws with people as reasonable as you and the democrats. Proving you hate people always gets them interested in discussions.

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1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah - that's about the level of intelligence i'd expect.

I was just reciprocating.

 

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Of course they do. They absolutely do, there is no debate.

It's easy to see your point tho - lie about it to pretend it's not true because admitting it is means the republicans are right to be concerned,

I tell you what - you tell me exactly where they'll stop with gun bans and where they'd say "no problems with any of these guns and we'll guarantee that" - and then we'll talk

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3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As a starting place yes - and we just banned more guns. Most of which had never been a problem in canada. And trudeau tried to ban hunting guns and specifically said " a gun that could be used for hunting AND could be misused should be banned".  Well - that's any gun.

So that was a knd of a dumb thing to say - 'The democrats dont' want to ban guns -they want what canada has. More gun bans"

Sure, Trudeau tried to ban some hunting rifles, and had to walk it back.  Humiliating for him, apparently.

Unlike Justin, I don't say dumb things. The Americans in the US who oppose guns would be ecstatic to get Canadian gun control laws. Even those we had last year.

But the slippery slope you envision means the Walmart loon I mentioned gets to take it home today, right?

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24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Right right - anyone who doesn't agree with you loves to see babies die. Keep going, i'm sure any moment gun owners will cave and want to talk gun laws with people as reasonable as you and the democrats. Proving you hate people always gets them interested in discussions.

You have no suggestions other than continuing down the same path with the same results. You call people who want to come up with some sane policies gun grabbers just so you don't have to change anything. 

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1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

I was just reciprocating.

Looked more like you were stretching your mental abilities to the limit and 'locked up'

Like i said - about the best anyone can expect from you.

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

Sure, Trudeau tried to ban some hunting rifles, and had to walk it back.  Humiliating for him, apparently.

And will try again when he figures out how. That's what the left does. They won't rest until all guns are banned.

That's why you coudln't answer a simple question - where will they stop. You just vapor-locked your brain again and had nothing to say.

Because you know they won't stop.

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

Unlike Justin, I don't say dumb things.

ROFLMAO - sure kid.

 

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

 

The Americans in the US who oppose guns would be ecstatic to get Canadian gun control laws. Even those we had last year.

As a starting point - because it makes it much easier to get to where we are THIS year.  IT always does. They ban one gun, then it's the next.  Just like justin did they'll try to call a hunting rifle a 'military sniper rifle' or the like and then ban it because nobody NEEEDS a high powered rifle and a scope!

And with so many guns already banned it makes it easy to ban the next group, As justin did So i'm SURE they'd like to start there But it wouldn't end there.

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

But the slippery slope you envision means the Walmart loon I mentioned gets to take it home today, right?

What it means is that because you can't be rational about having a discussion and have to go right to 'baby killers' and lie about the intent of the dems, we can't even open a dialoge about it.  The dems scream 'Take the baby killers guns" and the gun owners dig in and stop listening  and turn to their politicians and say 'give these asswipes the time of day and you're done".

I don't know what kind of brain damage a person has to sustain to think that going with 'you're fine with children dying" as your opening position is going to allow for any further discussion, THere's no rational discussion to be had with someone like that,

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16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Looked more like you were stretching your mental abilities to the limit and 'locked up'

Like i said - about the best anyone can expect from you.

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16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And will try again when he figures out how. That's what the left does. They won't rest until all guns are banned.

That's why you coudln't answer a simple question - where will they stop. You just vapor-locked your brain again and had nothing to say.

Because you know they won't stop.

I'll be the first to admit you're right when they come for my gun.  Until then you're just talking bollocks.

 

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO - sure kid.

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18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As a starting point - because it makes it much easier to get to where we are THIS year.  IT always does. They ban one gun, then it's the next.  Just like justin did they'll try to call a hunting rifle a 'military sniper rifle' or the like and then ban it because nobody NEEEDS a high powered rifle and a scope!

And with so many guns already banned it makes it easy to ban the next group, As justin did So i'm SURE they'd like to start there But it wouldn't end there.

Like I said, this is such fake scaredy cat bullshit.  I just don't believe you really think sane gun control in the US will lead to a total gun ban. 

 

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

What it means is that because you can't be rational about having a discussion and have to go right to 'baby killers' and lie about the intent of the dems, we can't even open a dialoge about it.  The dems scream 'Take the baby killers guns" and the gun owners dig in and stop listening  and turn to their politicians and say 'give these asswipes the time of day and you're done".

I don't know what kind of brain damage a person has to sustain to think that going with 'you're fine with children dying" as your opening position is going to allow for any further discussion, THere's no rational discussion to be had with someone like that,

And yet... 

No, you're right.  You're not rational.

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20 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

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I'll be the first to admit you're right when they come for my gun.  Until then you're just talking bollocks.

 

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Like I said, this is such fake scaredy cat bullshit.  I just don't believe you really think sane gun control in the US will lead to a total gun ban. 

 

And yet... 

No, you're right.  You're not rational.

Well that was pretty pathetic.

Obviously you know the dems want all guns. Otherwise you'd have an opinion on where they'd stop.

And the best you can do on the serious issues is dodge the question.

well - if your goal was to prove that the left can't have a rational discussion about gun control then well done.  But - you get to live with it.

As for canada, we'll see what happens. The gun registry bit the dust - i'm thinking we may see some other changes too.

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10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well that was pretty pathetic.

Obviously you know the dems want all guns. Otherwise you'd have an opinion on where they'd stop.

And the best you can do on the serious issues is dodge the question.

well - if your goal was to prove that the left can't have a rational discussion about gun control then well done.  But - you get to live with it.

As for canada, we'll see what happens. The gun registry bit the dust - i'm thinking we may see some other changes too.

No it wasn't, but your response was.

Obviously, and I mean really, mindmeltingly obviously, I can't know the end result of Democrat efforts at controlling guns in the US.  That you would attempt to make a point using that is the pathetic part. 

One thing I do know, though.  It wouldn't lead to a complete gun ban.  I can't fathom why you continue to make that argument.  It does show that it's you that can't have a rational discussion about gun control.  You pretend to be scared of sane control over who has access to guns.

 

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17 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No it wasn't, but your response was.

"I know you are but what am I"

And once again despite the already low bar you are below expectations. I"m sorry - shall i find you a 3rd grader to talk with? Someone more your speed?

17 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Obviously, and I mean really, mindmeltingly obviously, I can't know the end result of Democrat efforts at controlling guns in the US. 

You mean it was obvious when you lied and said you DID know weren't looking for total gun bans?

Yeah. That WAS obvious. which is why i called you on it. Nice of you to admit it now i guess.

17 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

One thing I do know, though.  It wouldn't lead to a complete gun ban.

Well no you don't. If you don't know where they would stop then you don't know that .

That is what the dem's want.  ANd why wouldn't they - those on the left such as yourself and the dems literally think people like their guns more than their children. Why WOULDN'T someone want to end all guns if thats what they believe?

You've been lying since the get go to push your agenda. You think the dems don't do the same? Nobody's going to go down that road and find out.  So people like you end any chance of a reasonable discussion on guns.

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Legislation comes from the house where Republicans have a majority. If they wanted any changes at all, they could propose the ones they think would work, but they don’t because they don’t want to change anything and are willing to accept the body count. As are you.

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32 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Legislation comes from the house where Republicans have a majority.T

The dems had majority for 2 years.

32 minutes ago, Aristides said:

If they wanted any changes at all, they could propose the ones they think would work,

Sure - but if they do then the dems just push for MORE changes, and more and more until all guns are banned. People like you are so psychopathic they actually believe that parents would be fine with seeing their children dead. You CANNOT reason with people who are that far gone.

So you can't afford to give them an inch. It's like saying "well if we met the white supremacists half way.... "  It just doesn't work like that.  The white supremacists and the gun grabbers are never going to be satisfied and they're not interested in anything reasonable or rational. 

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8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

"I know you are but what am I"

And once again despite the already low bar you are below expectations. I"m sorry - shall i find you a 3rd grader to talk with? Someone more your speed?

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8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You mean it was obvious when you lied and said you DID know weren't looking for total gun bans?

Yeah. That WAS obvious. which is why i called you on it. Nice of you to admit it now i guess.

I don't know the end result, but I do know it won't lead to a total gun ban.  I don't know who will win the FA cup, but I do know it will be an English football team.  Some things are just obvious. 

 

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well no you don't. If you don't know where they would stop then you don't know that .

Yes, I do. (see football example)

Honestly, the idea that gun control in the US would lead to a total ban on guns is risible.  Why do you keep pushing it?

 

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That is what the dem's want.  ANd why wouldn't they - those on the left such as yourself and the dems literally think people like their guns more than their children. Why WOULDN'T someone want to end all guns if thats what they believe?

But I condeded that I only think it seems like Americans care more about their guns than they do their children.  I mean, look at those Texicans who want to teach their kids to stem arterial blood flow.  That must mean they love their kids as well.

 

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You've been lying since the get go to push your agenda. You think the dems don't do the same? Nobody's going to go down that road and find out.  So people like you end any chance of a reasonable discussion on guns.

You said that gun control will lead to a total ban.  And I seen now you told @Aristides just above,

"So you can't afford to give them an inch."

So it's actually people like you who end any chance of a reasonable discussion on guns.

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12 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

I don't know the end result, but I do know it won't lead to a total gun ban.  I don't know who will win the FA cup, but I do know it will be an English football team.  Some things are just obvious. 

Some things are just lies.   We know that an an english football team will win because they're the only ones allowed to compete.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THE DEMS WONT" BAN ALL GUNS.  Simple question

The fact is you don't and you're simply lying to avoid having to deal with the truth. 

12 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

Yes, I do. (see football example)

THat one got shot down pretty quick. Any more?

12 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Honestly, the idea that gun control in the US would lead to a total ban on guns is risible.  Why do you keep pushing it?

Its simple truth that this is what the dems want. So why are you denying it?

12 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

But I condeded that I only think it seems like Americans care more about their guns than they do their children.

which makes you a lunatic.  And having serious discussions about serious issues with a lunatic is nearly impossible.

12 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

You said that gun control will lead to a total ban.  And I seen now you told @Aristides just above,

Actually what i said is that the dems would not be happy with anything less than a total ban. YOU are the one who added "would lead to" in there.  And they won't - whatever they get today they'll push for more tomorrow and keep banning guns as far as they possibly can.

12 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

"So you can't afford to give them an inch."

So it's actually people like you who end any chance of a reasonable discussion on guns.

If the person across the table is foaming at the mouth and thinks you're an inhuman monster and  wishes you were gone ... if you stand up and walk away from that table it's really not you who's the problem.

Gun owners (and the republicans they vote for) are never going to be interested in giving the dems an inch as long as they're slathering !diots who say psychotic things like "parents dont' love their children  as much as guns".  Like - once you hit that level of crazy there's no point in talking.

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On 5/10/2023 at 6:19 AM, CdnFox said:

The dems had majority for 2 years.

Sure - but if they do then the dems just push for MORE changes, and more and more until all guns are banned. People like you are so psychopathic they actually believe that parents would be fine with seeing their children dead. You CANNOT reason with people who are that far gone.

So you can't afford to give them an inch. It's like saying "well if we met the white supremacists half way.... "  It just doesn't work like that.  The white supremacists and the gun grabbers are never going to be satisfied and they're not interested in anything reasonable or rational. 

Not all Democrats are on side with gun reform. This is basically about people who love guns more than they care about other people.

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8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Not all Democrats are on side with gun reform.

Why not? Do they hate their children too?

8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 

This is basically about people who love guns more than they care about other people.

Ahhh - so the democrats ALSO don't care about other people.  :)

Well thanks for proving that you can't have a sane discussion about it   :) . This is why gun owners will never sit down with hate filled bigots and crazy people,

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On 5/10/2023 at 7:49 AM, CdnFox said:

Some things are just lies.   We know that an an english football team will win because they're the only ones allowed to compete.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THE DEMS WONT" BAN ALL GUNS.  Simple question

The fact is you don't and you're simply lying to avoid having to deal with the truth.

Obviously that just shows how sure I am.  I do know.  And I know you are making this crap up because you don't actually have an argument against sane gun control.  You can tell me you are not, but I know you are.  (see football example)

 

On 5/10/2023 at 7:49 AM, CdnFox said:

THat one got shot down pretty quick. Any more?

I guess it didn't after all.

 

On 5/10/2023 at 7:49 AM, CdnFox said:

Its simple truth that this is what the dems want. So why are you denying it?

No it isn't.  See my reply to your first quote here about making stuff up.

 

On 5/10/2023 at 7:49 AM, CdnFox said:

which makes you a lunatic.  And having serious discussions about serious issues with a lunatic is nearly impossible.

Given the current state of the US it makes me quite generous.  The lunatics are the ones who offer thoughts and prayers after every school (or any other, for that matter) shooting without doing anything about it.  As though their God gave a sh!t.

 

On 5/10/2023 at 7:49 AM, CdnFox said:

Actually what i said is that the dems would not be happy with anything less than a total ban. YOU are the one who added "would lead to" in there.  And they won't - whatever they get today they'll push for more tomorrow and keep banning guns as far as they possibly can.

Okay.  So you concede that sane gun control won't lead to a total ban.  At least that's something.

 

On 5/10/2023 at 7:49 AM, CdnFox said:

If the person across the table is foaming at the mouth and thinks you're an inhuman monster and  wishes you were gone ... if you stand up and walk away from that table it's really not you who's the problem.

Gun owners (and the republicans they vote for) are never going to be interested in giving the dems an inch as long as they're slathering !diots who say psychotic things like "parents dont' love their children  as much as guns".  Like - once you hit that level of crazy there's no point in talking.

So I was right.  It's actually people like you who end any chance of a reasonable discussion on guns.  Because the above statement is utter garbage.  

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26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why not? Do they hate their children too?

Ahhh - so the democrats ALSO don't care about other people.  :)

Well thanks for proving that you can't have a sane discussion about it   :) . This is why gun owners will never sit down with hate filled bigots and crazy people,

There are enough of them that getting anything passed is almost impossible unless they have a large majority. The only reason the latest watered down bill passed was because Biden was able to get the support of a few sane Republicans .

 

I've never said anyone hated their children, just that they don't care about them enough to back any reasonable reforms.

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20 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Obviously that just shows how sure I am.  I do know.  And I know you are making this crap up because you don't actually have an argument against sane gun control.  You can tell me you are not, but I know you are.  (see football example)

If you're "sure" and think you "do know" without any evidence facts or reason.. that's not a sign that you're "sure".  It's a sign you're delusional.

20 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No it isn't.  See my reply to your first quote here about making stuff up.

Of course it is. which is why you can't say where they'd stop. 

20 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

Given the current state of the US it makes me quite generous. 

Nope.  There's nothing "generous' about delusions and hatred.

And the people holding up rational discussions about how to deal with violence are people like you.

20 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

Okay.  So you concede that sane gun control won't lead to a total ban.  At least that's something.

Sure. But there's nothing sane about the democrats OR any of their gun control ideas. I've always maintained that there's things that would make the situation better at least a little bit but the dems make that discussion impossible.

20 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

So I was right.  It's actually people like you who end any chance of a reasonable discussion on guns.  Because the above statement is utter garbage.  

No, you're delusional and hate filled. It's actually people like you, as has been proven all along.  The statement i made is factual and accurate.

It's not possible to have rational discussions with lunatics like yourself who are not only hoplophobes but also detest gun owners as well.  You make rational conversation impossible.

And your counter is "well if you won't sit down with crazy people who hate you then YOU'RE the problem!!!!"

Yeah. :) thanks for proving the point.

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21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If you're "sure" and think you "do know" without any evidence facts or reason.. that's not a sign that you're "sure".  It's a sign you're delusional.

No, I'm sure.  Like I said earlier, the idea that gun control in the US would lead to a total ban is ridiculous.  Anyone who tries to make that point has no interest in any kind of gun control.

 

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Of course it is. which is why you can't say where they'd stop. 

See above.

 

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nope.  There's nothing "generous' about delusions and hatred.

And the people holding up rational discussions about how to deal with violence are people like you.

You are using nonsensical arguments to avoid any kind of discussion about gun control.  It's very difficult to see where you actually stand on mass shootings.  Opposed, sure, but how much?  I was being generous when it comes to people like you. 

 

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure. But there's nothing sane about the democrats OR any of their gun control ideas. I've always maintained that there's things that would make the situation better at least a little bit but the dems make that discussion impossible.

What things? 

 

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, you're delusional and hate filled. It's actually people like you, as has been proven all along.  The statement i made is factual and accurate.

It's not possible to have rational discussions with lunatics like yourself who are not only hoplophobes but also detest gun owners as well.  You make rational conversation impossible.

And your counter is "well if you won't sit down with crazy people who hate you then YOU'RE the problem!!!!"

Yeah. :) thanks for proving the point.

You always end on a low note!  As I said earlier, I am a gun owner.

I might have a fear of loonies with guns.  But I'm in Canada so not so much.

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51 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No, I'm sure.

Yes - you're delusional.  You can't articulate any logical reason for it, nor do you have any evidence so you just arrive at that conclusion because you like it.  


There's nothing nonsensical about my position in the slightest. Any agreement on any gun control laws will immediately lead to more demands for new gun control laws and this will continue.  We've seen this before.

You however believe that something you cannot articulate nor have proof for is true because normal human beings prefer to see their children die.

Like i've said - no point having a conversation about it with lunatics.

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6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yes - you're delusional.  You can't articulate any logical reason for it, nor do you have any evidence so you just arrive at that conclusion because you like it.  


There's nothing nonsensical about my position in the slightest. Any agreement on any gun control laws will immediately lead to more demands for new gun control laws and this will continue.  We've seen this before.

You however believe that something you cannot articulate nor have proof for is true because normal human beings prefer to see their children die.

Like i've said - no point having a conversation about it with lunatics.

I've been having one for a while now.  Point notwithstanding.

Like it or not, your position is nonsensical, and utterly abhorrent.  You are so irrationally terrified of the Democrats and any attempt to instigate gun controls that you will support the status quo, regardless of casualties.

It's a shameful position to take.

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5 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I've been having one for a while now.  Point notwithstanding.

Like it or not, your position is nonsensical, and utterly abhorrent.  You are so irrationally terrified of the Democrats and any attempt to instigate gun controls that you will support the status quo, regardless of casualties.

It's a shameful position to take.

That sounds like the kind of lie a delusional leftie would tell himself in order to cover the fact that his position is not based on fact or reason.  Well done - sounds like you're in true form today :)

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53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That sounds like the kind of lie a delusional leftie would tell himself in order to cover the fact that his position is not based on fact or reason.  Well done - sounds like you're in true form today :)

That's funny. 

You insist that any attempt at reasonable gun control will result in a total ban, without any basis whatsoever in fact or reason.  Just some paranoid delusion about foaming Democrats coming to take way America's freedoms.

You keep telling yourself that, instead of actually pushing for reasonable gun control.  Keep those thoughts and prayers handy though!

Anyway, we've reached the panto stage now, so you can have the last word.  I won't respond, unless you have a different point to make.

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