CdnFox Posted April 27, 2023 Author Report Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: The general term “racism” also includes ethnic groups its not just about genetic races. No, it does not. that's beyond stupid. RACE-ism is about RACE. It's in the name. It's like rice crispies - what do you THINK they're made of? There is an effort on the left to redefine racism to mean more and less - more in the sense that they want it to mean EVERYTHING they don't like, and less in that they don't want it to count if it's directed at white people And the reason is that 'racism' has been established as very very bad, - so they want to use the word as much as possible for things they consider bad. But no - It is about RACE and nothing else. When we're talking about hating jews the correct term is antisemitism. The problem is that just doesn't' sound as evil as 'racist' You could also use prejudiced. Or bigoted. Or even ethnophobic. But again - they don't have the same 'emotional punch' as 'rrrrrraacesism!!!!!!" (boo!) So people on the left don't like them as much But no - the issue with the jews was an ethnophobic issue. Funny enough - ethnophobia CAN refer to race as well, so using that word covers you both ways. 24 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Scientifically speaking “race” doesn’t even exist, it’s a made up concept. Scientifically speaking NO words actually exist, they're ALL made up. They're just symbols we use to describe things, The only thing that is what it it's word is is "word". (yes, that did make sense, just read it again a few times). 24 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Every individual human being is genetically unique and all humans are related and share the vast majority of their DNA. On top of that, humans and proto-humans have been intermixing and interbreeding for millennia, making the whole concept of unique pipelines of pure racial DNA even more implausible. When Europeans invented the concept of “race” it was only in recent centuries as a means of grouping and ranking the various people of the world by ethnicity and superficial features like skin colour. Look kid. If your argument is that there is NO difference between groups of people and it's IMPOSSIBLE to classify them by various genetic traits such as skin colour etc, then you're just wrong. It's a stupid argument, Of course you can. And if your argument is that we DON"T do that somehow - BLM would like to talk to you. When we refer to racism we refer to prejudice based on racial attributes such as skin colour or the like. We are NOT referring to religion. 24 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Of course many (not all) ancient and tribal peoples throughout time had various concepts of their own superiority to others but it was more nuanced than any ideas about “races” that we have today. It was more about believing in the superiority of their culture rather than their biology, so they thought of themselves more in terms of being a tribe or a nation as opposed to being a race. For example they might have thought they were the chosen people of some god as a reward for some great feat their ancestor performed, or that their farming lifestyle was superior to that of nomadic barbarians. Maybe we can call that proto-racism or something but it was notably different than what we see today. Cool story. The history of racial diversification from a common ancestor and the spread of various races around the world and which lived and which died out is, of course, a fascinating one. And perhaps at some point worthy of a thread. But - at the end of the day, racism is still about race. Edited April 27, 2023 by CdnFox Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted April 27, 2023 Report Posted April 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: The general term “racism” also includes ethnic groups its not just about genetic races. People perceive those of other ethnicities to be of a different race. I personally can't tell you if I'm looking at a Japanese/Korean/Chinese/Mongolian person 99% of the time but they can see it. Even within Japan, Korea and China some people break themselves down into separate groups which they feel like they can identify by eye. Some don't care, so maybe they're not as apt to notice, to others it's a huge deal. Some are quite offended to be considered from one of the other groups. Those offended people think that they're seeing a group of people that is different from and inferior to themselves genetically. They don't want their children to intermingle with them and pass those somehow-inferior genes on to their grandkids. They're racists. Quote Scientifically speaking “race” doesn’t even exist, it’s a made up concept. It's visible to the naked eye. Yes, humans are a single species, i.e. we can all mate and produce viable offspring with other people who have visibly different genetic traits, but by definition the word race means exactly what we think it means because the vast majority of people use the word in exactly that way. Some people don't care about visible differences, some do. That second group of people are racist. It's not rocket science. All you have to do is understand it. Words don't mean what you personally wish they meant. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
BeaverFever Posted April 27, 2023 Report Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: People perceive those of other ethnicities to be of a different race. I personally can't tell you if I'm looking at a Japanese/Korean/Chinese/Mongolian person 99% of the time but they can see it. Even within Japan, Korea and China some people break themselves down into separate groups which they feel like they can identify by eye. Some don't care, so maybe they're not as apt to notice, to others it's a huge deal. Some are quite offended to be considered from one of the other groups. Those offended people think that they're seeing a group of people that is different from and inferior to themselves genetically. They don't want their children to intermingle with them and pass those somehow-inferior genes on to their grandkids. They're racists. It's visible to the naked eye. Yes, humans are a single species, i.e. we can all mate and produce viable offspring with other people who have visibly different genetic traits, but by definition the word race means exactly what we think it means because the vast majority of people use the word in exactly that way. Some people don't care about visible differences, some do. That second group of people are racist. It's not rocket science. All you have to do is understand it. Words don't mean what you personally wish they meant. The differences to the naked eye are by themselves biologically qnd scientifically meaningless. They are superficial l. It’s made up that people with different hair colour can be the same race but people with different skin colour are different races. Some people in the midlands east and northern India have paler skin than most white people. Sure you can observe that people whose ancestors remained in after retained black skin while those whose ancestors migrated out of Africa to higher latitudes evolved lighter skin but those aren’t different races any more than a person who evolved blonde hair is different from someone who retained dark hair. Plus once you classify everyone into these supposed races and people start intermarrying then the races become meaningless anyway Just because the tribe on one side of the mountain tends to have smaller noses and the tribe on the other side has bigger noses, doesn’t mean that they’re different “races “ that you can make general assumptions about their other characteristics. And there will always be exceptions to the rule and people with medium sized noses and people who have mixed ancestry from both tribes. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 27, 2023 Author Report Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: The differences to the naked eye are by themselves biologically qnd scientifically meaningless Really. So - if someone has black skin and someone has white that difference is biologically meaningless, they're exactly the same scientifically or biologically. Do you even hear yourself? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted April 27, 2023 Report Posted April 27, 2023 4 hours ago, BeaverFever said: The differences to the naked eye are by themselves biologically qnd scientifically meaningless. They are superficial l. It’s made up that people with different hair colour can be the same race but people with different skin colour are different races. Some people in the midlands east and northern India have paler skin than most white people. Superficial, but noticeable, and it's everything to leftists. Their campaigns are based on it. Joe Biden can tell if you're going to vote for him if your skin is dark enough. Barack Obama said that the cops might shoot your children just for buyin' Skittles if their skin is too dark. Harvard will move you ahead in the entrance lineup if your skin is dark enough, but if it's too Chinese-ish looking you'll get bumped down (that's not racist, because Harvard is overly woke). Google won't hire you if your skin is too light. Quote Sure you can observe that people whose ancestors remained in after retained black skin while those whose ancestors migrated out of Africa to higher latitudes evolved lighter skin but those aren’t different races any more than a person who evolved blonde hair is different from someone who retained dark hair. Plus once you classify everyone into these supposed races and people start intermarrying then the races become meaningless anyway I don't care why some people who identify as 'black' (even though scientifically they're not really black, according to you. Does that mean that Wesley Snipes is white? I'm kinda confused by your criteria) have darker skin than others (it's really important if you wanna be able to loot stores and consider it "reparations" instead of "a crime" though, because the light skin could mean that you're part white, in which case you may not be entitled to reparations at all, or it could just mean that when you get home and divvy up the loot, Hallowe'en-style, you gotta give people with darker skin a bigger share). You're preaching to the wrong group. The racists are: <---that way. (To the left) Get it? NVM. Quote Just because the tribe on one side of the mountain tends to have smaller noses and the tribe on the other side has bigger noses, doesn’t mean that they’re different “races “ that you can make general assumptions about their other characteristics. And there will always be exceptions to the rule and people with medium sized noses and people who have mixed ancestry from both tribes. I don't honestly know what science says about racism, or nosism, and I don't really care. Science and math parted ways recently, and I chose math. You'll never guess why leftists chose science.... ? "Math is racist" ? ? ? Yep. If you count sheep at night to fall asleep, you're a racist. Do you know how many toes you have? RACIST! Why did the chicken cross the road? Because the highway sign had numbers on it, and the chicken wasn't a f'n racist. If you drive 60 MPH how long does it take you to drive 246 miles? If you knew the answer without grabbing a calculator, you're definitely a racist. At least by leftists' standards. Which is basically meaningless, but always good for a laugh. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
BeaverFever Posted April 28, 2023 Report Posted April 28, 2023 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: Really. So - if someone has black skin and someone has white that difference is biologically meaningless, they're exactly the same scientifically or biologically. Do you even hear yourself? What Im saying is they are the same species and “race” is a made up grouping that is not based in science. “Race” has never simply been an observation of peoples skin colour either. “ Race” was invented so people could justify things like slavery and say things like the negro brain is incapable of complex thoughts. They are not different races anymore than blonde people are different races from brunettes. Nobody tries to claim that pure blonde people are one race, brunettes are another race and families with a mix of blondes brunettes and redheads are mixed race…why? You must have blonde ancestors to be blonde, 2 brunettes without blonde gene inherited from their ancestors cannot have blonde children. Wouldn’t that mean And yet we’ve made up this rule that blonde brunette redhead blue eyes green eyes brown eyes whatever it’s all “the white race” which is a made up thing Quote
CdnFox Posted April 28, 2023 Author Report Posted April 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: hat Im saying is they are the same species and “race” is a made up grouping that is not based in science. Well then what you're saying is wrong. It's that simple. But regardless of what 'race' turns out to be, RACE-ism is when people are bigoted or prejudiced based on that. Not their religion or the like. When Americana Antifa makes a jewish slurr, she's not being 'racists'. She'd being anti semite. If she happens to make a degrading comment about some other group then she's being ethnophobic (anti semitism being a very specific example of that). If she hates ALL other groups other than her own then she's xenophobic. She's actually all three at various times - but i hope that at least clears that up for you. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
BeaverFever Posted April 28, 2023 Report Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Superficial, but noticeable, and it's everything to leftists. Their campaigns are based on it. Because racism is real 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Joe Biden can tell if you're going to vote for him if your skin is dark enough Because racism is real and Republicans deny that fact 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Barack Obama said that the cops might shoot your children just for buyin' Skittles if their skin is too dark It’s true it happens all the time 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Harvard will move you ahead in the entrance lineup if your skin is dark enough, but if it's too Chinese-ish looking you'll get bumped down (that's not racist, because Harvard is overly woke). You oversimplify how these things work, besides it’s been accepted for generations that they can move ahead rich people and children of alumni and donors (most of whom are white), why not others groups? But just to rebut your claim: Harvard admits record number of Asian American students while Black and Latino admissions drop https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna77923 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Google won't hire you if your skin is too light. Statistics tell a different story. 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: don't care why some people who identify as 'black' (even though scientifically they're not really black, according to you. Does that mean that Wesley Snipes is white? I'm kinda confused by your criteria) have darker skin than others (it's really important if you wanna be able to loot stores and consider it "reparations" instead of "a crime" though, because the light skin could mean that you're part white, in which case you may not be entitled to reparations at all, or it could just mean that when you get home and divvy up the loot, Hallowe'en-style, you gotta give people with darker skin a bigger share). You're preaching to the wrong group. The racists are: <---that way. (To the left) Get it? NVM. This whole rant suggests the racists are to the right actually. 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Science and math parted ways recently False 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: you count sheep at night to fall asleep, you're a racist. Do you know how many toes you have? RACIST! Why did the chicken cross the road? Because the highway sign had numbers on it, and the chicken wasn't a f'n racist. If you drive 60 MPH how long does it take you to drive 246 miles? If you knew the answer without grabbing a calculator, you're definitely a racist. At least by leftists' standards. Which is basically meaningless, but always good for a laugh. I think you misunderstand what those people are actually saying and its a view among academics not thw entire left about how math is taught not that math itself is racst. Edited April 28, 2023 by BeaverFever Quote
BeaverFever Posted April 28, 2023 Report Posted April 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well then what you're saying is wrong. It's that simple. No it’s not. Race is a social construct that’s been the scientific consensus for many decades now. Sorry. In the biological and social sciences, the consensus is clear: race is a social construct, not a biological attribute. Today, scientists prefer to use the term “ancestry” to describe human diversity (Figure 3). “Ancestry” reflects the fact that human variations do have a connection to the geographical origins of our ancestors—with enough information about a person’s DNA, scientists can make a reasonable guess about their ancestry. However, unlike the term “race,” it focuses on understanding how a person’s history unfolded, not how they fit into one category and not another. In a clinical setting, for instance, scientists would say that diseases such as sickle-cell anemia and cystic fibrosis are common in those of “sub-Saharan African” or “Northern European” descent, respectively, rather than in those who are “black” or “white”. https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/science-genetics-reshaping-race-debate-21st-century/#:~:text=In the biological and social,human diversity (Figure 3). As for your other comments the Jews might be a bad example because they are perceived ad being BOTH a race and a religion. In my experience I’ve seen people use the world “racism” to include and the “anti-religionisms” out there. If anyone wants to make up a mew word for it, fine by me. What difference does it really make anyway? Semantics. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 28, 2023 Author Report Posted April 28, 2023 31 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: No it’s not. Race is a social construct that’s been the scientific consensus for many decades now. Sorry. You're wrong. Even more sorry. Many feel that the differences are minor in the big picture but ALL note there IS a biological difference. in fact there's a large body of research looking at ailments from the point of view of which 'race' is more susceptible. In canada we treated the first nations with covid vaccines earlier because as a RACE they are more physically at risk of serious consequence. They certainly were with small pox and were and still are with tuberculosis. Your claim that there is no biological difference is simply not accurate. There is, and tho it may be small it's still significant. Swing and a miss. 31 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: As for your other comments the Jews might be a bad example because they are perceived ad being BOTH a race and a religion. They're not perceived as a race. Not by intelligent people. They are often referred to as an ethnic group, and ethnicity can include race, but jews come from all over and all kinds of backgrounds. They're not a race. The only time they come close is when their community seeks to have the same sort of benefits that being a distict race sometimes has. 31 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: In my experience I’ve seen people use the world “racism” to include and the “anti-religionisms” out there. If anyone wants to make up a mew word for it, fine by me. What difference does it really make anyway? Semantics. Sure, people slightly misuse words all the time. Irony is constantly abused But if someone like AA above says that claiming the persecution of the jews was not anti sematic but rather racist, then it's worth noting that no, the gassing of the jews was an anti semetic act, not a racial one. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted April 28, 2023 Report Posted April 28, 2023 10 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Because racism is real A hateful, divisive speech is real. All that the Dems were doing when they pretended that racist cops were the biggest problem leading to M. Brown's death was creating division and hate. The Dems sow that division wherever they can. FYI you don't fight racism by creating the bogeyman, and inciting nationwide riots to fight him. Quote Because racism is real and Republicans deny that fact Racism is real and Dems contribute to it. They incite violence to contribute to it. They didn't become the good guys when they let go of the kkk, they just switched tactics. Now they support BLM, but FYI BLM isn't making the problem go away, they're making it much worse. Groups of black people marching together, yelling for the murders of police officers, doesn't make racism go away. Teaching young kids that disrespecting the police is proof that you're not a racist is despicable, and will get some of them killed. Guess why white people and Chinese people and Jews don't tell their kids to wrestle with cops.... If you were black, would you want people encouraging your kid to do that? If not, then why support the whole M Brown/Rayshard/Floyd narrative? Kids who emulate them all run the risk of sharing their fate. They were stupid, now they're dead. Don't be like them. Quote It’s true it happens all the time No, it's not even slightly true at all. Cops never shoot kids who are just off to buy Skittles. Do you know that if the rest of the police in the US shot/killed black kids at the same rate that the BLM police did in Chazz there would be over 100,000 black kids killed every year by police? Can you say a word or two about the Chazz police force's homicide rate? Quote You oversimplify how these things work, besides it’s been accepted for generations that they can move ahead rich people and children of alumni and donors (most of whom are white), why not others groups? But just to rebut your claim: Harvard admits record number of Asian American students while Black and Latino admissions drop TBH, Harvard functions well because of their business model. Take in the most money, get the best professors, get the brightest students, have the most successful grads, etc. It's a self-perpetuating cycle. Just like Ox/Bridge. If they turn it into a low-rent charity school then they will just be surpassed by someone else. You don't understand the role economics plays in healthy societies, in war, in everyday life. If Beaver Cleaver wins every time, his country loses. Now, if some less-wealthy people benefit from getting into Harvard, good for them. The opportunity needs to be there. But fairness is overrated. If you grandfathers and GGFs, etc, were billionaires, and contributed greatly to the building of railroads, bridges, schools and the like, would it really be fair to you if some kid who beat you by .025% got into Harvard ahead of you? Fairness works both ways, not just from the outside in. Harvard had no choice but abandon their woke, stupid BS plan, that was completely discriminatory to the vast bulk of their students and donors. It was the worst business model ever conceived. Quote Statistics tell a different story. 1) Who the hell are you to talk about stats? You think that death stats are insignificant and meaningless. FYI death is one of the most significant outcomes in any measure of stats. For real. That's not Qanon disinformation. 2) I can only go by what the higher-ups in Google say. 3) Do you have access to their hiring stats from after the comment was leaked? Quote This whole rant suggests the racists are to the right actually. That whole rant is about woke identity politics that are stupid and bad for the country. Quote False Science and math absolutely parted ways on the world stage. "Science says" that there's a covid vaccine, and that it's beneficial for kids to take it, and that the benefits outweigh the risks, but math/stats point to the exact opposite. Covid deaths in Canada in 2022 were 24% higher than they were two years prior, when covid was a novel virus and zero people were vaxed. Over 85% of Canadians were 'vaxed' in 2022'. They accounted for almost 90% of covid deaths. There's nothing else that we refer to as a vaccine that has such a deplorable success rate. It's like referring to a locomotive as an airplane. Covid deaths in Canada in 2022 were 30% higher than they were one year prior, when we started off the year in the middle of the first covid flu season with almost zero people vaxed. Covid deaths in the summer of 2022 were vastly higher than in both of the previous summers, and the vast majority of those summertime covid deaths were among the triple- and quadruple-vaccinated. Quote I think you misunderstand what those people are actually saying and its a view among academics not thw entire left about how math is taught not that math itself is racst. Math is a ladder, not a burning cross. Anyone with an above average IQ could be doing grade 12 math in middle school if they just worked hard enough. Do you know why a lot of black kids don't work hard at math? Because leftists have convinced them that they will be bypassed no matter how well they do in school, or that racist cops might even shoot them for no reason. Simple logic tells them that if school definitely won't get them ahead, and they need protection from the pigs, they might have a better shot at survival and a lot of cash in their pockets if they join a gang instead of studying. Black kids literally grow up with a bunker mentality in the land of opportunity for no reason aside from stories/comments like "Trayvon was shot just because of his skin colour", and "M Brown was a gentle giant living among a horde of racist cops". If you know a black kid and you love them, tell them to ignore the leftist BS and do grade 12 math in grade 8. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
impartialobserver Posted April 28, 2023 Report Posted April 28, 2023 Being that I know Las Vegas better than anyone else on here.. this story has a lot of BS wrapped in and around it. Las Vegas, love it or hate it, is a not a hotbed of political activism or religion. You typically move to Las Vegas to escape that. Quote
Americana Antifa Posted April 30, 2023 Report Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) On 4/27/2023 at 12:47 AM, WestCanMan said: This is just another example of how unaware you are of what's going on right in front of your eyes. 1) The Dems/Hillary cheated no less than 3 times on the 2016 election. 100% busted, zeeero doubt about it. They absolutely, definitely, certainly cheated and CNN was a part of the cheating: it was their gal, Donna Brazille, who gave Hillary the debate questions. 2) Hillary, the MSM and the FBI spent 3 years lying about the validity of the 2016 election. Their attacks on the legitimate POTUS were wholly founded in Hillary's lies and FBI crimes. Yes, FBI crimes. The FBI actually committed crimes to keep the slander-fest going. 3) The Dems spent all of 2016-2020 working on voter-fraud-friendly legislation such as no-ID voting, mass-mailing unsolicited ballots, not requiring any form of signature matching, etc. 4) As soon as the Dems won the 2020 election, questioning the integrity of an election suddenly became a federal offence. It's literally not safe for anyone to question that election. The knves are out, bigtime. People have been in jail for over two years without a trial for.... for.... who knows? They haven't even been charged yet. How fascist is all that? How much does it look like the Dem cheating will eventually get them in, and making it illegal to question election results will keep them in. They have the FBI/KGB in their pocket. I don't really care to debate conspiracy theories. I think if someone believes stuff like this, they're too far gone and there's no winning them over. Edited April 30, 2023 by Americana Antifa Quote Unsere Stadt, merk euch das, für euch ist kein Platz da. Alerta, Alerta, Antifascista!
Americana Antifa Posted April 30, 2023 Report Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 10:07 AM, CdnFox said: No, it does not. that's beyond stupid. RACE-ism is about RACE. It's in the name. It's like rice crispies - what do you THINK they're made of? I've heard this before. ? When Trump said the Squad should "go back to their countries" a bunch of people were defending him by saying it wasn't racist because Arabs and Hispanics aren't racial categories. This is a common strategy the Right uses. They'll try to redefine racism to only include genetic categories. They did this with the Muslim ban too. It's not racist! Islam is a religion, not a race! To paraphrase Jean-Paul Sartre, never believe that fascists are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. Quote Unsere Stadt, merk euch das, für euch ist kein Platz da. Alerta, Alerta, Antifascista!
CdnFox Posted April 30, 2023 Author Report Posted April 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: I've heard this before. ? That race means something racial? I can imagine you have. 28 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: When Trump said the Squad should "go back to their countries" a bunch of people were defending him by saying it wasn't racist because Arabs and Hispanics aren't racial categories. Hispanic is a race - arab probably isn't. But - of course context means nothing to the left 28 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: This is a common strategy the Right uses. They'll try to redefine racism to only include genetic categories. They did this with the Muslim ban too. It's not racist! Islam is a religion, not a race! You mean it's a common strategy for the right to tell the truth? Agreed. And islam isn't a race. I'ts a religion and arguably an ethnicity. But - the left HAS to DEAMAND it's a race!!! WHy? Because Ethnophobic isn't as SCCAAARRREEEYYYYY!!!!! So we have to call EVERYTHING we don't like "RACIST"! This isn't about right wing strategies - this is about left wing strategies. Everything has to be racist. It's culturally accepted that racism is not to be tolerated - so if we can JUST CALL something racists then it's instantly bad! That's why math is racist. The left lie. It's what they do. Then claim it's a right wing conspiracy when they point it out. 28 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: To paraphrase Jean-Paul Sartre, ..... To pharaphrase Jean-luc Picard, there are four lights. And none of them operate on gas. Sorry kiddo. Why does the left ALWAYS accuse everyone else of their own sins? It's like a reflex. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Americana Antifa Posted April 30, 2023 Report Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That race means something racial? I can imagine you have. Hispanic is a race - arab probably isn't. But - of course context means nothing to the left Thank you for demonstrating my point. If you want to be racist against Arabs, you'll just claim Arabs aren't a race while winking at the other racists. This is the strategy I'm saying that the Right uses. At least, while they're out of power. When they're in power, they don't need to use things like dog whistles. Of course, it's all semantics. Racism is about perceived differences, not real genetic differences. If someone hates the Polish or the Italians, that's racism, regardless of the DNA of anyone involved. 40 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And islam isn't a race. I'ts a religion and arguably an ethnicity. Alright, you can stop demonstrating my point now. 40 minutes ago, CdnFox said: This isn't about right wing strategies - this is about left wing strategies. Everything has to be racist. It's culturally accepted that racism is not to be tolerated - so if we can JUST CALL something racists then it's instantly bad! Another right-wing strategy. You'll do something racist, then when you get called out on it, just claim that people say everything is racist. It's the same thing with fascism. You'll argue in favor of fascism without actually using the word, but then when someone points out that what you're describing is fascist, you say "the Left" thinks anyone they disagree with is fascist. 40 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's why math is racist. Um... ok? I don't remember making that argument, but alright. Edited April 30, 2023 by Americana Antifa Quote Unsere Stadt, merk euch das, für euch ist kein Platz da. Alerta, Alerta, Antifascista!
WestCanMan Posted May 1, 2023 Report Posted May 1, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 6:25 PM, Americana Antifa said: I don't really care to debate conspiracy theories. I think if someone believes stuff like this, they're too far gone and there's no winning them over. You think it's a conspiracy theory that Hillary was given debate questions? You're an 1d-1ot. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-shared-debate-questions-with-clinton-campaign You don't think that the Dems conspired to beat Bernie? You're an 1d-1ot. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/democratic-national-committee-chief-stepping-aside-after-convention-n615826 You don't think she got bogus intel from Russians? You're an 1d-1ot. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html In fact, she even failed to disclose the dirty dossier in her campaign spending so she was fined. Why did she fail to disclose that the intel that the FBI lied about to the FBI, which her lawyer never disclosed came from her? She's a dirty, cheating skank, and what kind of person would think that what she did was ok? Probably someone else like her, I guess. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CdnFox Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Posted May 1, 2023 59 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You think it's a conspiracy theory that Hillary was given debate questions? You're an 1d-1ot. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-shared-debate-questions-with-clinton-campaign You don't think that the Dems conspired to beat Bernie? You're an 1d-1ot. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/democratic-national-committee-chief-stepping-aside-after-convention-n615826 You don't think she got bogus intel from Russians? You're an 1d-1ot. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html In fact, she even failed to disclose the dirty dossier in her campaign spending so she was fined. Why did she fail to disclose that the intel that the FBI lied about to the FBI, which her lawyer never disclosed came from her? She's a dirty, cheating skank, and what kind of person would think that what she did was ok? Probably someone else like her, I guess. Obviously. But the left can't admit any of that of course. They are every bit as delusional and demented as the trump supporters who stormed the capital. But that's the left - they HAVE to lie to make their points. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted May 1, 2023 Report Posted May 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Obviously. But the left can't admit any of that of course. They are every bit as delusional and demented as the trump supporters who stormed the capital. But that's the left - they HAVE to lie to make their points. It's bizarre how they just lie in the face of conclusive facts. I don't even know if you could teach a bot to lie like they do. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted May 1, 2023 Report Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It's bizarre how they just lie in the face of conclusive facts. I don't even know if you could teach a bot to lie like they do. When did you and CdnFox kiss and make up? Didn't he rip into you like you were a typical lying lefty when he started posting here? You seem very atypically forgiving now. Edited May 1, 2023 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted May 1, 2023 Report Posted May 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, eyeball said: When did you and CdnFox kiss and make up? Didn't he rip into you like you were a typical lying lefty when he started posting here? You seem very atypically forgiving now. I don't remember what our original beef was about. This place isn't a religion for me and I don't carve it into my skin when someone disagrees with me. I can agree with people on some topics and disagree on others. It makes sense to me. If Jean Chretien was right about Iraq, which I suspect he was, then I can respect that. I don't respect outright lying, and anyone who says "covd vaccine" now is a liar. If that jab is a vaccine then Joe Biden is an Iron Man triathlete after he falls up some stairs, falls off his bike, and then farts in the bathtub. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted May 1, 2023 Report Posted May 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I don't remember what our original beef was about. I imagine it was just CdnFox in his pedantic sphincter mode. Obviously he came to see you as a kindred spirit. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, eyeball said: When did you and CdnFox kiss and make up? Didn't he rip into you like you were a typical lying lefty when he started posting here? You seem very atypically forgiving now. Aww are you feeling lett out again little guy? We all think you're great too When people talk sense i say 'that makes sense'. It's that simple. If you find you're getting yelled at a lot then make more sense. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Posted May 1, 2023 44 minutes ago, eyeball said: I imagine it was just CdnFox in his pedantic sphincter mode. Obviously he came to see you as a kindred spirit. I don't post based on people's names, sorry. If i'm lighting into someone they've done or said something stupid, not just wrong but logically rediuclous or more likely they've been rude. I disagree with a number of people here quite civilly, So again if you're getting treated like the trashcan of humanity you are then you might want to think about that Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
taxme Posted May 1, 2023 Report Posted May 1, 2023 On 4/22/2023 at 5:40 PM, CdnFox said: Nope - americana antifa does pretty regular, till i pointed out that someone's going to report her one of these days if she keeps it up. Also said that the isreali gov't are nazis. Compared their actions to the nazi's in the war as well, but out and out said they're nazis. But you do raise a point - there are those here who take a perverse interest in calling zelensky, a jew, a nazi. I guess the real takeaway is it's becoming very acceptable to call anyone you disagree with a fascist or a nazi. It is becoming very acceptable from the leftists liberals here that if one is a Christian white conservative than those people are nothing more than a bunch of white supremacists and racist Nazis. Zelensky did shut down churches and abolished all political opposition party's. Looks like something a Nazi would do. ? Quote
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