The PrivlidgeGame - accurate depiction of culture wars or not?

[CdnFox]

So here's a short little skit called "The Privilege Game" that AA reminded me about.

This in my opinion is a VERY accurate and Funny (or frightening) look at the whole culture war and it's affect on people and how they react. They even nail the personalities.

Please watch it and tell me - Accurate portrayal or unfair representation? DId they miss anything?

 

 

[OftenWrong]

Opposites are usually identified by their polar extremes. The thing is you're never supposed to go there.

Stay in the tropics, my friends...

[Dougie93]

15 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Stay in the tropics, my friends...

what if one is confronted by extreme circumstances ?

what if the government is coming to take your free speech ?

censor information from you to nefarious ends ?

confiscate your property arbitrarily without due process ?

persecute you for your fundamental beliefs and principles ?

there's nowhere to hide in the tropics when faced with totalitarianism

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

what if one is confronted by extreme circumstances ?

what if the government is coming to take your free speech ?

That's often when we see the more moderate society play their 'trump card'.  They'll bring in a NON moderate to affect sweeping change.

Examples (other than hitler because he's way too obvious)  would be like ontario - who passed up on 2 pretty mild conservative offerings as kathleen wynne was destroying the province and eventually brought in Ford - who at the time was a fire breathing conservative who was going to slash budgets to the minimum etc.  And the left freaked out "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!!"

In the us it was literally trump, which was a reply to the wokeness and intersectional culture wars obama fueled.

I suspect PP will be another example - although he's actually not terribly radical or right wing he's seen that way compared to justin who's so far left he's almost round-robin'ed around to being far right The left will have passed up on someone who's a red tory like Erin and will wind up with someone who's a lot more firmly right.

This is a thing the left have never understood. The rise of Far left wing mismanagement and authoritarianism always leads to a far right radical response.

 

[Dougie93]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That's often when we see the more moderate society play their 'trump card'.  They'll bring in a NON moderate to affect sweeping change.

Examples (other than hitler because he's way too obvious)  would be like ontario - who passed up on 2 pretty mild conservative offerings as kathleen wynne was destroying the province and eventually brought in Ford - who at the time was a fire breathing conservative who was going to slash budgets to the minimum etc.  And the left freaked out "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!!"

In the us it was literally trump, which was a reply to the wokeness and intersectional culture wars obama fueled.

I suspect PP will be another example - although he's actually not terribly radical or right wing he's seen that way compared to justin who's so far left he's almost round-robin'ed around to being far right The left will have passed up on someone who's a red tory like Erin and will wind up with someone who's a lot more firmly right.

This is a thing the left have never understood. The rise of Far left wing mismanagement and authoritarianism always leads to a far right radical response.

 

well I did vote for Doug Ford

but I viewed Kathleen Wynne as being the ideological extremist and Doug Ford as being the moderate

and I will vote for Pierre Poilievre

same reason, Justin Trudeau is the extremist who needs to be checked

[Dougie93]

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

In the us it was literally trump, which was a reply to the wokeness and intersectional culture wars obama fueled.

by my American conservative standards, Donald Trump is a moderate

Donald Trump is actually well to the left of most Republican Presidents

Donald Trump in fact just stole the Democrats old platform of Protectionism to defend the unions

the Democrats went so far left, they left the centre wide open for him

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Opposites are usually identified by their polar extremes. The thing is you're never supposed to go there.

Stay in the tropics, my friends...

Perhaps a more accurate way of looking at things is that the extremes are in the middle of the battlefield, like conscripts cheered on by the so-called moderates reserved on the sidelines.

[WestCanMan]

I think it's a bit ridiculous tbh.

I see what they were trying to do there, but in the end they're still playing up leftist tropes.

Eg, the concept of "giving up 23% of your wages because you're female" is just an urban myth.

The simple, inescapable, biological and financial fact of the matter is that the wage gap doesn't come from a lack of fairness at all, it is just a reasonable evaluation of people's time in the trenches. 

1) Men enter the workforce part-time in junior high school or high school and they enter full-time at 18-25 (after university) and they don't leave it for more than a week or two at a time 'til they're about 65. Women start later, retire earlier and spend fewer years working full-time. If they're on the same job they're physically less capable and usually deserve less money. No woman can carry shingles up a ladder or rope cattle or carry a 240lb man out of a burning bldg. If you need someone to do those things you have to hire a man. Sorry.

2) If a man is single they need money to date, and if they're married and about to have a kid they're roped. They can't go anywhere. Women don't need money to date, and if they're married and they're gonna have kids then they're gonna take 1-3 years off on mat leave and if they get full benefits that will cost their employers dearly, for nothing in return.

We've all heard about women getting jobs at UPS and the like just because they know that they're gonna get pregnant soon and they want to collect full benefits while they're off work.  

3) If men are stronger, smarter, work harder and/or are more attractive than other men then they are going earn more money than other men. If women are all that then there's a good chance that they will never have to enter the work force. That means that the top 2% of males are out kicking ass and bringing up the avg income for men while the top 2% of women aren't even in the game. It's real life, and that's why leftists won't consider it. If there wasn't a higher percentage of men than women working then daytime TV wouldn't all be geared towards women. 

 

None of the above means that "women are never as good as men as employees", or that they shouldn't ever earn as much as men, it is just a bunch of reasons why men have a higher average. People who aren't "average" never have to worry about it. 

Men never act like the guy in the video and just say "I get more for no real reason, haha, suck it up". The whole "women get 23% less" is just a tactic by politicians to divide and conquer. They want a leg up on 50% of the votes. That's it. 

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

by my American conservative standards, Donald Trump is a moderate

Donald Trump is actually well to the left of most Republican Presidents

Donald Trump in fact just stole the Democrats old platform of Protectionism to defend the unions

the Democrats went so far left, they left the centre wide open for him

I think Trump is moderate on some things and what you say is true on some if not many of his positions, but he's right or far-right on some other stuff.  He's a racist authoritarian, for example.  His Muslim ban and election denials are no moderate positions.

Since i'm a moderate there's a number of general positions I agree with on.  His problem is that his rhetoric is often quite  inflammatory and he triggered a lot of people.  He is a narcissistic megalomaniac.  He's no statesmen.  If he just learned to STFU & be more respectful he would have done a lot better and might have been re-elected.  He was ruined by his own arrogance.

[Dougie93]

3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I think Trump is moderate on some things and what you say is true on some if not many of his positions, but he's right or far-right on some other stuff.  He's a racist authoritarian, for example.  His Muslim ban and election denials are no moderate positions.

Since i'm a moderate there's a number of general positions I agree with on.  His problem is that his rhetoric is often quite  inflammatory and he triggered a lot of people.  He is a narcissistic megalomaniac.  He's no statesmen.  If he just learned to STFU & be more respectful he would have done a lot better and might have been re-elected.  He was ruined by his own arrogance.

I am not endorsing Trump

though I have no quarrel with inflammatory rhetoric, that's constitutionally protected speech

I also don't think he is ruined neither, he's leading the GOP primary poll and raising money hand over fist

[Moonlight Graham]

20 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I am not endorsing Trump

though I have no quarrel with inflammatory rhetoric, that's constitutionally protected speech

I also don't think he is ruined neither, he's leading the GOP primary poll and raising money hand over fist

He'll probably lose again.  If they want to nominate a guy who already lost because they can't read the room that's up to them.  The GOP just take everything too far.

[CdnFox]

44 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

He'll probably lose again.  If they want to nominate a guy who already lost because they can't read the room that's up to them.  The GOP just take everything too far.

Honestly i'm not sure he will lose. I wouldn't bet too much against taht guy. Biden isn't inspiring people to get out there and vote that's for sure.

The best thing for the GOP is for trump to lose the nomination to a strong candidate who then wins two terms.  But - that's not looking like it's in the cards.  The second best thing is for him to run and win. Do his four years, and then be out of the game permanently for life. If he doesn't he'll keep trying and this never goes away.

So i think if he takes the nomination the GOP will pull out all stops, and lets face it - biden isn't going to be able to win by hiding in his basement again this time. He'll have to come out and defend his record. Which means he'll have to stay awake in front of the camera.

Frankly it doesn't look great for the us either way right now. Trump did decently as far as results but his rhetoric is unsuitable for a president and the drama took away from his good works on things like the employment front. And his rhetoric is getting worse not better.

Biden is a train wreck.

So either way id' say the us is minimum 4 years out from good governance. At least. We'll see who runs next.

[eyeball]

On 4/16/2023 at 11:29 AM, WestCanMan said:

None of the above means that "women are never as good as men as employees", or that they shouldn't ever earn as much as men, it is just a bunch of reasons why men have a higher average.

No it doesn't mean these things but it still comes through loud and clear in the tone of your opinion.