CdnFox Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-on-sidelines-as-u-s-britain-australia-move-ahead-on-new-security-deal-1.6311220 OTTAWA - Canada's omission from a military pact involving three of its closest allies is symptomatic of a larger problem in how this country is perceived by its friends, experts are warning, as the U.S., Britain and Australia move ahead on their deal. So - Canada is being left out of important security discussions because the rest of the world thinks we're in china's pocket. Great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Should anyone be surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Trudeau's a security risk . . . . . the world can see the 'Chinese/Canadian Coalition Government of Canada', and want nothing to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 What are we really have to offer, poutine ? Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, Army Guy said: What are we really have to offer, poutine ? there is only one country disputing Canada's claims to the Grand Banks & Northwest Passage that country is America Canada opposes American Freedom of Navigation up to the 12 mile limit that makes America Canada's primary adversary at sea why would America give such an adversary SSN's ? Canadian SSN's to follow American SSN's around in the arctic ? America is not so naive Australia on the other hand, has no territorial disputes with America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Canada has been sucking up to Beijing for 50 years and China is Canada's second largest trading partner. Many politicians in Canada may be heavily influenced by China. It took years for Canada to make a decision about Huawei telecommunications company while the Five Eyes decided to ban them years before. What would one expect with a wishy-washy government in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 22 hours ago, Dougie93 said: there is only one country disputing Canada's claims to the Grand Banks & Northwest Passage that country is America Canada opposes American Freedom of Navigation up to the 12 mile limit that makes America Canada's primary adversary at sea why would America give such an adversary SSN's ? Canadian SSN's to follow American SSN's around in the arctic ? America is not so naive Australia on the other hand, has no territorial disputes with America Not true, Russia has disputed claims, along with Denmark and Hans island not sure if thats resolved...And lets be real, it is America we owe our sovereignty to, without them we would have none to really speak off... and if they decided to take it what could we really do other than offer them Quebec and the secret poutine recipe... Giving Canada nuke subs would akin to giving a small child a sharp kitchen knife... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Army Guy said: Not true, Russia has disputed claims, along with Denmark and Hans island not sure if thats resolved...And lets be real, it is America we owe our sovereignty to, without them we would have none to really speak off... and if they decided to take it what could we really do other than offer them Quebec and the secret poutine recipe... Giving Canada nuke subs would akin to giving a small child a sharp kitchen knife... America does not want your sovereignty America simply defends Freedom of Navigation anywhere in international waters up to the twelve mile limit but Canada, like Russia, tries to declare a "Sphere of Influence" beyond that Canada claims that its empire includes the Grand Banks & Northwest Passage beyond the 12 mile limit America simply will not submit to that no matter who attempts to assert it, be it Russia, China, or Canada in terms of the Russians in Canadian waters the only threat there is Russian strategic ballistic & guided missile submarines operating under the ice and that threat is such that America has to operate in Canadian waters in complete secrecy to include from Ottawa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 23 hours ago, Dougie93 said: America does not want your sovereignty America simply defends Freedom of Navigation anywhere in international waters up to the twelve mile limit but Canada, like Russia, tries to declare a "Sphere of Influence" beyond that Canada claims that its empire includes the Grand Banks & Northwest Passage beyond the 12 mile limit America simply will not submit to that no matter who attempts to assert it, be it Russia, China, or Canada in terms of the Russians in Canadian waters the only threat there is Russian strategic ballistic & guided missile submarines operating under the ice and that threat is such that America has to operate in Canadian waters in complete secrecy to include from Ottawa They may not want it, but they have done more to earn it than our own government. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Army Guy said: They may not want it, but they have done more to earn it than our own government. America honestly doesn't want Canada America is not inviting Canada to join America quite the opposite in fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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