US Dem/Media Perception of Life

[August1991]

According to the West: Putin is Hitler, Russia is Nazi Germany.

Ordinary Russian soldiers want to suicide, are tired. Russia will never win.

Letterman: https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/david-letterman-zelenskyy-interview

"For the interview, I had to go deep in the ground - something that I had never done... "

Sorry, utter bullsh*t.

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Do Westerners understand that this is propaganda?

We in the West now receive most news filtered through various channels, including the Ukrainian government.

Edited December 20, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

I am a Canadian. I have lived in various parts of Europe.

I was always curious about Trudeau Snr and his ideas. I now know that he was correct.

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What the Americans are doing in Ukraine is wrong. 

[August1991]

Chretien wisely kept us out of Iraq.

For domestic political reasons, he involved us in Serbia.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ndp-breaks-ranks-on-kosovo-bombing-1.189645

Edited December 20, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

I recall when Trudeau Snr famously asked, "Where is Biafra?"

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As it happens, he had been to Nigeria - along the coast.

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You current Americans are foolish.

You won the Cold War only because you faced greater fools in the Soviets. 

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by August1991

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, August1991 said:

I am a Canadian. I have lived in various parts of Europe.

I was always curious about Trudeau Snr and his ideas. I now know that he was correct.

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What the Americans are doing in Ukraine is wrong. 

Why is it "wrong" to help Ukraine and punish Putin for HIS unprovoked aggression?

You know he wants the huge gas reserves off the South coast FOR HIMSELF, don't you?

If Putin wins Ukraine, he won't stop there. He would have an even greater monopoly on European fossil fuels.

[Rebound]

On 12/20/2022 at 4:52 AM, August1991 said:

I am a Canadian. I have lived in various parts of Europe.

I was always curious about Trudeau Snr and his ideas. I now know that he was correct.

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What the Americans are doing in Ukraine is wrong. 

You’re a Russian plant. Putin is a queer. He wears women’s clothing and lipstick.  

Edited December 22, 2022 by Rebound

[August1991]

8 hours ago, Rebound said:

You’re a Russian plant. Putin is a queer. He wears women’s clothing and lipstick.  

I'm not. I was born in Canada, I have been posting here for many years. I am what I am and this forum allows me to post -more or less- what I think.

But I have lived travelled in Moscow Kiev Russia Ukraine etc.

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I have my own opinion of Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi. 

 

[August1991]

BTW,

I also lived in Sri Lanka and Bulgaria, then Syria (or rather Lebanon) - look for the woman - but neither place is now in the western news.

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No one cares about Beirut. It's all about Kiev now.

 

[August1991]

On 12/20/2022 at 12:20 PM, robosmith said:

Why is it "wrong" to help Ukraine and punish Putin for HIS unprovoked aggression?

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If Putin wins Ukraine, he won't stop there. He would have an even greater monopoly on European fossil fuels.

This is not 1936. Putin is not H*tler and Kiev is not Prague,

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Rather, this is 1913 or so. The Balkan Wars.

And you Americans - Biden specifically - are id**s, children playing with matches.

  

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, August1991 said:

This is not 1936. Putin is not H*tler and Kiev is not Prague,

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Rather, this is 1913 or so. The Balkan Wars.

And you Americans - Biden specifically - are id**s, children playing with matches.

  

It's clear that Putin wants to reassemble the Soviet Union; he's said as much.

Considers the loss of the SU the great tragedy of the 20th century.

He won't stop with Ukraine, and him controlling vast Ukrainian fossil fuel reserves would give him the money to afford it.

[August1991]

This is a civil war.

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What you Americans are doing - it's wrong.

I imagine what would happen if you Americans took sides in Canada.

 

[August1991]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's clear that Putin wants to reassemble the Soviet Union; he's said as much.

Considers the loss of the SU the great tragedy of the 20th century.

He won't stop with Ukraine, and him controlling vast Ukrainian fossil fuel reserves would give him the money to afford it.

Disagree strongly.

Putin is merely doing what Catherine the Great did.

He is protecting the people of Russia.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, August1991 said:

Disagree strongly.

Putin is merely doing what Catherine the Great did.

He is protecting the people of Russia.

More like Peter the Great who assembled the Russian Empire. Ukraine was no physical threat to Russia.

Maybe an economic threat to Putin's kleptocracy and vast STOLEN wealth.

[August1991]

Robosmith

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

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Maybe an economic threat to Putin's kleptocracy and vast STOLEN wealth.

And is this Ukrainian kleptocracy any different?

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I disagree with this Putin regime. Russia is a federation. But I have been to Crimea, and people there speak Russian.

Putin was correct to change this error of Khrushchev

Edited December 23, 2022 by August1991

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, August1991 said:

This is a civil war.

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What you Americans are doing - it's wrong.

I imagine what would happen if you Americans took sides in Canada.

 

Civil War my ass. Under what authority is Ukraine sovereign territory of Russia?

[Greg]

17 hours ago, Rebound said:

You’re a Russian plant.

Is that a joke?

August has been around here nearly as long as me.

@Rebound lets cut that type of talk out.

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, Greg said:

Is that a joke?

August has been around here nearly as long as me.

@Rebound lets cut that type of talk out.

Well, the Manchurian Candidate was around a long time, too. August states that the Russian Federation still exists, and that Russia is legally authorized to invade the sovereign nation of Ukraine. Most of the people living in Russia don’t even agree with that, and the Ukrainians certainly don’t. 

Fact is, there are a lot of Russian government plants on the Internet and this man fits the profile. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Well, the Manchurian Candidate was around a long time, too.  

That was a fictional movie.

[robosmith]

17 hours ago, August1991 said:

Robosmith

And is this Ukrainian kleptocracy any different?

Who in today's Ukraine's government has gotten rich from their official service? 

Any theft by Ukrainian officials in the PAST does not excuse Putin's kleptocracy. 

17 hours ago, August1991 said:

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I disagree with this Putin regime. Russia is a federation. But I have been to Crimea, and people there speak Russian.

So what? It's been part of Ukraine for 30 years.

17 hours ago, August1991 said:

Putin was correct to change this error of Khrushchev

Khrushchev did not make Ukraine independent. And Russia guaranteed Ukraine's security IN WRITING.

Putin BROKE that TREATY, but YOU'RE siding with a HUGE THIEF.

You sure you're not a Russian troll?

[West]

On 12/20/2022 at 11:20 AM, robosmith said:

Why is it "wrong" to help Ukraine and punish Putin for HIS unprovoked aggression?

You know he wants the huge gas reserves off the South coast FOR HIMSELF, don't you?

If Putin wins Ukraine, he won't stop there. He would have an even greater monopoly on European fossil fuels.

Yes so we must fund the war over there and allow our politicians the ability for kickbacks no questions asked

[robosmith]

Just now, West said:

Yes so we must fund the war over there and allow our politicians the ability for kickbacks no questions asked

NOT if "kickbacks" can be proven. Your OPINION is never enough to prove "kickbacks."

[West]

On 12/22/2022 at 3:58 PM, Rebound said:

You’re a Russian plant. Putin is a queer. He wears women’s clothing and lipstick.  

Strange. Why would the Russians want to put a plant on this forum? 

Are you sure you are not suffering from delusions?

[West]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

NOT if "kickbacks" can be proven. Your OPINION is never enough to prove "kickbacks."

My opinion is based in obvious observations.. only the gullible think the Democrats are on the up and up

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, West said:

My opinion is based in obvious observations.. only the gullible think the Democrats are on the up and up

You mean your biased observations, like believing Trump's LIES.

Democrats have far more respect for the truth than the pathological LIAR named Trump.

Trump is NOT a good liar, cause good liars maintain SOME credibility by NOT lying ALL THE TIME, LIKE Trump.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, West said:

Strange. Why would the Russians want to put a plant on this forum? 

Are you sure you are not suffering from delusions?

You really don't understand what Russian trolls and bots are doing on US social media.

Maybe try paying attention to pundits who have explained that MANY TIMES.

YOUR cluelessness about that explains A LOT. LMAO.